Transfer: 2025 Winter Transfer Window - Rumors and Discussion

[Savant]

Gomez did his hamstring today. LFC probably should get a CB in January. they probably won’t but they certainly should

 

[Power Man]

So here’s the thing right - let’s say Madrid let Alaba walk (or he stays/whatever), and Madrid just give Trent the Alaba contract. That shatters LFC’s wage structure. And (rightfully or wrongfully) is just a ton of money for a right back. So it’s pretty easy for Madrid and pretty tough for LFC; and that’s a pretty plausible scenario. It’s very awkward. If Trent wants to go, it’s hard to fault him - my only wish is that this is resolved asap and doesn’t drag.

yep we are gonna mess up the market lol

 

[Savant]

yep we are gonna mess up the market lol

Oh know I didn’t mean it like that. Like this isn’t Chelsea giving away six figure a week long term deals. Just saying Madrid has the salary infrastructure to accommodate a contract like that. LFC don’t.

 

[Chimaera]

Gomez did his hamstring today. LFC probably should get a CB in January. they probably won’t but they certainly should

Konate is probably back before long. Quansah needs match time. Endo can play there (shit Gravenberch looked good during the Newcastle match). If there’s a deal to do it, sure but I don’t think they’re in the market for one come summer, so they won’t do it now. Their winter moves are usually players they anticipate buying in the summer who come available now and they push it up. If they’re not in for a defender, likely not here now. Maybe a left back

 

[Power Man]

Oh know I didn’t mean it like that. Like this isn’t Chelsea giving away six figure a week long term deals. Just saying Madrid has the salary infrastructure to accommodate a contract like that. LFC don’t.

ah ok ok

 

[Savant]

Konate is probably back before long. Quansah needs match time.

Konate (thanks Endrick) will be back in January, but we are seeing now it’s a big risk to bank on Konate and Gomez staying healthy. Quansah will be fine, but it’s just them. This is a mistake we’ve made in the past, and would prefer not to again.

Endo can play there (shit Gravenberch looked good during the Newcastle match). If there’s a deal to do it, sure but I don’t think they’re in the market for one come summer, so they won’t do it now.

Gravenberch being at CB means he isn’t in midfield. This is bad. Endo being at CB means no one is covering Gravenberch. This is also bad. We pay Hughes and friends to find deals that they can do. This is something that can sink us.

Their winter moves are usually players they anticipate buying in the summer who come available now and they push it up. If they’re not in for a defender, likely not here now. Maybe a left back

Left back I think happens in the summer. We can get away with Tsimikas and Robertson. We can’t get away with Amara Nallo. I keep saying this but in 2022 Arsenal was ahead of schedule on their rebuild and they bought three guys. Some of LFC’s Best Buy’s have been in January. I can’t pretend that the January window is that hard to do deals in. It isn’t.

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

Oh know I didn’t mean it like that. Like this isn’t Chelsea giving away six figure a week long term deals. Just saying Madrid has the salary infrastructure to accommodate a contract like that. LFC don’t.

your relentless urge to bring Chelsea into everything continuously smashes up against your lack of knowledge of how Chelsea have conducted business

 

[Chimaera]

Konate (thanks Endrick) will be back in January, but we are seeing now it’s a big risk to bank on Konate and Gomez staying healthy. Quansah will be fine, but it’s just them. This is a mistake we’ve made in the past, and would prefer not to again.

Gravenberch being at CB means he isn’t in midfield. This is bad. Endo being at CB means no one is covering Gravenberch. This is also bad. We pay Hughes and friends to find deals that they can do. This is something that can sink us.

Left back I think happens in the summer. We can get away with Tsimikas and Robertson. We can’t get away with Amara Nallo. I keep saying this but in 2022 Arsenal was ahead of schedule on their rebuild and they bought three guys. Some of LFC’s Best Buy’s have been in January. I can’t pretend that the January window is that hard to do deals in. It isn’t.

I get what you’re saying. I just think they don’t rush a central defender. Especially until they know about Gomez. He was fit last season. At some point buying one makes some sense, especially with the club probably willing to see Gomez go, but I don’t know whether they see the point in buying one to sit the bench in all likelihood. If that was the case the young Dutch kid they sold would be here doing that. He was good enough to be 5th and sit. That’s the likely fortune of anyone they buy. So if they’re not buying a bang on starter as the club sees Konate as rightly the choice for 25-30+ matches, as with his country time he was on 37 last season. Sure, 24 before, but 29 when he wasn’t even the clear starter when he arrived. I get it’s probably a need, but they likely see it as a 4th-5th choice, and I don’t know if it makes much of a difference to go get that now.

 

[Savant]

your relentless urge to bring Chelsea into everything continuously smashes up against your lack of knowledge of how Chelsea have conducted business

What did I say that was wrong here? Chelsea absolutely have impacted the market but giving inflated contracts out. That’s not even a controversial statement. You are the one with the urge to bring yourself into this. I’m talking about wage structure. Chelsea have no wage structure. Which, again, is not a lie. Chelsea will give a guy a six figure p/w wage to not play him and just take him off the market.

 

[Savant]

I get what you’re saying. I just think they don’t rush a central defender. Especially until they know about Gomez. He was fit last season. At some point buying one makes some sense, especially with the club probably willing to see Gomez go, but I don’t know whether they see the point in buying one to sit the bench in all likelihood. If that was the case the young Dutch kid they sold would be here doing that. He was good enough to be 5th and sit. That’s the likely fortune of anyone they buy. So if they’re not buying a bang on starter as the club sees Konate as rightly the choice for 25-30+ matches, as with his country time he was on 37 last season. Sure, 24 before, but 29 when he wasn’t even the clear starter when he arrived. I get it’s probably a need, but they likely see it as a 4th-5th choice, and I don’t know if it makes much of a difference to go get that now.

At this point, if you are in the front office, you have to ask yourself, “What can sink this season” relying on two injury prone CBs (both of which are currently injured) with nothing behind them is one of Liverpool’s ‘Lose Conditions’ they have to protect that. You assembled this all star front office. That’s what you are paying them for; to find someone that will fit the bid. Whether that’s finding a young guy willing to learn, or finding a utility guy to cover a couple spots, or telling Joel Matip to get out off the couch, they need to do something to get another body in there. If you want to get another midfielder and use Endo as cover, they can do that too, but they can’t have another nothing window.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Still too soon. But he’s been great for boca young age

 

[Blender]

Still too soon. But he’s been great for boca young age

Maresca is apparently unhappy with the CBs we have.

Tosin and Badiashile are really inconsistent and likely just backup players. Fofana is perpetually injured. Disasi has been bad and the pass maps don't show anywhere close to what Maresca wants from his CBs, also rumors of him being sold.

Chelsea's business at CB has been the worst of all really.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Sticking a teenager who doesn’t even know the language While trying to make top 4 isn’t a genius idea tho.

 

[Epictetus]

Yes, although there’s a club option to extend another year if he hasn’t signed a longer extension (which he likely will)

That's actually some nice business for United.

Maresca is apparently unhappy with the CBs we have.

Tosin and Badiashile are really inconsistent and likely just backup players. Fofana is perpetually injured. Disasi has been bad and the pass maps don't show anywhere close to what Maresca wants from his CBs, also rumors of him being sold.

Chelsea's business at CB has been the worst of all really.

CB signings and a GK and you guys will be fighting for the title next year, imo. Your midfield and forwards are set.

 

[Peen]

Sticking a teenager who doesn’t even know the language While trying to make top 4 isn’t a genius idea tho.

Pretty excited to see what they have in Ancheampong and Anselmino.

Been obvious for a while that we need improvements at CB. And now Reece has shown there’s been zero change in his ability to stay fit and we shouldn’t have any loyalties to prioritizing his fit and place anymore.

Tosin lowest ceiling, but a more predictable floor. Disasi also a low ceiling, but a more unpredictable floor. Badiashile first 6 months will never be forgotten, but that’s a flash in the pan. Fofana injuries.

Still think long term they need that true defensive ace who is a monster aerially and in transitions when isolated because Colwill will never have those attributes, but he’s a really good #2.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Anselmino is basically Cuti/otamendi. But better passing. Hopefully he’s more cuti than Otamendi.

 

[cgf]

- Stuttgart are being linked to Brighton's Jakub Moder
- as well le Havre's Etienne Youte Kinkoue

- Hoffenheim seem to be preparing a move for Lyon's Gift Orban

- BVB's Sebastien Haller should be heading back to Utrecht
- while Aston Villa are favorites for Donyell Malen
- and Marcel Lotka is expected to make his move to Heidenheim permanent

- BMG's Nathan Ngoumou is linked to Fenerbahce
- while Galatasaray seem to be after Tomas Cvancara

Papers here saying Alexander Arnold to Madrid is done for next season on a free

And same for Jonathan Tah and FCB

Tah's been reported in germany as well. Not sure how I feel about it, could totally see Tah check out again and just enjoy life in Barca but he could also continue rising to the challenge like he has been over the past two years and be a rock for Flick.

 

[cgf]

Fans of every other club in Europe should pray that Madrid decide they can go forward with a fullback duo of Trent and Phonzie, LOL

Are they that much worse defensively than Grimaldo & Frimpong?

Vini - Jude - Mbappe
Davies - Tchou* - Valverde* - TAA
Alaba* - Rüdi - Militao

*Camavinga​

Seems pretty close to what Alonso's been doing with Leverkusen.

Wirtz - Boniface/Schick - winger
Grimaldo - Palacios* - Xhaka* - Frimpong
Hincapie - Tah - Tapsoba

*Andrich​

 

[cgf]

Camavinga will need to run a marathon every game

You'll need to reinforce/bolster the back 3, but if anyone's got the options for the double pivot to make those two wingbacks work, it's probably a team with Cama, Tchou, and Valverde.

Although maybe Xabi's adjustment to your roster will be playing all 3 of them together with just 2 CBs to cover for the 5 attackers. Some iteration of:

Vini - Jude - Mbappe
Cama - Valverde - Tchou
Davies - Rüdiger - Militao - TAA
​

with one of the 6s dropping into the backline to create a makeshift back 3 + double-6, when in possession

 

[JoVel]

- while Aston Villa are favorites for Donyell Malen

Can we do a straight swap with Maatsen? He's barely playing at Villa so they might as well give him back.

 

[cgf]

Can we do a straight swap with Maatsen? He's barely playing at Villa so they might as well give him back.

With Bensebaini finally getting his head out of his ass, Kabar having impressed enough to make the senior team, and Rothe likely to eventually get bought back from us given how well he's playing; not sure BVB sees LB as a big building site.

I'd take the money and go after another CB.

 

[Scandale du Jour]

You'll need to reinforce/bolster the back 3, but if anyone's got the options for the double pivot to make those two wingbacks work, it's probably a team with Cama, Tchou, and Valverde.

Although maybe Xabi's adjustment to your roster will be playing all 3 of them together with just 2 CBs to cover for the 5 attackers. Some iteration of:

Vini - Jude - Mbappe
Cama - Valverde - Tchou
Davies - Rüdiger - Militao - TAA
​

with one of the 6s dropping into the backline to create a makeshift back 3 + double-6, when in possession

To maximize everybody, I was thinking of something along those lines:

Vini ---Mbappé --- Rodrygo
-----------Jude----------------
----Camavinga - Valverde------
Davies----------------------TAA
---------Rudiger-Militao-------

Basically a 4-3-3 with Camavinga as a 6 and Valverde as a 8 who has to cover A LOT of ground. If TAA and Davies pull their weight defensively, it could work. Anyway, that team better score 3 a game

 

[Savant]

Under the right manager you can do Davies and Trent. Hell I think Arne Slot would love that. Davies does the wingback stuff and Trent does the inverting stuff. Would need to right personnel in front of them too though

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Half the team has zero interesting defending or pressing…

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

We are consistently being lied to, how can a player be registered for half the year. Honestly wouldn’t surprise me if they faked the Christensen injury to get Olmo registered. Combine this with the Nike deal that Barca signed weekly for a year nothing makes sense