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Yes! League leader in superfluous e's.Ryane clowe?
Yes! League leader in superfluous e's.Ryane clowe?
I fart in his general direction.And then he offers Poehling + Flyers 1st (currently 6th overall) for McTavish + Gibson as a basis for a trade.
IMO only a select few teams in the league would have interest in Zegras right now (Nashville, Philly, Boston, NYI would be my best guesses). Those teams all have one thing in common...they don't have much to offer.If we're trading Zegras it need to be packaged for a first line player. No prospects and picks
Zebras, the 9th pick and one of our D prospects should be able to get us something good for instance
If Marner is signed you can bet your bottom dollar that Zegras is moved in a separate dealI know potentially signing Marner has been beaten to death on this board, and although I think it is highly unlikely he actually signs here, the possibility made me wonder....would having an elite talent like that elevate some of our younger guys into elite status as well?
Would Marner playing alongside Gauthier turn him into a 45-50 goal player? And Carlsson into a 100 point player?
Gauthier-Carlsson-Marner
Zegras-McTavish-Sennecke
Vatrano-Strome-Terry
Killorn-Gaucher-Colangelo
A guy can dream.
That a big no on Vat-Strome-Terry. It's stale.I know potentially signing Marner has been beaten to death on this board, and although I think it is highly unlikely he actually signs here, the possibility made me wonder....would having an elite talent like that elevate some of our younger guys into elite status as well?
Would Marner playing alongside Gauthier turn him into a 45-50 goal player? And Carlsson into a 100 point player?
Gauthier-Carlsson-Marner
Zegras-McTavish-Sennecke
Vatrano-Strome-Terry
Killorn-Gaucher-Colangelo
A guy can dream.
Absolutely! I barely had a second to throw my thoughts out there, but the real point I wanted to make is that these East Coast correspondents (really most hockey commentators) treat the Ducks like some sort of feeder system for the rest of the league to poach. First, it was Z last year, and now McTavish.Couple of quotes from it:
"McTavish hasn’t quite developed into the high-end offensive threat the Ducks probably hoped he would be by this point, so they might be reluctant to match any sizable deal."
"Not only is McTavish behind Carlsson and Ryan Strome on the center depth chart, the Ducks rarely spend to the cap anyway."
And then he offers Poehling + Flyers 1st (currently 6th overall) for McTavish + Gibson as a basis for a trade.
Just a bunch of misinformed trash really.
Couple of quotes from it:
"McTavish hasn’t quite developed into the high-end offensive threat the Ducks probably hoped he would be by this point, so they might be reluctant to match any sizable deal."
"Not only is McTavish behind Carlsson and Ryan Strome on the center depth chart, the Ducks rarely spend to the cap anyway."
And then he offers Poehling + Flyers 1st (currently 6th overall) for McTavish + Gibson as a basis for a trade.
Just a bunch of misinformed trash really.
How do you know he's a 50-60 point scorer at best ? He's drafted 2 years after Zegras so he's got plenty of time still to improve. His defense is a work in progress. This also downgrades the team at Center having to move Zegras back to center where he will get out muscled, pushed around/knocked off the puck and lose 55% to 60% of faceoffs. They could move Cutter to the 2nd line to Center it but that breaks up the Cutter/Carlsson duo.If Philadelphia offers Flyers 1st 2025 (4th - 6th overall, depends how lottery goes) + Foerster + Noah Powell's rights (not signed yet) for McTavish + Gibson + 2nd round 2025 (#56) + 3rd round 2025 (#93) I definitely would do it.
I just don't like McTavish. He is what he is: 50-60 point scorer at best, defensively below average, average hockey sense, pretty good shooter, strong, but don't initiate contact that much, don't have no urgency in his game = a really good third liner or pretty average second liner.
Neal Pionk 6 year $7 mil AAV extension signed, does that mean Vilardi is more attainable ?
Ya I’m sure you’re right. No way he improves on what he is in his D+4 season…If Philadelphia offers Flyers 1st 2025 (4th - 6th overall, depends how lottery goes) + Foerster + Noah Powell's rights (not signed yet) for McTavish + Gibson + 2nd round 2025 (#56) + 3rd round 2025 (#93) I definitely would do it.
I just don't like McTavish. He is what he is: 50-60 point scorer at best, defensively below average, average hockey sense, pretty good shooter, strong, but don't initiate contact that much, don't have no urgency in his game = a really good third liner or pretty average second liner.
I agree, I think the writing is kinda on the wall….If Marner is signed you can bet your bottom dollar that Zegras is moved in a separate deal
hell, I think Zegras is probably moved even without a Marner signing
Dang they have that much cap space…. So they can sign Ehlers and Vikardi and still have 9-12 mil in cap space. Might as well take a swing at Mitch marner and be the best team in the league for the next 4-6 years.Not sure why? They have 25 mil left in cap space for next season, so they have the cap to match offer sheets unless it's a crazy contract. Pionk is also a defenseman so it doesn't affect lineup decisions. Unless Vilardi doesn't want to be in Winnipeg, or they see his injury history as too much of an issue going forward, he's most likely re-signing.
All that being said, he is the exact type of forward this team needs, and I would definitely trade for him if he became available.
I don’t see why a team with such poor depth at forward would finally get an elite player like Marner and then immediately sell off Zegras. Teams should have more than 5 good forwards if they want to make the playoffs. Moving out one and putting in a better one makes the team slightly better but having both means Killorn can finally get out of the top 6.If Marner is signed you can bet your bottom dollar that Zegras is moved in a separate deal
hell, I think Zegras is probably moved even without a Marner signing
No because Cronin will runI know potentially signing Marner has been beaten to death on this board, and although I think it is highly unlikely he actually signs here, the possibility made me wonder....would having an elite talent like that elevate some of our younger guys into elite status as well?
Would Marner playing alongside Gauthier turn him into a 45-50 goal player? And Carlsson into a 100 point player?
Gauthier-Carlsson-Marner
Zegras-McTavish-Sennecke
Vatrano-Strome-Terry
Killorn-Gaucher-Colangelo
A guy can dream.
Is it bad i actually dont hate that?No because Cronin will run
Vatrano-McTavish-Marner
Cutter-Leo-Killorn
Zegras-Strome-Terry
People that claim to be able to definitively predict the future are the last guys I’m listening to.Ya I’m sure you’re right. No way he improves on what he is in his D+4 season…
Getzlaf had 58 points in his d+4.
Perry had 44.
Terry had 13.
There's a lot of that around here.People that claim to be able to definitively predict the future are the last guys I’m listening to.
Nah, its got 2 good players on each line but also a 3rd wheel on each line. Possibly someone like O'Brien/McQueen/Bear eventually replaces Strome. In order to get Colangelo in that lineup could just demote Strome to 4th line and put Zegras at 3C with Colangelo at LW.Is it bad i actually dont hate that?