Speculation: 2025 Trade/Free Agency Thread

[Dr Johnny Fever]

If what you said does happen, he’ll go to Vegas somehow

Certainly fits the bill.

I think it will be fun to see it all play out shortly. I’m curious just how many teams have the money and a real desire to pursue him. There will definitely be enough for him to choose from.

 

[MMC]

I hope the Ducks sign Marner just because it would piss my ex girlfriend off whose first Christmas present from me was a Leafs Marner jersey

 

[Hey234]

Signing any of the big UFAs is unlikely. Trade or offer sheet are the more likely options.

Still think Mavrik Bourque would be a really good offer sheet at 4.5 mil. It would be just a 2nd round pick, and Dallas would have to make moves to keep him. He's only 23, can play center or right wing, and just scored 11 goals, 25 points in his first season. They guy seems ready to pop, fits the timeline, and is an easy gamble for just a 2nd.

 

[cheesymc]

Signing any of the big UFAs is unlikely. Trade or offer sheet are the more likely options.

Still think Mavrik Bourque would be a really good offer sheet at 4.5 mil. It would be just a 2nd round pick, and Dallas would have to make moves to keep him. He's only 23, can play center or right wing, and just scored 11 goals, 25 points in his first season. They guy seems ready to pop, fits the timeline, and is an easy gamble for just a 2nd.

I'd like it... he is small but versatile and talented. Why not, I'd prefer a ready player over a 2nd rounder that we would need years to develop... He would bring more offense than Lundy, a right shot, and already just as good on faceoffs around 46-47% so maybe he can improve in that area like Steel has.

Also, how about Isaac Howard? He's less proven and further away plus he might be too similar to Pastujov and Sidorov, but until they are proven why not load up if we can get him for a pick/prospect?

 

[Static]

Couple of trade details that I am unsure about:

The fourth round pick that goes to the rangers for trouba: From the verbiage, I cannot tell if our fourth or the Detroit fourth that we received with fabbri is the one that goes to New York.

The second round pick that we received for dumoulin: same thing; do we get the better of the second rounder between Edmonton and Winnipeg, or the worse?

Using "lower" in explaining draft pick slots is stupid and confusing.

 

[All Mighty]

Couple of trade details that I am unsure about:

The fourth round pick that goes to the rangers for trouba: From the verbiage, I cannot tell if our fourth or the Detroit fourth that we received with fabbri is the one that goes to New York.

The second round pick that we received for dumoulin: same thing; do we get the better of the second rounder between Edmonton and Winnipeg, or the worse?

Using "lower" in explaining draft pick slots is stupid and confusing.

I believe we get Edmonton’s 2nd. It looks like that will be pick #55 or #56.

 

[Gliff]

Couple of trade details that I am unsure about:

The fourth round pick that goes to the rangers for trouba: From the verbiage, I cannot tell if our fourth or the Detroit fourth that we received with fabbri is the one that goes to New York.

The second round pick that we received for dumoulin: same thing; do we get the better of the second rounder between Edmonton and Winnipeg, or the worse?

Using "lower" in explaining draft pick slots is stupid and confusing.

100% agree it is ambiguous, but typically "lower" would mean closer to the end of the draft, and "higher" is closer to the start of the draft.

So 33 would be "higher" then 52.

 

[Hey234]

I'd like it... he is small but versatile and talented. Why not, I'd prefer a ready player over a 2nd rounder that we would need years to develop... He would bring more offense than Lundy, a right shot, and already just as good on faceoffs around 46-47% so maybe he can improve in that area like Steel has.

Also, how about Isaac Howard? He's less proven and further away plus he might be too similar to Pastujov and Sidorov, but until they are proven why not load up if we can get him for a pick/prospect?

Isaac Howard is a good prospect, and it sounds like he's going back for another year in college and won't sign with Tampa Bay. He'll be a free agent so I expect Tampa to trade him probably at the draft this year. My guess is that the cost will be too high.

 

[Tony O]

Did any one else see this article from Kevin Kurz of The Athletic? Potential offer-sheet targets for the Flyers — plus 3 Flyers who might get targeted
Potential Flyers offer-sheet targets. McTavish is on his list. It might behind a pay wall. Mods, is this the right thread for discussion?

 

[Static]

Did any one else see this article from Kevin Kurz of The Athletic? Potential offer-sheet targets for the Flyers — plus 3 Flyers who might get targeted
Potential Flyers offer-sheet targets. McTavish is on his list. It might behind a pay wall. Mods, is this the right thread for discussion?

It isnt worth reading, I assure you. Some points he makes include: he is behind Ryan strome on the depth chart, so that might make him easier to not match an offer sheet, and, maybe in a trade we would be interested in Ryan poehling to replace him.

 

[cheesymc]

Isaac Howard is a good prospect, and it sounds like he's going back for another year in college and won't sign with Tampa Bay. He'll be a free agent so I expect Tampa to trade him probably at the draft this year. My guess is that the cost will be too high.

Id only be interested if the ducks can get him for like 3rd and only if he signs this offseason. Otherwise we can’t just bid for him if he makes it to free agency. Maybe ask former teammate Cutter to make pitch for us haha.

 

[JAHV]

Id only be interested if the ducks can get him for like 3rd and only if he signs this offseason. Otherwise we can’t just bid for him if he makes it to free agency. Maybe ask former teammate Cutter to make pitch for us haha.

The only thing is that there really isn't "bidding" for those guys since they're restricted to signing a standard ELC. I think maybe there can be some leeway in bonus offers, but it's not like one team can severely outbid another. It's pretty much which team offers you the best opportunity to play sooner rather than later, since that more than anything will increase his earning power. And then where does Howard want to play.

 

[cheesymc]

The only thing is that there really isn't "bidding" for those guys since they're restricted to signing a standard ELC. I think maybe there can be some leeway in bonus offers, but it's not like one team can severely outbid another. It's pretty much which team offers you the best opportunity to play sooner rather than later, since that more than anything will increase his earning power. And then where does Howard want to play.

I meant bid in terms of making the pitch or offer. The pay range will be in limited on the ELC.

Doesn’t Tampa receive a compensation pick for losing a 1st? I think they would receive the 62nd pick, so nevermind… we would have to offer at least a 2nd to obtain him. Not sure I’d offer that since his profile isn’t exactly what we need… I’m assuming the current priorities are scoring power forwards or physical RHD over left shot small scorers.

 

[Anaheim4ever]

Did any one else see this article from Kevin Kurz of The Athletic? Potential offer-sheet targets for the Flyers — plus 3 Flyers who might get targeted
Potential Flyers offer-sheet targets. McTavish is on his list. It might behind a pay wall. Mods, is this the right thread for discussion?

Ducks will just match it any offer sheet they make on McTavish if they want to go down that road.

 

[mightyquack]

Did any one else see this article from Kevin Kurz of The Athletic? Potential offer-sheet targets for the Flyers — plus 3 Flyers who might get targeted
Potential Flyers offer-sheet targets. McTavish is on his list. It might behind a pay wall. Mods, is this the right thread for discussion?

Couple of quotes from it:

"McTavish hasn’t quite developed into the high-end offensive threat the Ducks probably hoped he would be by this point, so they might be reluctant to match any sizable deal."

"Not only is McTavish behind Carlsson and Ryan Strome on the center depth chart, the Ducks rarely spend to the cap anyway."

And then he offers Poehling + Flyers 1st (currently 6th overall) for McTavish + Gibson as a basis for a trade.

Just a bunch of misinformed trash really.

 

[CrazyDuck4u]

If this admin is serious about competing. You gotta sign a big name. Marner would change the makeup of this team big time. But.. Coaching is the root causing this team to suck so.bad

 

[Hey234]

Off-season plan for the forwards: Sign Ehlers, offer sheet Mavrik Bourque, trade Strome for picks

Gauthier-Carlssson-Ehlers
Zegras-McTavish-Colangelo
Vatrano-Bourque-Terry
Nesterenko-Washe/Gaucher-Killorn

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

Who's the guy who looks like a camel but isn't Brind'Amour? Played for the sharks back in the day.

 

[Static]

Who's the guy who looks like a camel but isn't Brind'Amour? Played for the sharks back in the day.

Ryane clowe?

 

[Static]

 

[zegrassyknoll]

Id only be interested if the ducks can get him for like 3rd and only if he signs this offseason. Otherwise we can’t just bid for him if he makes it to free agency. Maybe ask former teammate Cutter to make pitch for us haha.

Build a team of primarily college players + hire Carle.

I'm only half-joking here.

 

[JAHV]

Build a team of primarily college players + hire Carle.

I'm only half-joking here.

There's no evidence that Carle would fare any better than other college coaches (a lot of whom struggled in their first NHL stint), but he seems like a great coach. I'd take a chance on him in a second.

However, that would necessitate both Verbeek firing Cronin and Carle agreeing to come to what probably seems like dumpster fire to outside observers. The chances of those things happening...

 

[FiveTacos]

There's no evidence that Carle would fare any better than other college coaches (a lot of whom struggled in their first NHL stint), but he seems like a great coach. I'd take a chance on him in a second.

However, that would necessitate both Verbeek firing Cronin and Carle agreeing to come to what probably seems like dumpster fire to outside observers. The chances of those things happening...

I think a coach who's paying attention will see upside here. He'll see not one but potentially two scoring line Cs, a good young goalie, a young 1D, and a deep prospect pool of more highly regarded youngsters.

If someone watches and thinks Cronin sucks, this becomes a prime opportunity to look good very quickly. Much more so than when Cronin was hired on the heels of an all-time awful season ... it wasn't gonna be a 1 or 2 year turnaround.

 

[JAHV]

I think a coach who's paying attention will see upside here. He'll see not one but potentially two scoring line Cs, a good young goalie, a young 1D, and a deep prospect pool of more highly regarded youngsters.

If someone watches and thinks Cronin sucks, this becomes a prime opportunity to look good very quickly. Much more so than when Cronin was hired on the heels of an all-time awful season ... it wasn't gonna be a 1 or 2 year turnaround.

I don't disagree with you, but everything I've heard on this (mainly from Friedman) is that Carle has a GREAT situation in Denver, has a young family there, and is being well compensated (although not at NHL levels). And there are multiple teams who would potentially be interested. So if he's going to make the jump, it's going to have to be a perfect situation. Even if the Ducks provide a nice mixture of challenge and rising talent, would he choose us over his current situation or another NHL job that might look a little better to him?

I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's unlikely. I would be happy if it goes down, though.

 

[FiveTacos]

I don't disagree with you, but everything I've heard on this (mainly from Friedman) is that Carle has a GREAT situation in Denver, has a young family there, and is being well compensated (although not at NHL levels). And there are multiple teams who would potentially be interested. So if he's going to make the jump, it's going to have to be a perfect situation.

To me this looks like an ideal 2nd NHL job. Where a guy maybe had some success, didn't end well, and wants to prove himself.

First jobs tend to be guys taking whatever they can get. 5th jobs are mostly old guys who like veteran teams or are just desperate.