GDT: 2025 Trade Deadline | Y’all Got Anymore of Them Trades?

[Foppa2118]

Listening to the CMac presser, he was talking about the center depth and said how solid they are now with MacK, Brock, Coyle... said Drury has been really good for them... Kelly has carved himself a role, and that Colton can slide into the middle as well.

Despite us wanting to perhaps see a 3rd line of Colton-Drury-Coyle, I tend to believe his idea is Coyle at 3C and Drury at 4C.

Of course, what CMac thinks versus what Bednar does are usually two polar opposite directions.

Option 1(what CMac is suggesting):

Colton - Coyle - Kiviranta
Kelly - Drury - O'Connor
Wood/Vesey

Option 2(what we would seem to prefer):

Colton - Drury - Coyle
Kiviranta - Kelly - O'Connor
Wood/Vesey

Now, while I think CMac may prefer option 1, Bednar might prefer option 2 especially since he has such trust in Drury and it keeps his beloved KKOC unit together on the 4th line.

We'll find out during the gameday skate tomorrow before the Leaf game.

At least, I *THINK* we'll find out. Leafs game is a 5 PM MST start, so that gameday skate will have to be pretty damn early if it happens. Players still need their nap and pre-game meal routine.

I think we could kinda see the writing on the wall for Drury to be 4C this year at least, based on how much he was playing with Kivi and how they were talking to each other when Drury was mic'd up.

I think they were trying to gauge their chemistry together as 4th liners in the playoffs. Just a guess.

 

[Valushkin]

How does immigration work for those guys? Laughton can probably play for Toronto since he’s Canadian but I assume Carlo will need his visa or something?

That only applies to the Avs. Whenever we trade for a player playing in Canada, we have to wait 20 days for him to get the visa sorted out and make his debut

 

[dahrougem2]

Do you think he can rekindle some of that earlier season form or is this current version closer to the real Kivi?

Also, if we go with your suggested lines, surely he's just keeping that spot warm for Landy come playoff time?

Landeskog - Coyle - Colton
Kelly/Kivi - Drury - O'Connor

Boom, baby.

Call me crazy..

IF Landeskog returns...

Ross Colton is who Bednar sits. I think he loves the speed, board battle wins, and PK ability of Kivi/Kelly to sit either of them and we know LOC/Drury won't sit.

 

[Foppa2118]

If Landy comes back, I think Kelly will be a pure 5C or maybe fill in on wing if Bednar prefers him over Vesey or someone.

I think he likes Kelly, but as a depth guy/role player with a healthy lineup, because he knows what he'll get from him on the 4th line. That's not really Colton's role.

Colton would have to play like shit to get scratched for Kelly to play wing IMO. Which I suppose is possible.

 

[AvalancheSpeedsters]

Really kind of surprised at some of the reaction around here. I thought it was an amazing deadline!!! A+

I think there is too much being made of adding another top-4 D on top of Lindgren that we already acquired. Having 5 guys who have the ability to play in the Top-4 is already very good for the playoffs. I know there are a lot of people who are down on Lindgren basing most of their concerns off of NYR fans and their gripe with the guy. It's important to understand that their unhappiness with the player is based on how good he used to be for them - in comparison to how good he was before we traded for him. Even with all their complaining, Lindgren was still playing a Top-3D role in terms of minutes on a team that's a borderline playoff team right now. Pretty sure if needed, he'd be able to fill-in as a #4D on the Avs.

Malinski has shown the ability to be able to play quality minutes when he's NOT paired with deHaan or Middleton. Bringing in EJ as an insurance policy isn't bad either and when we're talking about that 6th d-man in the playoffs - they can shelter and give him less minutes than the other 5.

Getting the top center available in Brock Nelson was absolutely huge. He's going to slot in perfectly and we can finally stop cringing when the 2nd line goes out on the ice. I see people complain about the cost - I don't get it. I mean, I understand it was a high cost but how do you think winnipeg are feeling right now??? They didn't want to trade Yager + a 1st rounder to get Nelson so Namestnikov is their #2C for the playoffs. Not only did we get Brock Nelson but we also prevented our competitors from getting him and improving their own teams. If they had paid the price and we decided it was too high of a price to pay - we'd be here with a bad fit in Mittelstadt as our #2C and we'd be 'hoping for the best'.

My favourite trade of the day was getting Coyle for Mitts. I think there's a potential for Mitts to turn it around and start producing again with the Bruins but the fact that we were able to swap him out for a player who in my opinion is an above average #3C/borderline #2C was fantastic. I don't care that it cost a late 2nd and Zellers on top of Mitts to get it done. The reality of the situation is that IF Mitts wasn't able to turn it around at all for the rest of this season + playoffs then the Avs would have been stuck with a guy making $5.75M for 2 more years that they'd want to get off the roster but no one in the league wants. I think it was the right move to from him for that reason alone.

For all the people who say stuff like "Ughhh Byram for Coyle" what a terrible turn of events!!! Congrats to the sabres if they won the trade - I guess that's the only thing they've won in a long, long time. Byram is looking at a big contract - the Sabres apparently want to trade him - and he's not winning any Norris trophies anytime soon. So whatever. You win some and you lose some - at least C-Mac did what was necessary to cut bait and get us a player who is going to fit that #3C slot SO MUCH BETTER than if we had kept Mitts.

Not sure people realize that Coyle was the Bruins highest scoring C last season with 60 points and had seasons of 45 and 44 points the 2 years prior to that. I think that when the Bruins signed Elias Lindholm to that crazy contract last summer - it really screwed up that team in more ways than one.

I've seen people suggest that Coyle may start at #3RW but I think that would be a mistake. I love Jack Drury and his versatility but I think that Coyle is better than him at this point. Besides, putting Coyle as the defacto #3C has the trickle effect of having a NEW #4C who is a great two-way player that's strong on faceoffs in Jack Drury!

Lehkonen-MacKinnon-Necas
Drouin-Nelson-Nichushkin
Colton-Coyle-O'Connor
Kelly-Drury-Kiviranta/Wood/Vesey

Would be my lines starting tomorrow night. I think O'Connor deserves to play more than he has and should be given a chance away from Chinstrap.

Go big or go home and Avs management did it

 

[MonsterMack]

I don't have the ability to write paragraphs when a few sentences will do.
We are a better team now than before the Rantanen trade.
We paid too much, but we are all in.

LET'S f***ING GO!

 

[MacKaRtin]

Really kind of surprised at some of the reaction around here. I thought it was an amazing deadline!!! A+

I think there is too much being made of adding another top-4 D on top of Lindgren that we already acquired. Having 5 guys who have the ability to play in the Top-4 is already very good for the playoffs. I know there are a lot of people who are down on Lindgren basing most of their concerns off of NYR fans and their gripe with the guy. It's important to understand that their unhappiness with the player is based on how good he used to be for them - in comparison to how good he was before we traded for him. Even with all their complaining, Lindgren was still playing a Top-3D role in terms of minutes on a team that's a borderline playoff team right now. Pretty sure if needed, he'd be able to fill-in as a #4D on the Avs.

Malinski has shown the ability to be able to play quality minutes when he's NOT paired with deHaan or Middleton. Bringing in EJ as an insurance policy isn't bad either and when we're talking about that 6th d-man in the playoffs - they can shelter and give him less minutes than the other 5.

Getting the top center available in Brock Nelson was absolutely huge. He's going to slot in perfectly and we can finally stop cringing when the 2nd line goes out on the ice. I see people complain about the cost - I don't get it. I mean, I understand it was a high cost but how do you think winnipeg are feeling right now??? They didn't want to trade Yager + a 1st rounder to get Nelson so Namestnikov is their #2C for the playoffs. Not only did we get Brock Nelson but we also prevented our competitors from getting him and improving their own teams. If they had paid the price and we decided it was too high of a price to pay - we'd be here with a bad fit in Mittelstadt as our #2C and we'd be 'hoping for the best'.

My favourite trade of the day was getting Coyle for Mitts. I think there's a potential for Mitts to turn it around and start producing again with the Bruins but the fact that we were able to swap him out for a player who in my opinion is an above average #3C/borderline #2C was fantastic. I don't care that it cost a late 2nd and Zellers on top of Mitts to get it done. The reality of the situation is that IF Mitts wasn't able to turn it around at all for the rest of this season + playoffs then the Avs would have been stuck with a guy making $5.75M for 2 more years that they'd want to get off the roster but no one in the league wants. I think it was the right move to from him for that reason alone.

For all the people who say stuff like "Ughhh Byram for Coyle" what a terrible turn of events!!! Congrats to the sabres if they won the trade - I guess that's the only thing they've won in a long, long time. Byram is looking at a big contract - the Sabres apparently want to trade him - and he's not winning any Norris trophies anytime soon. So whatever. You win some and you lose some - at least C-Mac did what was necessary to cut bait and get us a player who is going to fit that #3C slot SO MUCH BETTER than if we had kept Mitts.

Not sure people realize that Coyle was the Bruins highest scoring C last season with 60 points and had seasons of 45 and 44 points the 2 years prior to that. I think that when the Bruins signed Elias Lindholm to that crazy contract last summer - it really screwed up that team in more ways than one.

I've seen people suggest that Coyle may start at #3RW but I think that would be a mistake. I love Jack Drury and his versatility but I think that Coyle is better than him at this point. Besides, putting Coyle as the defacto #3C has the trickle effect of having a NEW #4C who is a great two-way player that's strong on faceoffs in Jack Drury!

Lehkonen-MacKinnon-Necas
Drouin-Nelson-Nichushkin
Colton-Coyle-O'Connor
Kelly-Drury-Kiviranta/Wood/Vesey

Would be my lines starting tomorrow night. I think O'Connor deserves to play more than he has and should be given a chance away from Chinstrap.

All this is well and good, but didn't get Crosby and Sean Jones, so F-

 

[The Pwnerer]

I applaud Cmac for going all out this year. He deserves GM of the year if we can make a big run.

Its a damn shame how strong the West got over the past few years. It's absolutely frightening that our 1st round match up should be a conference final one and there's a potential all the work he has done can end in a round. Reminds me of the Tampa-Florida matchups we've been seeing.

With that said, let's hope the team round into form these last 20 games. Team chemistry is going to be a big issues. A lot of new faces and we need to build chemistry and momentum quickly. Give us shades of 2022. I want them to absolutely destroy teams from here on out.

Also an added FU to Rantanen and Mitts. Mitts value must've tanked horribly over the past few months. As for Rants, lot to unpack there. Just overall sad to see how it played out.

 

[LOFIN]

Explains why the Leafs were apparently also in for Rantanen, not just as a rental but willing to sign him to a long term deal

 

[Gumballhead]

I’m not sure what’s the point of this. Just because the 22 roster was better than the current one, doesn’t mean that the current one can’t win it.

I mean the 2001 cup roster was better than the 2022 roster. If that’s not what you were trying to say, I apologize

Also, who wants to take every other team likely to be in the playoffs and compare all their current players to their best recent team? It has to be pretty agonizing for some of y'all to be sports fans if these are the things you think about and want to talk about when your team has clearly upgraded in ways none of us would have dared to predict.

To me, we went from a team before camp that I had no idea how to gauge, with better bottom 6 depth with more proven actual NHL players but many more questions, starting with shaky and possibly catastrophic netminding (turned out to be the latter), a grab bag of misfit toys for the bottom D pairing and 7th guy, no clarity or real reason to be hopeful about Nuke, and similar things for Landy. All of these things have been aggressively addressed. Would it have been nice to make one more D pickup? Sure. But EJ isn't nothing, even if he has to play sheltered minutes when he gets in. I'm pumped about this team now.

 

[Andrew Wiggin]

Is it bad that the thing I am most worried about now is the coaching In game adjustments, line combos/consistency/chemisty, power play, etc. If we dont make at least the conference finals would Bednar be on the hot seat? Would CMac?

 

[Bone Breaker]

Cmac did all he could do and then some. Bednar has already fallen short in the previous seasons, if he cant make the finals again after all this roster shakeup, he should be out, imo.

 

[AvsCOL]

I’ll die on this hill, but I think Rantanen actually hurt the PP. He was the most stagnant player out there, and the powerplay was way too predictable. My argument isn’t that Necas is better than Rantanen, but the Avs are better with Necas vs. Rantanen.

 

[LOFIN]

I’ll die on this hill, but I think Rantanen actually hurt the PP. He was the most stagnant player out there, and the powerplay was way too predictable. My argument isn’t that Necas is better than Rantanen, but the Avs are better with Necas vs. Rantanen.

I think it's not exactly fair to put the blame on Rantanen on that one. It's easy to say now that they are better, because they had to change it up and lo an behold, it actually works. They should've been able to mix it up even with Rantanen, they had been one of the best powerplays in the league for many years with him.

To me, it's a coaching issue. And they just got an out for it, because the whole thing had to change because Rantanen was such a big part of it. It's masking the real issue. We just have to hope that the current makeup doesn't stagnate too soon, because apparently our coaches have no idea how to fix it.

 

[lionsDen]

I haven’t commented on rantenen, dude got exactly what the avs offered a bit more. To play on a rival. Dudes dead to me

 

[Andrew Wiggin]

I think it's not exactly fair to put the blame on Rantanen on that one. It's easy to say now that they are better, because they had to change it up and lo an behold, it actually works. They should've been able to mix it up even with Rantanen, they had been one of the best powerplays in the league for many years with him.

To me, it's a coaching issue. And they just got an out for it, because the whole thing had to change because Rantanen was such a big part of it. It's masking the real issue. We just have to hope that the current makeup doesn't stagnate too soon, because apparently our coaches have no idea how to fix it.

I know how to fix it, it happened in the sharks game. Win every face off Makar across, Necas one timer, score

 

[AvsMakar08]

Cmac did all he could do and then some. Bednar has already fallen short in the previous seasons, if he cant make the finals again after all this roster shakeup, he should be out, imo.

Yep, we can finally call Avs contenders. Who would have known.

 

[missionAvs]

We needed a center though. Where would Marchand fit with all the wingers we have?

That's where Sam Malinski comes in.

 

[expatriatedtexan]

I haven’t commented on rantenen, dude got exactly what the avs offered a bit more. To play on a rival. Dudes dead to me

Oh shit... I think I quoted your wrong post? Did you just delete one?

 

[NorthernAvsFan]

I’ll die on this hill, but I think Rantanen actually hurt the PP. He was the most stagnant player out there, and the powerplay was way too predictable. My argument isn’t that Necas is better than Rantanen, but the Avs are better with Necas vs. Rantanen.

Necas is definitely more noticeable throughout games.

He doesn’t have the gift Moose does to just create goals out of thin air though.

We also need to see what Necas does in the playoffs. It’s been a good trade overall. The Avs seem no worse off and are certainly a much deeper team than they were to start the year.

 

[Avs9296]

I’ll die on this hill, but I think Rantanen actually hurt the PP. He was the most stagnant player out there, and the powerplay was way too predictable. My argument isn’t that Necas is better than Rantanen, but the Avs are better with Necas vs. Rantanen.

Teams had started figuring out that if you pressure Rantanen on the half wall, he'll either bobble the pass off the boards or he'll force a pass into the middle of the ice that isn't there.

His stick handling off the wall became a problem for some reason, mostly because he wouldn't move his feet and he planted himself further and further away from the net and closer to the boards.

Of course if you give him a one time opportunity he was going to bury it most likely. It became predictable tho.

 

[dahrougem2]

Oh I absolutely believe Mikko was the biggest reason for the PP failing.

Just go back and watch games with him here this season. Teams would overload MacKinnon entirely, they would dare the Avs to give the puck to Rantanen and he would fumble it or make a poor pass.

Now, MacKinnon/Makar refusing to shoot is definitely another reason for it struggling but teams figured out if you leave Mikko alone, he'd likely do something bad with the puck.

Not the case anymore because Necas and MacKinnon are flying around. Mikko wasn't willing to move from his one-time position.

 

[Pokecheque]

I’ll die on this hill, but I think Rantanen actually hurt the PP. He was the most stagnant player out there, and the powerplay was way too predictable. My argument isn’t that Necas is better than Rantanen, but the Avs are better with Necas vs. Rantanen.

I think you’re right. He was totally immobile out there on the right side…makes me think his overall struggles this season in COL and CAR might be health-related. Not trying to make excuses but I found it odd that he just didn’t seem to be moving right this season.

 

[LTCPain75]

Big Moose is the enemy now. Screw'em

 

[Pokecheque]

I think it's not exactly fair to put the blame on Rantanen on that one. It's easy to say now that they are better, because they had to change it up and lo an behold, it actually works. They should've been able to mix it up even with Rantanen, they had been one of the best powerplays in the league for many years with him.

To me, it's a coaching issue. And they just got an out for it, because the whole thing had to change because Rantanen was such a big part of it. It's masking the real issue. We just have to hope that the current makeup doesn't stagnate too soon, because apparently our coaches have no idea how to fix it.

Coaching was part of the issue to be fair but yes, Mikko turning into a Mario Tanooki statue on the power play this year played a big part in those struggles.