FSL KINGS
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Speculation: 2025 TDL Discussion
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RayMartyniukTotems
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At this point, I wouldn't be all that surprised if they do end up trading Clarke instead of Spence.
It seems the coaching staff really likes Spence and when you think about it - it kinda makes sense why this organization would end up choosing Spence over Clarke (despite how insane that concept might be to many of us).
Spence is solid defensively, generally responsible in his own end. Yet he's also a decent puck mover and can provide some offense. Not too flashy/risky, but still able to contribute. Yep, I'd say that fits this Kings organization.
Clarke on the other hand can be a very high risk, high reward player with the creativity he brings. That same creativity is why he has a much higher ceiling (And why trading him would probably be a HUGE mistake). But it's also generally not a fit for this Kings organization and we've seen that time and time again. Clarke also has much more value on the trade market.
It's very clear right now that one player is a good organizational fit while the other might not be.
FWIW, I still think they should keep both - Even if it means they aren't able to add a big name at the TDL.
It seems the coaching staff really likes Spence and when you think about it - it kinda makes sense why this organization would end up choosing Spence over Clarke (despite how insane that concept might be to many of us).
Spence is solid defensively, generally responsible in his own end. Yet he's also a decent puck mover and can provide some offense. Not too flashy/risky, but still able to contribute. Yep, I'd say that fits this Kings organization.
Clarke on the other hand can be a very high risk, high reward player with the creativity he brings. That same creativity is why he has a much higher ceiling (And why trading him would probably be a HUGE mistake). But it's also generally not a fit for this Kings organization and we've seen that time and time again. Clarke also has much more value on the trade market.
It's very clear right now that one player is a good organizational fit while the other might not be.
FWIW, I still think they should keep both - Even if it means they aren't able to add a big name at the TDL.
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have to be alot more than Savard, alot more than right handed Edmundson and a ufa on top of that. Have to worth it,as Spence is getting better and better and would thrive even more in a different system.
What would you guys be willing to give up for Jordan Kyrou?? (if he's available of course)
That might be my dream deadline add at the moment. I imagine the Blues would be asking for Clarke or Byfield but maybe there's a way to pull it off without including either?
A 1st round pick, Moore, and Spence feels like it probably wouldn't be enough? Adding Greentree to that package feels like it would be too much though. But honestly, I'd maybe be okay with including Greentree if it meant adding a player like Kyrou. Greentree might end up being a sick player but Kyrou is a sure-fire star forward in his prime who already has multiple 30 goal, 70 point seasons.
If the Blues needed a center back, would it be crazy to send Danault the other way instead of Moore? Kyrou can play center so maybe losing Danault wouldn't hurt too bad?
Would LOVE if they could somehow find a way to pull it off.
Fiala - Byfield - Kempe
Laferriere - Kopitar - Kyrou
Turcotte - Danault - Foegele
Jeannot - Thomas - Lewis
OR
Fiala - Byfield - Kempe
Foegele - Kyrou - Laferriere
Moore - Kopitar - Turcotte
Jeannot - Thomas - Lewis
Kyrou's $8.125m cap hit might be tough to fit this season but with the cap going up it'll start to look like nothing in a few years. Kyrou's ability to play center would give you some interesting options too - The Kings could use him at 1C at times if Byfield still needs more time. His play-driving ability may be great to pair with Kopitar and he would be able to slot onto PP1.
Also really like the idea of a Fiala - Byfield - Kyrou line.
That might be my dream deadline add at the moment. I imagine the Blues would be asking for Clarke or Byfield but maybe there's a way to pull it off without including either?
A 1st round pick, Moore, and Spence feels like it probably wouldn't be enough? Adding Greentree to that package feels like it would be too much though. But honestly, I'd maybe be okay with including Greentree if it meant adding a player like Kyrou. Greentree might end up being a sick player but Kyrou is a sure-fire star forward in his prime who already has multiple 30 goal, 70 point seasons.
If the Blues needed a center back, would it be crazy to send Danault the other way instead of Moore? Kyrou can play center so maybe losing Danault wouldn't hurt too bad?
Would LOVE if they could somehow find a way to pull it off.
Fiala - Byfield - Kempe
Laferriere - Kopitar - Kyrou
Turcotte - Danault - Foegele
Jeannot - Thomas - Lewis
OR
Fiala - Byfield - Kempe
Foegele - Kyrou - Laferriere
Moore - Kopitar - Turcotte
Jeannot - Thomas - Lewis
Kyrou's $8.125m cap hit might be tough to fit this season but with the cap going up it'll start to look like nothing in a few years. Kyrou's ability to play center would give you some interesting options too - The Kings could use him at 1C at times if Byfield still needs more time. His play-driving ability may be great to pair with Kopitar and he would be able to slot onto PP1.
Also really like the idea of a Fiala - Byfield - Kyrou line.
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Spence is just flat out the better player, if you need to choose between the two. Luckily we don't.
Clarke is an outstanding talent who needs to make some adjustments to become a dependable player, something virtually every young non-phenom defenseman has to experience.
Not sure why there is so much panic around him here. He has plenty of time to work out the kinks. But not acknowledging those kinks wouldn't be doing him any favors.
Ziggy Stardust
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Hi Kings fan,
As I imagine with Kopitar on the cusp of retirement, the team will be led by Byfield at C.
With all this Clarke talk, would you consider a swap with Dach to get a young C?
Maybe a bigger trade? I believe mobile LHD is a need for you.
Dach
Matheson
Clarke
Danault
As I imagine with Kopitar on the cusp of retirement, the team will be led by Byfield at C.
With all this Clarke talk, would you consider a swap with Dach to get a young C?
Maybe a bigger trade? I believe mobile LHD is a need for you.
Dach
Matheson
Clarke
Danault
Ziggy Stardust
Master Debater
Hi Kings fan,
As I imagine with Kopitar on the cusp of retirement, the team will be led by Byfield at C.
With all this Clarke talk, would you consider a swap with Dach to get a young C?
Maybe a bigger trade? I believe mobile LHD is a need for you.
Dach
Matheson
Clarke
Danault
I think the Kings would be looking at more of an impact player in return if they were to move Clarke. Dach is not it.
Lt Dan
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WTF man. There are more than one of us here. I alone have 42 different distinct personalities. 51, if we are using the metric system
KingsHockey24
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tigermask48
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Kings get older, more expensive, AND arguably worse? Oh you tease. Throw in the Kings 1st and it seems like a deal Blake would make.Jordan Spence + Akil Thomas for Ryan O'Reilly and Luke Schenn
KingsHockey24
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I think it's a safe bet that this team will be older after the deadline.
I don't expect Blake to bring in a 25 year old.
We had Luke Schenn and he didn't work out and he was like 5 years younger, yes sounds like the Kings.
We need scoring right handed winger and could of had Ryan for cash in offseason, so either they didn't want or he didn't want to come hereJordan Spence + Akil Thomas for Ryan O'Reilly and Luke Schenn
FrozenKing18
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Can we bring in Dean specifically for TDL day? Have him work his CBJ trade magic and nab Marchenko lol
If going back in past, rather have Mike Futa come back in and get his shot at Gm
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If we're looking that far back in the past, let's bring in Bruce McNall and swing a deal for Connor McDavid over the summer.
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FSL KINGS
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no interest from me. Dach has such health issues and center is not a need (even with Danault going out). I like Matheson but not at the price of Clarke.Hi Kings fan,
As I imagine with Kopitar on the cusp of retirement, the team will be led by Byfield at C.
With all this Clarke talk, would you consider a swap with Dach to get a young C?
Maybe a bigger trade? I believe mobile LHD is a need for you.
Dach
Matheson
Clarke
Danault
Lt Dan
F*** your ice cream!
You aren't seeing the potential for nicknames here
Dach like an Egyptian
Rock out with your Dach out
Dach Monkey
Ice Dachey
Dach you!
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