Speculation: 2025 TDL Discussion

[King'sPawn]

Looking at last years deadline, Toffoli went for a 2nd and a 3rd.

Not sure I'd be willing to give up that much for a depth player.

Palmeiri's older, so I would expect a little less.

If it was something like a 2026 second plus Chromiak or Booth, it's not too much of a commitment in cost, but maybe something a potential lottery team coukd make use of.

Of course, they could be outbid. I'm not committed to Palmeiri specifically, but these are depth picks for a depth player worth considering is my point.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

Mercer was pretty scrappy early on and has been pretty quiet since. Could be a good addition if he was available. A couple other right hand shots that could be reasonable are Armia and Sissons.
Forsberg and Kyrou probably not available and have big contracts but would be good on the Kings.

Kyrou would be a helluva add.....but...at what cost....26 years old, 25-35 perennial goals a year, I'd love to get him, but again, what cost, Spence and a 1st? Spence, Moore and a 1st? I think Kyrou is more talented than Moore, but you don't trade a Moore to get Kyrou...not with additinonal price tag of a 1s etc.

 

[KopitarGOAT420]

Kyrou would be a helluva add.....but...at what cost....26 years old, 25-35 perennial goals a year, I'd love to get him, but again, what cost, Spence and a 1st? Spence, Moore and a 1st? I think Kyrou is more talented than Moore, but you don't trade a Moore to get Kyrou...not with additinonal price tag of a 1s etc.

Good god that would be sweet. Kyrou is nastyyyyyyyyyy.

I might be crazy but I'd be more worried to lose Spence than a 1st round pick. Spence is still only 23 and could be a very good top 4 d man for the next 10 years. Any 2025 or 2026 1st rounder of the Kings is going to be in the 20-32 range - obviously its still a first rounder but the odds of drafting a key player in that range is pretty low.

Kyrou would also be very hard to fit under the cap. Even if you send Moore the other way you'd still need to find a way to save another $3-4m.

 

[johnjm22]

Since TMac took over Detroit they're 4-1.

Pending UFA Kane has 7 points in those 5 games.

Just sayin.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Good god that would be sweet. Kyrou is nastyyyyyyyyyy.

I might be crazy but I'd be more worried to lose Spence than a 1st round pick. Spence is still only 23 and could be a very good top 4 d man for the next 10 years. Any 2025 or 2026 1st rounder of the Kings is going to be in the 20-32 range - obviously its still a first rounder but the odds of drafting a key player in that range is pretty low.

Kyrou would also be very hard to fit under the cap. Even if you send Moore the other way you'd still need to find a way to save another $3-4m.

The bigger problem in losing Spence (or even Spence getting hurt at this point) is that there's nothing left behind him. Blake has emptied the riches to where the only standing dman is Burroughs. I can't see them moving Spence with an aging Doughty, all that would be left is Clarke.

Kings d depth chart is absolutely abysmal right now, they regularly roster a #7 and #8 that are two of the worst dmen in the NHL.

They really can't move any roster players without opening up holes at this point, that's how thing Blake has run this thing. That's why I say expect the scorched earth approach, say goodbye to Greentree, 2025 1st, 2026 1st, 2026 2nd, 2025 3rd on the way to getting a PP scorer that we should already have as well as a depth dman.

 

[KopitarGOAT420]

The bigger problem in losing Spence (or even Spence getting hurt at this point) is that there's nothing left behind him. Blake has emptied the riches to where the only standing dman is Burroughs. I can't see them moving Spence with an aging Doughty, all that would be left is Clarke.

Kings d depth chart is absolutely abysmal right now, they regularly roster a #7 and #8 that are two of the worst dmen in the NHL.

They really can't move any roster players without opening up holes at this point, that's how thing Blake has run this thing. That's why I say expect the scorched earth approach, say goodbye to Greentree, 2025 1st, 2026 1st, 2026 2nd, 2025 3rd on the way to getting a PP scorer that we should already have as well as a depth dman.

They do have Otto Salin who looks pretty promising but he's at least a couple years away.

To your point though, the cupboard is certainly pretty bare. Other than the goalie prospects we have, Greentree is really the only other prospect teams would be particularly interested in. Maybe Ziemmer or Ryan Conmy have some value?

In terms of movable roster players, I think you could certainly argue Moore could be moved without it impacting the team too much - Especially if you're moving Moore in return for an upgrade on the wing.

Am I crazy to think you can add a pretty good scoring winger for a package of Moore, 2026 1st, and another pick or two?

Or a package of Moore, 2026 1st, Ziemmer/Conmy, and another pick? That's a pretty damn good return for a team sitting outside the playoffs.

 

[chris kontos]

Mats zucarello is a rob blake kinda guy. And we already have a good relationship with bill guerin. The best.

 

[Schmooley]

Kyrou would be a helluva add.....but...at what cost....26 years old, 25-35 perennial goals a year, I'd love to get him, but again, what cost, Spence and a 1st? Spence, Moore and a 1st? I think Kyrou is more talented than Moore, but you don't trade a Moore to get Kyrou...not with additinonal price tag of a 1s etc.

Yea Kyrou would be a great addition here. He skates well and would mesh well with what Hiller is doing. Hes like a less dangerous Kempe. Yea not sure about trading Spence and Moore in the deal as you want to add to the roster to bolster for the playoffs and not subtract.
If they would trade him Im sure that means they are throwing in the towel and theyd want futures so 1st/2nd round picks, guys a little further out in development like Dvorak/Ziemer.
Not sure Id offer Greentree. I liked his game in camp and can see him joining the Kings when his season ends to get his feet wet. If they added Kyrou along with getting Doughty back thats a heck of a deadline.

 

[Bandit]

Imagine the dumbest thing Blake could do, then add a dash of Robitaille and a pinch of Bergeron and well… we’re f***ed.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

Yea Kyrou would be a great addition here. He skates well and would mesh well with what Hiller is doing. Hes like a less dangerous Kempe. Yea not sure about trading Spence and Moore in the deal as you want to add to the roster to bolster for the playoffs and not subtract.
If they would trade him Im sure that means they are throwing in the towel and theyd want futures so 1st/2nd round picks, guys a little further out in development like Dvorak/Ziemer.
Not sure Id offer Greentree. I liked his game in camp and can see him joining the Kings when his season ends to get his feet wet. If they added Kyrou along with getting Doughty back thats a heck of a deadline.

True, if STL is trading him , then definitely tossing in the towel, I don't think they are doing that, they just grabbed Fowler etc....it's nice to dream though....lol

 

[FSL KINGS]

The bigger problem in losing Spence (or even Spence getting hurt at this point) is that there's nothing left behind him. Blake has emptied the riches to where the only standing dman is Burroughs. I can't see them moving Spence with an aging Doughty, all that would be left is Clarke.

Kings d depth chart is absolutely abysmal right now, they regularly roster a #7 and #8 that are two of the worst dmen in the NHL.

They really can't move any roster players without opening up holes at this point, that's how thing Blake has run this thing. That's why I say expect the scorched earth approach, say goodbye to Greentree, 2025 1st, 2026 1st, 2026 2nd, 2025 3rd on the way to getting a PP scorer that we should already have as well as a depth dman.

Thinking they bring in a 3rd pair defender with size.

They do have Otto Salin who looks pretty promising but he's at least a couple years away.

To your point though, the cupboard is certainly pretty bare. Other than the goalie prospects we have, Greentree is really the only other prospect teams would be particularly interested in. Maybe Ziemmer or Ryan Conmy have some value?

In terms of movable roster players, I think you could certainly argue Moore could be moved without it impacting the team too much - Especially if you're moving Moore in return for an upgrade on the wing.

Am I crazy to think you can add a pretty good scoring winger for a package of Moore, 2026 1st, and another pick or two?

Or a package of Moore, 2026 1st, Ziemmer/Conmy, and another pick? That's a pretty damn good return for a team sitting outside the playoffs.

Moore might have appeal to teams like Buffalo & Ottawa since he has some term.

Mats zucarello is a rob blake kinda guy. And we already have a good relationship with bill guerin. The best.

Did he get hit with the puck in an unfortunate position recently? Has he recovered? Was that somewhere else?

 

[Lt Dan]

Imagine the dumbest thing Blake could do, then add a dash of Robitaille and a pinch of Bergeron and well… we’re f***ed.

 

[Sol]

Kings just need to give Gavrikov a normal contract but knowing the Kings 11x8

 

[chris kontos]

Thinking they bring in a 3rd pair defender with size.


Moore might have appeal to teams like Buffalo & Ottawa since he has some term.


Did he get hit with the puck in an unfortunate position recently? Has he recovered? Was that somewhere else?

Dont know mat's current status but our relations with mr guerin have been so successful in the past i figure the sky's the limit...

 

[FSL KINGS]

Dont know mat's current status but our relations with mr guerin have been so successful in the past i figure the sky's the limit...

Think he suffered a rupture? Might be on IR for a while. Don't know recovery time for that.

 

[chris kontos]

He was singing soprano for a while after that insult

 

[dman3474]

They have to decide what the plan is with Gavrikov, are they going to pay him? How much money and term?
Blake keeps pushing stuff like this off so he doesn't make a decision (Ala Roy) so not doing anything and losing him in free agency is probably the plan. If they aren't going to sign him they need to try to get him to waive his nmc and trade him.

What's going on at the center position?
Kopitar is under contract for 1 more year, then? Byfield being a true first line center is still in question, but even if he is who centers the second line? Danault is a great second/third line center but signed for only for two more years after this and is 34 at the end of his contract. There are no real center prospects in the pipeline.
I'm not saying that the center issue needs to be taken care of at the deadline, but it needs to be taken into consideration.

Righties?!
A righthand shot on the half wall for the PP would be great, just having more RH options up front in general would be great.


I don't think they are contenders but they should do something to reward the group if they keep winning games. So either something that will help for the future or small/ depth moves.

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

Points scored by themselves is only part of the story. It's a two-way game. So what are you giving up while scoring is what's most important. I don't know what the real analytics say for Fiala. But in taking his +/- (flawed as it is) and his bad penalties, it doesn't tell a good story in his favor. Goals scored don't mean that much if you cost the team MORE goals against. Again, i'm not saying Fiala does that -- just pointing out that points / goals scored alone as a stat to pump him up can be somewhat meaningless without the whole picture.

I think the outrage over his +/- this year is overblown. It’s really no different than last two years, problem is he’s not putting up points this year. Last two years, he was +1 and +2 while putting up like 72 points a season.

 

[Trash Panda]

I think the outrage over his +/- this year is overblown. It’s really no different than last two years, problem is he’s not putting up points this year. Last two years, he was +1 and +2 while putting up like 72 points a season.

And those last two years he was also a problem.

It’s just exacerbated this year.

 

[Maynard]

Think he suffered a rupture? Might be on IR for a while. Don't know recovery time for that.

He’s been back for a few games. Don’t know if he still has both grapes.

 

[All The Kings Men]

They do have Otto Salin who looks pretty promising but he's at least a couple years away.

A bird in the bush isn't worth three birds in the hand.

 

[Lt Dan]

A bird in the bush isn't worth three birds in the hand.

What if it's 70's bush?

 

[FSL KINGS]

They have to decide what the plan is with Gavrikov, are they going to pay him? How much money and term?
Blake keeps pushing stuff like this off so he doesn't make a decision (Ala Roy) so not doing anything and losing him in free agency is probably the plan. If they aren't going to sign him they need to try to get him to waive his nmc and trade him.

What's going on at the center position?
Kopitar is under contract for 1 more year, then? Byfield being a true first line center is still in question, but even if he is who centers the second line? Danault is a great second/third line center but signed for only for two more years after this and is 34 at the end of his contract. There are no real center prospects in the pipeline.
I'm not saying that the center issue needs to be taken care of at the deadline, but it needs to be taken into consideration.

Righties?!
A righthand shot on the half wall for the PP would be great, just having more RH options up front in general would be great.


I don't think they are contenders but they should do something to reward the group if they keep winning games. So either something that will help for the future or small/ depth moves.

Edmundson was brought in to play long term with Clarke. Clarke is going to be on the second pair. Edmondson may have been brought in to replace Gavrikov.

If Gavrikov walks, Blake will have plenty of cash to go after Bennett as a UFA or maybe target an RFA center with an offer sheet.

 

[Kudelski37]

If the Kings are going to make a move to try to win this year, I think a big, right shot 4th line center that is good at faceoffs and penalty killing is the best way to go. Acquiring offense is too costly and the Kings have done a horrible job of acquiring those guys that fit, see Fiala/PLD. My idea would add someone to save some miles on Kopitar and Danault during the regular season so they have more energy come April.

 

[kings11]

If the Kings are going to make a move to try to win this year, I think a big, right shot 4th line center that is good at faceoffs and penalty killing is the best way to go. Acquiring offense is too costly and the Kings have done a horrible job of acquiring those guys that fit, see Fiala/PLD. My idea would add someone to save some miles on Kopitar and Danault during the regular season so they have more energy come April.

That would be Nick Bjugstad