2025 Summer Transfer Rumors and Discussion Closed Window

[Wee Baby Seamus]

Is there an obvious centerback buy for Chelsea this summer? Needs to be a physically imposing presence like Rudiger, Konate to partner Colwill. Strong in 1 on 1s

I would guess Chelsea use the champions league to really push for a big name like Rodrygo/Nico Williams, but they’ve also been linked with Garnacho and Gittens on the wing.

Pretty happy with Delap.

Small link to Chevalier, but regardless, we need a better GK. Sanchez was actually tolerable in the second half of the season but I just find him annoying to watch and knowing that he’d pout if he was ever relegated to being #2 is annoying. Oh and still Maignan’s name linked around us as well

The annoying thing is that Fofana is kind-of a perfect partner for Colwill, he's just held together with rubber bands. His recovery pace and physicality cover Colwill's occasional propensity to over-commit defensively. Guehi is the main link right now, which I don't want simply because selling him in the first place was so obviously stupid in the moment that buying him back would just piss me off.

Neither Rodrygo nor Williams really fit the purchase profile, simply because of the wages. So I would be surprised, unless getting UCL means a strategy pivot (which it conceivably could). If we don't keep Sancho, then there is definitely a need for a right-footed winger, simply because our main AM options look like this: Palmer (leftie, and fairly one-footed), Neto (leftie, and extremely one-footed), Madueke (leftie, and extremely one-footed), Estevao (leftie, not sure about how good his weak foot is). George is right-footed, but still needs sheltered minutes IMO. Mudryk remains in limbo.

I live in fear of a Garnacho signing. Until I see him put on the kit of a club who is not us, I will live in fear of it.

Would kill for Maignan. The dropped points from Sanchez errors were brutal, even though outside of the errors his level of play was fairly high (which sounds like a silly self-contradiction, like "it was an awesome birthday except for my dog dying", but what I mean is that his regular level was an 8 but with error risk, as opposed to being consistently a 6 but with no errors, if that makes sense).

 

[S E P H]

Ah, alternative stats then.

All stats, are useful stats.

 

[S E P H]

Yes the team of Manchester United was bad. Everyone knows this. No ones arguing that. Bruno Fernandes personally was quite good this year despite the team being horrifically bad.

Bruno is far from a bad player, don't think I am calling him a bad player by any means. All I am saying is that everyone in that club had a bad season, from Sir Richard to Amirom to the bloke they fired as head chef to Bruno to Mainoo to Hojlund and everyone in between. When a club only stays up simply because they beat the three relegation clubs, that is extremely poor form.

Arsenal finished second and I don't think most of our players had good seasons for us besides Raya and Gabriel, who I feel took a major step this season. Besides those two, everyone else was below-average if you'd ask me.

 

[Jussi]

All stats, are useful stats.

How Long Since Arsenal Last Won A Trophy?

They went a long time without winning, but have had a couple of FA Cup wins in recent history to take the edge off, the last of which was a 2-1 win over Chelsea in 2017.

lastwonatrophy.co.uk

 

[S E P H]

We're talking about Man Divided here, not Arsenal. Don't change the topic because you can't cope.

 

[Jussi]

We're talking about Man Divided here, not Arsenal. Don't change the topic because you can't cope.

You said yourself that all stats are useful stats.

 

[Peen]

The annoying thing is that Fofana is kind-of a perfect partner for Colwill, he's just held together with rubber bands. His recovery pace and physicality cover Colwill's occasional propensity to over-commit defensively. Guehi is the main link right now, which I don't want simply because selling him in the first place was so obviously stupid in the moment that buying him back would just piss me off.

Neither Rodrygo nor Williams really fit the purchase profile, simply because of the wages. So I would be surprised, unless getting UCL means a strategy pivot (which it conceivably could). If we don't keep Sancho, then there is definitely a need for a right-footed winger, simply because our main AM options look like this: Palmer (leftie, and fairly one-footed), Neto (leftie, and extremely one-footed), Madueke (leftie, and extremely one-footed), Estevao (leftie, not sure about how good his weak foot is). George is right-footed, but still needs sheltered minutes IMO. Mudryk remains in limbo.

I live in fear of a Garnacho signing. Until I see him put on the kit of a club who is not us, I will live in fear of it.

Would kill for Maignan. The dropped points from Sanchez errors were brutal, even though outside of the errors his level of play was fairly high (which sounds like a silly self-contradiction, like "it was an awesome birthday except for my dog dying", but what I mean is that his regular level was an 8 but with error risk, as opposed to being consistently a 6 but with no errors, if that makes sense).

Neto was a disappointment this year but I’d be curious how his effectiveness changes with Delap.

Madueke’s the guy I’d sell I just think he’s a 17 year old even if he’s clearly talented

 

[Jovavic]

You said yourself that all stats are useful stats.

And you can cross Spurs off that list, moving Arsenal down to 9th

 

[Jussi]

And you can cross Spurs off that list, moving Arsenal down to 9th

I replaced the link with a more appropriate one after seeing it's a little old.

 

[hatterson]

- Manchester United lost 18 Premier League matches this season. That's more than Liverpool, Arsenal, and Manchester City combined (17). It's United's highest number of defeats since they recorded 20 losses and were relegated in the 1973-74 campaign.

- It was a season of many unwanted firsts for Manchester United. They completed their first-ever Premier League campaign without back-to-back wins. Their longest winless streak was eight matches, which is United's worst run in the Premier League era. They finished a lowly 15th in the table.

- Remove results against the relegated trio, and Manchester United would sit bottom of the final Premier League standings with a measly haul of 23 points from a possible 87.

- Manchester United conceded the opening goal in 31 matches across all competitions this season. That's more than any other Premier League club.

1.) Their 18 PL losses is fewer losses than Spurs, Wolves, and all 3 relegation teams which would mean it is not a relegation worthy stat.
2.) I was unaware back to back wins was a PL requirement to be allowed to stay up.
3.) So if you remove the teams who actually got relegated, United would have been relegated? uhhh, ok? But in the real world those teams exist and played in the PL.
4.) Congratulations you actually managed to find a stat where United was in the bottom 3 (tied with Wolves for 3rd worst) although you had to spoil it by referencing all comps instead of PL games.

So when you claimed they "should've been relegated by every math and analytics out there" you've managed to come up with a single stat they were (tied) bottom 3 in, although you stated it wrong and that stat is only relevant for partial games.

Good times.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

I am surprised that nobody is interested in Marcus Rashford. Well, Im not surprised because he's the under performer on a team everyone hates. On his day, he's unstoppable. He has some of the best ball control in the league.

No takers ? Even at a reduced fee ?

The issue with Rashford is his wages.

 

[bluesfan94]

The worst spot? OK.

Fortunately for him that isn’t all he does, but seeing as how he does occupy half spaces it frees up the wide attacking players.



Then I guess it’s a good thing I never said that.

Oh we're playing the semantic game again where you divorce what you say from the context of the conversation?

 

[JeffreyLFC]

As someone who has watched a ton of EPL matches over the years, Diaz is thousand times the player Rashford is. Rashford isn't bad per se, but if I were a Barca fan, I would much rather pay more for Diaz than Rashford.

I agree. I do not understand the Diaz hate from anybody. He is very similar to a right footed Raphinha which is very good for Barca.

 

[Jussi]

1.) Their 18 PL losses is fewer losses than Spurs, Wolved, and all 3 relegation teams which would mean it is not a relegation worthy stat.
2.) I was unaware back to back wins was a PL requirement to be allowed to stay up.
3.) So if you remove the teams who actually got relegated, United would have been relegated? uhhh, ok? But in the real world those teams exist and played in the PL.
4.) Congratulations you actually managed to find a stat where United was in the bottom 3 (tied with Wolves for 3rd worst) although you had to spoil it by referencing all comps instead of PL games.

So when you claimed they "should've been relegated by every math and analytics out there" you've managed to come up with a single stat they were (tied) bottom 3 in, although you stated it wrong and that stat is only relevant for partial games.

Good times.

Stop bringing actual facts into an internet discussion, with an Arsenal fan!

 

[JeffreyLFC]

Cherki done for 40M.

Cherki with Pep will either be fabulous or terrible.

 

[maclean]

A TON of news is coming out today and a lot of it from top sources like BBC, The Telegraph, Sky Sports, and The Times.


- Al-Hilal is pursuing Bruno Fernandes, but United want £80 million for him.

- Sky Sports Germany is expressing that Arsenal wants Sesko over Gyokeres (@maclean). Release clause around 80 million Euros.

- Juve, Como, AC Milan, and Napoli are going after Endrick on loan.

- Al-Nassr wants Luis Diaz.

- Nunez is talking to Al-Hilal.

- The Athletic reports that Arsenal and Gabriel M. are signing a long-term extension, which will be finalised in the upcoming days.

- Higher-tier sources confirming KFC's desire to sign Ekitike for around 100 million Euros. The Athletic backs up the price EF wants for him.

- Napoli are the favourites to sign de Bruyne after signing Jonathan David.

- Arsenal wants to sign Sane on a free to replace Sterling and finally have a backup to Saka.

- Newcastle is going after Marc Guehi and Bryan Mbeumo to beef up their UCL squad. You lot see? Man United won't be able to compete with this.

- BBC reporting that Zubimendi is undergoing a medical this week for Arsenal.

- CR7 is rumoured to be joining Wydad from Morocco's league, Monterrey from Mexico Liga MX, or a bunch of Serie A Brazilian teams. He's not coming back to Europe.

- Atleti wants Lautaro to form an attacking duo of Martinez and Alvarez.

- Luis Henrique is joining Inter from Marseille for around 26 million Euros.

- Brentford is going after Caoimhin Kelleher as Flekken is moving to Leverkusen.

- Man City are the favourites to sign Cherki as he will replace KdB.

- Sunderland is losing Jobe Bellingham to BuLi (BVB, Frankfurt, and Leipzig all after him).

- Aston Villa do not want to keep Rashford.

- Joan Garcia wants to go to Barca, made some artful comments about how he wants to beat Espanyol now lol.

- Plettenberg reporting that Bayern wants Eze or Mitoma and that Arsenal want either Rodrygo or Mitoma as well.

- Arsenal desire Leao instead of Williams. Honestly, either of them are great targets, I won't complain.

- Man United is interested in signing Mike Maignan to replace Onana. I would hate that; that would be an immense upgrade.

Sane on a free? Sounds good to me.

Leao instead of Williams? Uh, yeah, sure!

Mitoma?! Ah, OK, now I know you're playing with my heart...

 

[luiginb]

Sane on a free? Sounds good to me.

Leao instead of Williams? Uh, yeah, sure!

Mitoma?! Ah, OK, now I know you're playing with my heart...

If Arsenal get two out of these three they win the league next year.

 

[les Habs]

Oh we're playing the semantic game again where you divorce what you say from the context of the conversation?

LOL. Only one playing a game is yourself, your typical losing game at that.

@S E P H said he failed in the Premiership. I pointed out that he never played in the Premiership. Kind of hard to fail at something when you never did it. Then he went on to say that he had 8 matches in the Premiership, again something that never happened. That’s it. Now if you want to find additional context to the facts that I presented with regards to his not having played in the Premiership go right ahead.

 

[S E P H]

Sane on a free? Sounds good to me.

Leao instead of Williams? Uh, yeah, sure!

Mitoma?! Ah, OK, now I know you're playing with my heart...

Sane on a free is a great bit of business for sure if that turns out to be true.

I feel that the LW will come down to Leao, Williams, Rodrygo, or Mitoma. Clearly, the first two form a humongous gap to the other two IMO. Nico has a release clause and seems like such an easy move to get done, Leao seems to be more complicated, but someone, Berta might prefer considering we were never linked to him before Berta was hired.

Rodrygo would be a nonsense, Kai Havertz 2.0 signing. Someone who hasn't produced much of anything, is actually a right winger, and will cost way too much because he has the Real Madrid/Ferrari badges on it. He is the one I want the least personally. Mitoma is awesome, I question how high his talent is, especially when he's in the same transfer rumours as Leao and Williams, but I never question his heart on the pitch. 120% every single night and has some undervalued skills.

 

[maclean]

Sane on a free is a great bit of business for sure if that turns out to be true.

I feel that the LW will come down to Leao, Williams, Rodrygo, or Mitoma. Clearly, the first two form a humongous gap to the other two IMO. Nico has a release clause and seems like such an easy move to get done, Leao seems to be more complicated, but someone, Berta might prefer considering we were never linked to him before Berta was hired.

Rodrygo would be a nonsense, Kai Havertz 2.0 signing. Someone who hasn't produced much of anything, is actually a right winger, and will cost way too much because he has the Real Madrid/Ferrari badges on it. He is the one I want the least personally. Mitoma is awesome, I question how high his talent is, especially when he's in the same transfer rumours as Leao and Williams, but I never question his heart on the pitch. 120% every single night and has some undervalued skills.

We actually were linked to Leao previously. Maybe two summers ago? That was one of those rumours where your ears perk up and you throw all your scepticisim out the window and go full X-Files I Want To Believe.

 

[bluesfan94]

LOL. Only one playing a game is yourself, your typical losing game at that.

@S E P H said he failed in the Premiership. I pointed out that he never played in the Premiership. Kind of hard to fail at something when you never did it. Then he went on to say that he had 8 matches in the Premiership, again something that never happened. That’s it. Now if you want to find additional context to the facts that I presented with regards to his not having played in the Premiership go right ahead.

He failed in the Premier League because he was on a Premier League team and was deemed not good enough to play in the Premier League. The actual counterargument is that he was a late bloomer and has developed a lot since he was at Brighton so his past failure is not necessarily indicative of his future performance. But being bought by a Premier League team and never reaching the field is very much failing in the Premier League.

 

[Peen]

You won’t like my answer….

Spit it out

 

[S E P H]

LOL. Only one playing a game is yourself, your typical losing game at that.

@S E P H said he failed in the Premiership. I pointed out that he never played in the Premiership. Kind of hard to fail at something when you never did it. Then he went on to say that he had 8 matches in the Premiership, again something that never happened. That’s it. Now if you want to find additional context to the facts that I presented with regards to his not having played in the Premiership go right ahead.

It is true he didn't play any EPL games because he was too young at the time and was loaned out to forty different locations, but he still got eight games British football and all of them were in Carbao Cup and FA Cup matches, so it's not a huge downgrade from an EPL game.

Nonetheless, my comment was due to a bit of ignorance on my part because David Ornstein made it sound like he came to the EPL and wasn't up to standard, so Brighton shipped him out. That could very much be the truth and he figured it out as a late bloomer. I am still a bit scared of him because unloading 70 to 80 million sterling pounds for a bloke whose best seasons are in the Portuguese league is not exactly an amazing resume.

We actually were linked to Leao previously. Maybe two summers ago? That was one of those rumours where your ears perk up and you throw all your scepticisim out the window and go full X-Files I Want To Believe.

I think he was linked to us about a week IIRC, but they were horrible sources...like The Mirror or Daily Star level of sources. Quote me if I was wrong, but the club he was heavily linked to the past couple of years has been Chelsea. The Leao sources this time around are Tier II, such as The Telegraph, The Times, and Romano if you consider BBC and David Ornstein as Tier I.

He failed in the Premier League because he was on a Premier League team and was deemed not good enough to play in the Premier League. The actual counterargument is that he was a late bloomer and has developed a lot since he was at Brighton so his past failure is not necessarily indicative of his future performance. But being bought by a Premier League team and never reaching the field is very much failing in the Premier League.

The problem for Les_Habs is that Brighton is pretty damn solid at identifying talent. I suggest they would not have let him leave if they knew he was EPL quality. The other side to that is everyone makes mistakes and this could have been one for the Gulls.

 

[bluesfan94]

Would kill for Maignan. The dropped points from Sanchez errors were brutal, even though outside of the errors his level of play was fairly high (which sounds like a silly self-contradiction, like "it was an awesome birthday except for my dog dying", but what I mean is that his regular level was an 8 but with error risk, as opposed to being consistently a 6 but with no errors, if that makes sense).

Nah, this makes perfect sense to me and is one of those things you can live with when it's a field player but not when it's a goalkeeper

 

[bluesfan94]

How Long Since Arsenal Last Won A Trophy?

They went a long time without winning, but have had a couple of FA Cup wins in recent history to take the edge off, the last of which was a 2-1 win over Chelsea in 2017.

lastwonatrophy.co.uk

An incorrect stat with a typo. Fitting for a United fan