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Good lord, I don't think I've seen a post treat humans more like robots.
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- you can’t saying you are leaving to join a successful team if you are leaving a successful team
- there is zero evidence that Trent had any problems with Slot.
I don't even know what point you're trying to make here. We're having a conversation here; what does a media source have to do with anything?
It’s simple. No one is talking about “when is booing okay” that is not the lens that this is being discussed or viewed through. You are saying ‘not all booing is created equal’. Therefore you are moving the goal posts. Everything relevant to the Trent situation has been “is booing bad”. No one is talking about a metric for justified booing
 
Half our team is injured and we were down to 10 men and the best you could manage was a point. Good try on the troll job.
The best we could manage in a game that didn’t matter was a point. It didn’t matter so much that nobody talked about the game itself after the fact.
 
Again
- you can’t saying you are leaving to join a successful team if you are leaving a successful team
- there is zero evidence that Trent had any problems with Slot.
Sure you can. Just because you were on a successful team doesn't mean you can't leave to join a successful team. Real Madrid being a successful team does not, in any way, affect Liverpool's success. Wanting to join a successful team is why he might join Real Madrid and not, say, Schalke.
It’s simple. No one is talking about “when is booing okay” that is not the lens that this is being discussed or viewed through. You are saying ‘not all booing is created equal’. Therefore you are moving the goal posts. Everything relevant to the Trent situation has been “is booing bad”. No one is talking about a metric for justified booing
Can you show me a serious media article that says booing Trent is okay because other clubs' fans have booed players for completely different reasons?

The general discussion in the media, at least in my eyes, is whether booing Trent is right given the circumstances. Here's an example: Trent Alexander-Arnold and Liverpool fans: A sensible conversation about booing

Notice how the article discusses the circumstances:
in his first match since he confirmed he was leaving the club at the end of the season on a free transfer
Because the bottom line is Liverpool are losing a top-quality player, a local player, who everybody thought was going to become the club captain, and he’s going for nothing
show players that when they make a decision that involves leaving their club you do potentially stand to lose something

So, saying "what about this other time someone was booed for something completely different" and completely ignoring the circumstances is actually where the goalposts are being moved. In any event, I like to believe that we are capable of having our own conversations here, but understand if you need to have something in the media to be capable of forming your own opinions.
 
Sure you can. Just because you were on a successful team doesn't mean you can't leave to join a successful team. Real Madrid being a successful team does not, in any way, affect Liverpool's success. Wanting to join a successful team is why he might join Real Madrid and not, say, Schalke.
I think that's fair, but also think its a bit disingenuous (from Trent, not you). Especially from a player who was in a leadership position. Especially from a player who everything that came out of his mouth was saying how he wanted to stay, wanted to be a Gerrard figure, etc. One can even make the argument now that LFC is better than Madrid; heck LFC beat Madrid this year (but I guess anyone can beat Madrid this year :) ). I think what makes Trent's departure very different is that with a lot of LFC's high profile exits, they left when the team was bad. Trent is the only one that is leaving (that they wanted to stay especially) when the team is at the height of its powers.
Can you show me a serious media article that says booing Trent is okay because other clubs' fans have booed players for completely different reasons?
No but that's also not the point I am trying to make. Its human nature to boo. Its not unexpected. I have never been a sporting event where there was no booing.
The general discussion in the media, at least in my eyes, is whether booing Trent is right given the circumstances. Here's an example: Trent Alexander-Arnold and Liverpool fans: A sensible conversation about booing

Notice how the article discusses the circumstances:
Can't read due to paywall - which is probably why I hadn't seen this :)
So, saying "what about this other time someone was booed for something completely different" and completely ignoring the circumstances is actually where the goalposts are being moved. In any event, I like to believe that we are capable of having our own conversations here, but understand if you need to have something in the media to be capable of forming your own opinions.
I already said my opinion on this. Just used the media because the discourse that I have seen is on the concept of booing as a whole.

I think if you buy a ticket and you want to boo, that comes with price of admission. Booing is a response to being unhappy. I don't think the LFC fans are wrong to be unhappy with how Trent left.
 
For the record. I have seen so many good players leave LFC in my lifetime but only 3 of them I would categorize as having an effect on me other than being sad and was badly perceived by the fanbase.

I was sad that Mane or Firmino left but I respected their choice and they are still pretty much still very respected by the LFC fanbase.

I thought Wijnaldum leaving was a business decision, he wanted more money and terms so it made sense.

Henderson and Fabinho had a poor year prior so obviously it would be weird to not accept them leaving leaving although Henderson justification was a weird one. He should have said, I am going to Saudi for the money and that would have been enough.

Suarez was always pretty straightforward that he wanted to go to Spain and he signed a new deal accordingly to that. So no hard feeling.

Coutinho was a weird one because he issued a late transfer request when Barcelona became interested. The club refused to sell him unless they had a replacement lineup up so he stayed, fair play to Coutinho he stayed in form and although admitting he was sad about it he continued to play for the club and did very well until he was eventually sold.

The three names that I find a bit disrespectful, Sterling, Torres and TAA.

Sterling to be fair, he was very outspoken about wanting to leave and he refused all contract renewal request + handed out a transfer request + skipping pre season training. He was direct about his intention, he wanted out and wanted to go to City. He was obviously later on booed by the fanbase. It was a bit disrespectful but he was honest about his intention the whole time.

Fernando Torres. His transfer request came in as a huge surprise and he was a fan favorite and selfishly I was angry of him leaving but over time I realised and accepted his reasons for wanting out. Nothing to do with LFC as a whole but the ambition of the ownership group and the direction of the club.

Now TAA, I cannot respect how he handled the whole thing. Voluntarely letting his contract running out. All his interviews over the years about his love for the club. Not addressing the media or the fan about his desire to leave until the last few games of the season. Hard to accept or understand all his contradiction thought and explanatuons and in the end, how he conducted himself to make sure Real Madrid would get the best deal out of it. IMO as soon as Klopp left he should have addressed his desire in wanting a new experience and let the club decide if they wanted to sell him or let him run out his contract. That would have been a shock and he would have received hate but I think the fanbase would have relunctantly accepted his decision to move on. He could even have got a proper farewell if the Club decide he would be better that he leaves on a free. Obviously, fans would still be sad and unhappy about him leaving but he would have been honest with the fanbase and not unlike the other names I listed the fans would celebrate more his legacy than the whole way he left the club.
 
It’s a one horse race if Madrid is involved. This was always going to get settled quick with the release clause. Think we could see LFC pivot to Hato
A couple of weeks ago Madrid didn’t have money for cbs. Today with the rapist news boom they’re steps away from getting a new CB. Could they be related maybe?

I wouldn’t get hung up on a player anyway. Plenty of options.
 
A couple of weeks ago Madrid didn’t have money for cbs. Today with the rapist news boom they’re steps away from getting a new CB. Could they be related maybe?

I wouldn’t get hung up on a player anyway. Plenty of options.
Obviously they are.

I also have a feeling that Real Madrid are way poorer than they let it known to the public.

I think they jumped in on Huijsen because he is a cheap alternative to other CB.
 
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Obviously they are.

I also have a feeling that Real Madrid are way poorer than they let it known to the public.

I think they jumped in on Huijsen because he is a cheap alternative to other CB.
Oh they’re very poor they just know how to hide it. Carlo exist was negotiate by a friendly.
 
Obviously they are.

I also have a feeling that Real Madrid are way poorer than they let it known to the public.

I think they jumped in on Huijsen because he is a cheap alternative to other CB.
They had a botched Bernabeu sponsorship, the stadium was also supposed to hold many more events. They definitely lost a massive amount of expected money somewhere along the line. That being said selling Rodrygo would probably pay for this.
 
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Obviously they are.

I also have a feeling that Real Madrid are way poorer than they let it known to the public.

I think they jumped in on Huijsen because he is a cheap alternative to other CB.
We might be able to cook the books to not show stadium upgrades and get a bigger cap in La Liga, but we still had to spend the money so, yeah, cash flow is not the best.
 
Keep in mind Mbappe said he'd never leave PSG for free and made a promise to NAK.
That throughout the year, he kept making waves about different things (the roster, blaming others, whining about missed passes...).
 
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Keep in mind Mbappe said he'd never leave PSG for free and made a promise to NAK.
That throughout the year, he kept making waves about different things (the roster, blaming others, whining about missed passes...).
Yeah but he’s a bitch so it’s ok
 
Yeah but he’s a bitch so it’s ok
I mean Mbappe IS arrogant. That doesn't make him a bad guy.
I am personally much more furious about his behaviour during his "stay away from NT to heal injuries while going on a trip to Sweden to bang some hookers and still play for Real injured in Lille".
Probably because I'm a NT fan and not a PSG fan. But that bugs me every single time.
 
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I mean Mbappe IS arrogant. That doesn't make him a bad guy.
I am personally much more furious about his behaviour during his "stay away from NT to heal injuries while going on a trip to Sweden to bang some hookers and still play for Real injured in Lille".
Probably because I'm a NT fan and not a PSG fan. But that bugs me every single time.
The bitch here is NAK
 
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