Do you think Byram will only get 6 mil. when Chychrun just got 9 mil.? I guess the big difference was Chychrun could have become a free agent which changes things.
Speculation: 2025 RFA Class and offer sheets
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Scintillating10
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This is my target for the Hawks. Max 2nd round for a year and idk if they can match.
Ledge And Dairy
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I think he will be the target of quite a few teams tbh. Philly and Calgary make a lot of sense as well
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Buffalo will be over what I'd prefer having allocated for D&G. Hes not on PP 1.
I do think Power or Byram gets traded before thf start of the 27/28 season. Byram isnt a UFA until 2027. Sabres have 2 yrs of team control. So they could sign him yuuu o something shorter like 3 yrs.
My cap allocation is either...
.1. 4/7 for 14F ( if as team goes 13_8/2 then you count 8D in this). 3/7 for D/G. In a 94.5 cap, 40.5 us for D/G.
Right now then are 5D/1G for $32.7M. If back up G and is around 1.3M, that's $34M. They then have byram as nd another D spot to fill.
2. The other method is 9F/5D/1G make io p most of the roster cap. Thrn other 8 players are low contracts at around $11M combined. The 9/5/1 are equally distributed do its 60/40 on F/D&G
If buffalo signs Byram. It will handcuff them on offer sheets.
FiveTacos
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Regardless of where the exact tiers fall, ultimately the problem with offer sheets is the same as always ...
A guy where you figure "oh yeah he's easily worth giving up those picks for," is not worth letting go for that same compensation unless the team is cap strapped and has no choice.
Now, if the team has cap space, then the only way to get them not to match is to offer up an AAV so high that the compensation IS worth considering, or that the salary is so absurd that they don't think the player is worth it. If you're thinking in a few years with the cap rising the salary will be back to market value, then guess what, so will the other team.
I mean sure, you could offer superstar 1C money for a 2C, or 1D money for a 2/3D, and it won't get matched because it will essentially be an albatross deal for 7 years, but do you really want to do that?
A young guy with not much in career earnings to date should take long term security if it's possible. No guarantees they don't get hurt, or regress. That future big deal may never materialize.
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Emperor Joe Thornton
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I suspect any offer sheet he signed would take him straight to UFA, so I think that'd be a 4 year/$4.58M contract if a team like SJ doesn't want to offer up their 1st.
Whether NYR matches probably depends on how they view K'Andre Miller, which I don't have much insight on.
gdsmack267
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I think really solid chance Dubas does the $4.5 million offer sheet for a 2026 2nd round pick since they 3 picks in the 2nd round
Billdo
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lol devils aren't going to sign Rossi to 9-10 per year and lose four 1st. anything less and wild match. The reason wild haven't signed him is they aren't willing to pay him more than the 8 mil Matt Boldy is earning
GMs aren't against offer sheets on principle, and most haven't been in the past. What they don't want to do is tender an offer sheet to a player, have him sign it, and then have the team match and hold a grudge against you. That Sword of Damocles hanging over your head, when you didn't even get the player, is not something you need. Do it, and now you're going to have to make doubly sure you never are vulnerable yourself. The opposing GM is going to be searching for opportunities to screw you, and probably won't help you out when you need another team to help you make something else work in future. To take on that headache, you've got to believe the other team won't match so you can get the player.
Offer sheets only make sense to GMs when the team holding the player has (A) not been deploying the player in a way the player likes, or has not given the player enough opportunity in the player's eyes. This is the first requirement, because the first thing you need to do is convince the player to sign the offer. Promising more opportunity is a powerful motivation, along with a nice pay raise and maybe the added security of middling term. Then (B), an offer sheet only makes sense if the player's current team can't comfortably match the offer sheet because it has made other moves and is essentially capped out or at its budget limit.
The rising cap does not make offer sheets more likely. It makes them less likely, because suddenly teams in the short term have lots of cap room. No one is going to be capped out this summer. Eventually, player salaries will rise along with the cap and the players and teams will reach an equilibrium. Yet right away, there is going to be a lot of cap space available to the teams. Finding teams that can't match gets pretty difficult.
So look less for teams that can't match, and more for teams that can but decide it doesn't make sense to do it. It's probably not the superstars and not the $8-$10M players to watch for, but the middle-six and top-four defense. Offer sheets can work when one team thinks more of the player, today, than does his current team. You might see a young D as a guy who can be a #3 for you today and try to poach him at a high salary based on that opinion, while the current team thinks he has promise but is still a #5. It may not be willing to go to the same number because it sees the player differently than the team trying to acquire him. Different depth charts on the two teams can also create differences of opinion as to the role this player would play for you over the period in question.
Offer sheets only make sense to GMs when the team holding the player has (A) not been deploying the player in a way the player likes, or has not given the player enough opportunity in the player's eyes. This is the first requirement, because the first thing you need to do is convince the player to sign the offer. Promising more opportunity is a powerful motivation, along with a nice pay raise and maybe the added security of middling term. Then (B), an offer sheet only makes sense if the player's current team can't comfortably match the offer sheet because it has made other moves and is essentially capped out or at its budget limit.
The rising cap does not make offer sheets more likely. It makes them less likely, because suddenly teams in the short term have lots of cap room. No one is going to be capped out this summer. Eventually, player salaries will rise along with the cap and the players and teams will reach an equilibrium. Yet right away, there is going to be a lot of cap space available to the teams. Finding teams that can't match gets pretty difficult.
So look less for teams that can't match, and more for teams that can but decide it doesn't make sense to do it. It's probably not the superstars and not the $8-$10M players to watch for, but the middle-six and top-four defense. Offer sheets can work when one team thinks more of the player, today, than does his current team. You might see a young D as a guy who can be a #3 for you today and try to poach him at a high salary based on that opinion, while the current team thinks he has promise but is still a #5. It may not be willing to go to the same number because it sees the player differently than the team trying to acquire him. Different depth charts on the two teams can also create differences of opinion as to the role this player would play for you over the period in question.
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Great work, but gotta mention/ask I'm pretty sure the 4 1sts don't have to be the next 4. You can give 4 of your 1st rounders in the next 5 years.
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I feel like Rossi is a guy that could be traded for way less than what his offersheet is going to be.
He hasn't produced well since Kaprizov went down, he only has 6 goals and 12 points in 27 games since Kaprizov got hurt. Add on the constant rumors we've been hearing for years about the Wild not being a huge fan of his and it wouldn't surprise me at all to see him get moved. Why pay him $8 million a year if you think he's just a product of Kaprizov?
You're 1000 percent right. He has struggled big time since Kaprizov went down, and he hasn't done much lately, or in a while. Wild are willing to offer him same as Boldy , but you know how it's?? With every agent, since cap went up. it's more money. Rossi has refused to sign anything less than 9 to 10 mil. Yeah, with Yirov coming over, and wild seeing him as a top C. if Rossi still holds the same belief, he's worth something he's not, I could see Wild trading him
You're wrong Big time on wild not wanting to pay him. I am a wild fan. Wild have loved Rossi big time this year and are willing to pay him, but not more than Matt Boldy. So again wrong. If the offersheet isn't 9 to 10 mil, they will match. The wild beat writer has said as much. If wild and Rossi can't reach agreement around the same money as Boldy 8 mil, Rossi will most likely be traded
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Djp
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OS contracts over 5 yrs. Its It's Its high than the AAV for comp calculations.
4 1st over 5 yrs.
I think the 1-2-3 and 1-1-2-3 can be spread over 2 yrs.
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