GDT: 2025 Playoffs - First Round

[Zeeker]

I feel bad for Nelson.

And also for us! Bye bye 2028 3rd rounder

 

[The Real JT]

Turns out that trading Rantanen and picking up Nelson weren’t great ideas for the Avs.

Brock lost himself some money. I feel badly for him but the Isles came out of this smelling like a rose.

 

[Arsenalogist24]

I feel bad for Nelson.

And also for us! Bye bye 2028 3rd rounder

We got an extra second rounder for Palmeiri though

Ah shit

 

[doublechili]

Wyatt Johnston. The importance of drafting and player development

With late 1st and 2nd round picks DAL drafted Johnston and Stankoven in the same year. Johnston is really good and they flipped Stankoven as the main piece to get Rantanen. Not bad work. Note: LATE round picks.

 

[periferal]

That. Was. Awesome.

 

[doublechili]

If COL kept Rantanen you've gotta think they had a decent chance to win the Cup this year.

Fodder for the "better to trade a guy away rather than lose him for nothing in July" discussion, no?

 

[JTToilinginToronto]

Come back home, Brock.

Not Minny.

 

[Chockey22]

Not sure I agree with the call that led to the PP goal, but still an impressive comeback for Dallas. And Brock did not have a good playoffs - surprised he didn’t score a single goal. Glad we moved on when we did; he’s not worth what Lou was going to pay him.

 

[Zeeker]

If COL kept Rantanen you've gotta think they had a decent chance to win the Cup this year.

Fodder for the "better to trade a guy away rather than lose him for nothing in July" discussion, no?

Not really in the context of the Islanders, no, but if you have a Cup contender like Colorado that might be a less black and white discussion.

 

[JTToilinginToronto]

If COL kept Rantanen you've gotta think they had a decent chance to win the Cup this year.

Fodder for the "better to trade a guy away rather than lose him for nothing in July" discussion, no?

It's okay to lose UFAs for nothing if you're contending.

It's not if you're not a contender. See Islanders 2017-18.

 

[seabass45]

If COL kept Rantanen you've gotta think they had a decent chance to win the Cup this year.

Fodder for the "better to trade a guy away rather than lose him for nothing in July" discussion, no?

Better argument for them to keep the gang together. They won a Cup already with this group and the West is pretty wide open. If he leaves it sucks but they still got a Cup. As opposed to us, who did not do that, barely made any noise in the playoffs, and werent contenders in 2018.

Still don’t know what to make of how things broke down over there.

 

[Throttle]

So the spreadsheet guy has won one playoff round in three years, this after taking over a SC winning team.

Colorado has only advanced beyond the second round once in seven years - the year they won the Cup.

 

[MJF]

I hope Nelson was only renting in Denver and didn't purchase a home.

 

[doublechili]

Not really in the context of the Islanders, no, but if you have a Cup contender like Colorado that might be a less black and white discussion.

I wasn't talking about the Isles - COL trading Rantanen away was proffered as evidence here of the right way to act. But as you said, context matters. So now COL got eliminated in round 1, and do they re-sign Nelson? If not, they traded a good prospect and a first round pick in a good draft for Rantanen's replacement, and now they might lose Nelson "for nothing", and hence they lose Ritchie and a 1st round picking for nothing.

In retrospect, maybe the right move was to keep Rantanen and try to win a Cup (the bottom line goal, right?). Worst case, they don't win a Cup and he walks, but they still have Ritchie and a 1st round pick. Best case, they win a Cup and he decides he wants to stay and they work out a contract. But now, they lost a former top 10 pick (really worthy of a #1 overall pick) - so they're basically undoing a rebuild, right?

 

[JRD76]

I wasn't talking about the Isles - COL trading Rantanen away was proffered as evidence here of the right way to act. But as you said, context matters. So now COL got eliminated in round 1, and do they re-sign Nelson? If not, they traded a good prospect and a first round pick in a good draft for Rantanen's replacement, and now they might lose Nelson "for nothing", and hence they lose Ritchie and a 1st round picking for nothing.

In retrospect, maybe the right move was to keep Rantanen and try to win a Cup (the bottom line goal, right?). Worst case, they don't win a Cup and he walks, but they still have Ritchie and a 1st round pick. Best case, they win a Cup and he decides he wants to stay and they work out a contract. But now, they lost a former top 10 pick (really worthy of a #1 overall pick) - so they're basically undoing a rebuild, right?

Are you saying Nelson was Rantanen's replacement? Nelson replaced Mittlestat. Necas replaced Rantanen.

 

[Throttle]

I wasn't talking about the Isles - COL trading Rantanen away was proffered as evidence here of the right way to act. But as you said, context matters. So now COL got eliminated in round 1, and do they re-sign Nelson? If not, they traded a good prospect and a first round pick in a good draft for Rantanen's replacement, and now they might lose Nelson "for nothing", and hence they lose Ritchie and a 1st round picking for nothing.

In retrospect, maybe the right move was to keep Rantanen and try to win a Cup (the bottom line goal, right?). Worst case, they don't win a Cup and he walks, but they still have Ritchie and a 1st round pick. Best case, they win a Cup and he decides he wants to stay and they work out a contract. But now, they lost a former top 10 pick (really worthy of a #1 overall pick) - so they're basically undoing a rebuild, right?

There’s a post in the main thread that breaks down how Mcnotagenius tried to fix their 2C hole and it is beyond awful on the total assets out the door, poor on ice return/results, and still haven’t fixed it.

I remember the COL/CAR trade being referred to as a trade by two ‘great’ GMs…whoooof.

 

[doublechili]

Are you saying Nelson was Rantanen's replacement? Nelson replaced Mittlestat. Necas replaced Rantanen.

You're correct - my bad. The larger point remains though.

 

[doublechili]

There’s a post in the main thread that breaks down how Mcnotagenius tried to fix their 2C hole and it is beyond awful on the total assets out the door, poor on ice return/results, and still haven’t fixed it.

I remember the COL/CAR trade being referred to as a trade by two ‘great’ GMs…whoooof.

I've never been a Necas fan - he's very skilled and has good physical tools, but he seems to have a bit of tunnel vision.

 

[PK Cronin]

 

[Throttle]

I've never been a Necas fan - he's very skilled and has good physical tools, but he seems to have a bit of tunnel vision.

And he doesn’t have the playoff ‘it’ factor that COL just got smacked in the face with the last two games.

Colorado walked away with the worst player of the three: Rantanen, Necas, and Stankhoven.

 

[Big L]

Oooof Winnipeg

 

[Bones45]

Let’s go saint LOOOOOOOOOO

 

[Bones45]

Schiefle is a little bitch.

 

[seafoam]

Schiefle is a little bitch.

Bailey-esque? I assume if he is out for Game 7 that he cannnot physically play whatsoever.

 

[Arsenalogist24]

Cole Perfetti that was awesome. Forcing OT in game 7 with 1.6 seconds to go