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Speculation: 2025 Off-season Thread
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nvm I saw they were both top 3 in rankings for their respective teams,
no idea how they look on the eye test though but very impressed
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That’s just not true. They could have and should have traded JTC, even traded Girard to re-sign Kadri. It’s a lot easier to find a Girard replacement who wasn’t even playing when we won cup, than finding a 2C. Also we could have picked up an asset by trading JTC instead of just losing him to free agency.
If we did that Byram didn’t have to be traded for Mittlestadt. We could have just put Byram at Girard’s spot on second pair, or traded Byram for something else to improve the roster else where. Anyone trying to defend CMac is just fooling themselves. He’s done a horrible job
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Yeah, I’m not saying Coyle is the answer, but I don’t think Nelson is the answer either. It’s just that if we give Nelson who will be 34 years old next year a term and a lot of money, it’s just gonna be another set back. I rather just go with Coyle right now and see what can be done again to fix the 2C.
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I understand that and I think I'm afraid to do the same but what would be the answer? We get Landy to play #2C and we get a winger? We sign Nelson back? I have a hard time thinking that he would be excited to sign back after his play here.
I also remember the Kadri situation when alot of us said that we cannot sign a soon to be 34 years old at 7M$ with terms after having a great season on a contract year. That hurts thinking about that one today.
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I really don’t know what the answer is. CMac has really screwed the team over, but he can’t keep pouring oil on fire. Go with Coyle for now then see what else can be done to get a 2C, although I’m already hesitant to see what else CMac will do
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I'm curious to see what happens on the back end. I've never been a "trade Girard" guy, but Lindgren averaged a minute more than him in the playoffs. There might be logic to re-signing Lindgren and recouping some assets by moving Girard. Same sentiment could be said for Manson, who only has a year left on his deal.
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Great minds think alike.
We made more changes than any other contender and refused to practice.
It’s just mind boggling.
The Stars having full, mandatory practices between games 5-6 and games 6-7 while we did optional practices with 4-5 guys showing up pissed me the f*** off.
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i have a feeling if avs cant sign nelson to a short term deal e.g. 1-2 years they will just roll with Coyle as 2c and drury as 3c.
Makes sense given the cap situation anyways. Thats why THIS YEAR was the year to win because having this center depth is a pure luxury
Makes sense given the cap situation anyways. Thats why THIS YEAR was the year to win because having this center depth is a pure luxury
What are you even saying?
It is a known fact that Colorado didn't have the cap for Kadri, that is why they were trying to move EJ.
Now, you can saw that maybe Colorado should have prioritized Kadri over Manson signing, or the Avs should have looked at moving someone else (Compher or Girard as what you said).
But how do you so confidently say "that's just not true" to me saying that the Avs didn't have the cap. I'm going to need you to provide some evidence to back up this assertion.
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maybe we can just sign some decent 1year stop gaps for this year then entice mcdavid to come here next summer and form a super team.
with Coyle coming off the books next summer + girard + colton + wood + maybe even nuke or lekky gone things could interesting;
it can be done just will take some maneuvering lol nabokov as the backup, guly/behrens playing full time, decent cap hit for necas and obvs makar needs his raise
with Coyle coming off the books next summer + girard + colton + wood + maybe even nuke or lekky gone things could interesting;
it can be done just will take some maneuvering lol nabokov as the backup, guly/behrens playing full time, decent cap hit for necas and obvs makar needs his raise
Hands down, the strangest thing that occurred. Like how can the players themselves be like, "yup, we don't need to practice".
Especially with some of the current/past players in the organization. Like I just can't comprehend how Mack would let this happen, let alone how Sakic and Cogs didn't force everyone to practice.
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I meant even if they didn’t have the cap space, they could have easily traded JTC for a draft pick which would free up 3.5 mill, and also traded Girard for picks and prospects, both those moves would free up over 8 mill. Then they could re-sign Kadri. We’d still have Byram to take Girard’s spot, and we let JTC go the following year anyway. All I’m saying is, if they really wanted to, they could make the cap space to re-sign Kadri, but they made the wrong decisions which is costing this team badly right now. Mikko trade came back to haunt them now also
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Two schools of thought:
Dallas: Play top players normally, mandatory practices
Avs: Overplay top players, optional practices (because they need to rest).
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MacK didn’t practice for like the last 5 weeks of the season.
Bednar said it was MacK’s decision
“Hey Jared, f*** your practices. I will do gameday skates and nothing else.”
“Sounds good, 29! Thanks for stopping by.”
In my mind there is one card to play since we don't have assets (picks/cap/prospects/excess talent) and it's to get a new top coach. It's the only wild card.
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I still believe the Rantanen trade was the right move, and I don't think he'll live up to that contract.
If I was a Stars fan I would be quite happy with acquiring him if he never scored another point again, based purely on three games against Colorado in the playoffs. I am legitimately that petty.
If I was a Stars fan I would be quite happy with acquiring him if he never scored another point again, based purely on three games against Colorado in the playoffs. I am legitimately that petty.
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Let's hope Winnipeg beats them and Mikko only gets 1 ENG
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I don’t think that would stop people talking about how Mikko killed us in the 1st round. You know that’s gonna be the topic for at least a full year, and probably forever unless we go on to beat Dallas in the playoffs and win the cupLet's hope Winnipeg beats them and Mikko only gets 1 ENG
Let's hope Rants Co wins the conn smythe for the first time in NHL history. Duchene Rants and Pavelski (who somehow returned) share the playoff MVP honours. With 28 goals each. But Dallas still loses to the Leafs. Because clutch Marner has 29 goals. In the finals alone.Let's hope Winnipeg beats them and Mikko only gets 1 ENG
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Stars may never win the cup with Mikko, but that’s not gonna change the fact that he ended our hopes of winning it again at least for another year. Let’s see how Dallas is gonna beat us next year in the playoffs. Maybe Duchene and Mikko each scoring 20 points in 4 games to sweep us
20 points in 3 games.
Dallas doesn't even need 3 games to beat the Avs 4 tines.
It's just math.
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