Proposal: 2025 off season HC search - candidates

The coach just needs to focus on playing modern hockey and implement systems around that. We don't need to play a certain way to win games or not lose games. We need to play to their philosophy and the results should come.

Problem is the results tend to not come in short order if much of the roster is still guys just starting their career. It takes years. The old man in the rebuild is Vlasic and he's 24 next year.
 
If he loses his job, my vote is for Rick Tocchet.
Gross
Absolutely no on Torts.

Sullivan and Tocchet are good names if they are canned from their current jobs. I'd also be cool with Gallant.

Carle would be interesting, he's apparently the next big thing coaching wise, but not sure I want yet another coach new to the NHL.
only reason I would step up to bat for Carle is that his track record has lot more than what Colliton, LuRich and Derek King had as coaches.

Also feel like most of the coaches in the league now are newer faces at this point. Gone are the days where teams were racing to try and hire Claude Julien, Alain Vinauglt (sp), Bruce Boudreau and co the moment they were available.

Besides Mike Sullivan (should the pens even chose to fire him as reports are that upper management loves him) there really aren’t any proven coaches out there anymore.

Gallant and Tochett in particular both had bad tenures in previous teams and neither were great with young talent.
 
I won’t be surprised to see someone like DJ Smith be hired. He did well developing the kids into NHL hockey players in Ottawa.

Yes he couldn’t get that team into the playoffs. But the Hawks need to take several steps in development before they even talk about the playoffs. Kids love to play for a guy like DJ. I don’t think they’ll look towards a 10-15 year vet coach or older, or someone looking to take a team to contender status.
 
I didn't really see a thread but maybe there was one. Who is your pick & why? I'll start with Torts.



Tortorella has chastised players in the middle of the dressing room or even on the bench during games, and there were times the confrontations were uncomfortable. They left the rink angry with him on occasion, and they often disagreed with his coaching decisions and/or his approach. But they also were emphatic: They never witnessed Tortorella crossing the line to being verbally or physically abusive. But he will go through a "brick wall" for them.

Is he the guy to take this ship & turn it around, possibly?

Sure, just like he turned around Philly. Oh, wait.....
 
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This is going to be a frustrating coaching search. Needs to have NHL experience but not a dinosaur. Needs to have fire and a bit of asshole in him but players want to play for him. Needs a modern system but preach discipline.

Looking for a unicorn that I don’t think exists this offseason.

Too bad Bruce Boudreau is 70 and I’m guessing just done coaching at this point. Otherwise even 65 year old version of him might’ve been a good option.


But yeah, there just really aren’t that many good options unless someone unexpectedly gets fired.
 
Jeff Blashill could be an option. He was HC for Detroit during the rebuild and has learned from Cooper for the past year.


Blashill-HC
Ferschweiller (NCHC Cocah of the Year) - AC
Dean-AC
 
Agreed. To me Q has the same issue that Torts has and that is they would both bench youngsters and lean heavily on the vets. The Hawks don't need that kind of coach.
If they were 2-3yrs down the road, I would think about bringing Q back. I agree that he isn't the right coach right now.

I hope Cooper in Tampa is the guy.
 
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Agreed. To me Q has the same issue that Torts has and that is they would both bench youngsters and lean heavily on the vets. The Hawks don't need that kind of coach.

Q literally never did this. It's such an odd, enduring myth amongst certain Hawks fans. I guess because they really liked Brandon Pirri, Jeremy Morin, Jack Skille and Jimmy Hayes? And comparing him to Torts?

He took over a team with 20-year-old Toews and Kane, both of whom never ended up in the dog house. If Torts had his hands on 20-year-old Kane, he would've been a healthy scratch at points in 2008-09 and beyond.

21-year-old Niklas Hjalmarsson went from starting the season in Rockford to playing in the top-4 in the playoffs in 2008-09.

Kris Versteeg, Brandon Saad and Artemi Panarin were all Calder finalists (with Panarin winning) under Q.

Nick Leddy averaged 22 minutes a night as a 20-year-old for the entire 2011-12 season. Was he bumped down the depth chart for Oduya later? Yeah, bc Oduya was a better fit with Hammer.

Andrew Shaw and Marcus Kruger quickly ascended to the NHL roster and filled roles as 20 and 21-year-olds.

Teravainen played a key role in the top-9 with some PP time in 2014-15 in the playoffs as a 20-year-old.

Q didn't have a lot of time for bad players, or players that didn't fit the roles that were available on the team at the time. But he never had it out for young players. Not even close.
 
I think he was trying to get around the censoring of the word by spelling it differently.

I've never noticed words being censored on here. p***yes.

Edit: It defaults to that spelling, with the stars, even when you spell it right. That's good stuff.
 
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Q literally never did this. It's such an odd, enduring myth amongst certain Hawks fans. I guess because they really liked Brandon Pirri, Jeremy Morin, Jack Skille and Jimmy Hayes? And comparing him to Torts?

He took over a team with 20-year-old Toews and Kane, both of whom never ended up in the dog house. If Torts had his hands on 20-year-old Kane, he would've been a healthy scratch at points in 2008-09 and beyond.

21-year-old Niklas Hjalmarsson went from starting the season in Rockford to playing in the top-4 in the playoffs in 2008-09.

Kris Versteeg, Brandon Saad and Artemi Panarin were all Calder finalists (with Panarin winning) under Q.

Nick Leddy averaged 22 minutes a night as a 20-year-old for the entire 2011-12 season. Was he bumped down the depth chart for Oduya later? Yeah, bc Oduya was a better fit with Hammer.

Andrew Shaw and Marcus Kruger quickly ascended to the NHL roster and filled roles as 20 and 21-year-olds.

Teravainen played a key role in the top-9 with some PP time in 2014-15 in the playoffs as a 20-year-old.

Q didn't have a lot of time for bad players, or players that didn't fit the roles that were available on the team at the time. But he never had it out for young players. Not even close.
He just played favorites. He had guys he liked and didn’t like. Which is all coaches. Leddy definitely got jerked around when he was here. Kempny got scratched and then played huge minutes on a Stanley cup run for Washington. Daley played huge minutes after he was banished by Q. The corpse of Handzus might have single handily cost us the 2014 cup with how much Q overplayed him.

I agree that it wasn’t necessarily a young vs old thing.. more of a play style thing, which is fine I guess. But he had his whiffs.
 
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