Speculation: 2025 NHL Trade Rumors & Discussion

[M88K]

I like the Tampa GM. He sees his window open and does all he can to win now. I respect that. On the other hand he must really hate the draft with how he throws around draft picks. But at least he is going for it.

"f*** them picks. Who needs theoretical players anyway" -JB

 

[redbeardtx]

Wow

Now I'm praying for Columbus to upset them in the 1st round. Do it for Johnny.

Or for a Tampa/Florida first round matchup where the Panthers smoke them into oblivion

 

[M88K]

Now I'm praying for Columbus to upset them in the 1st round. Do it for Johnny.

Or for a Tampa/Florida first round matchup where the Panthers smoke them into oblivion

I hope they make it far, maybe it will encourage other gms to take a risk from time to time instead of always playing it safe. it is a copycat league after all.
Make the deadline more exciting again

 

[redbeardtx]

I hope they make it far, maybe it will encourage other gms to take a risk from time to time instead of always playing it safe. it is a copycat league after all.
Make the deadline more exciting again

You mean that you hope it will encourage Jim Nill to take big risks instead of playing it safe

 

[M88K]

You mean that you hope it will encourage Jim Nill to take big risks instead of playing it safe

Nill is who he is. He'll never change.
but more teams with the Vegas or Tampa approach is not a bad thing

 

[redbeardtx]

Nill is who he is. He'll never change.
but more teams with the Vegas or Tampa approach is not a bad thing

I don't disagree with ya, crazy TDLs every year would be entertaining as hell. Plus we'd end up with some ridiculously stacked teams going into the playoffs

 

[eartotheground]

It's not if they miss PO games or not, it's at what % do they return.

Like Stone came back for game 1 last year, but he wasn't 100%, which worked out in our favor. he made several uncharacteristic mistakes throughout that series, and it still went 7 games.

It Is better to have 1% Miro than 100% Dumba.
But you can't have Harley being the only healthy guy (hopefully healthy) with any ability to move the puck consistently.

the drop off from him to Lindell is quite large, it's even larger from Lindell to whatever #6 talent we have masquerading as a #4.

yeah, this all comes down to miro

Nill is who he is. He'll never change.
but more teams with the Vegas or Tampa approach is not a bad thing

to be fair there are plenty of teams with the F it approach that we don't remember bc they went nowhere in the playoffs

 

[Zapp]

We’ve been utilizing @Dallasman all wrong

We need to start passing info up the chain now

 

[Elysian]

Contraversial opinion, we don't need to do anything. If Miro is back for the playoffs we don't have to worry about Smith ever touching the ice, and Dumba can eat 11 minutes a night. We have two elite #1d, Lindell is a great shut down D, and our bottom pair of Bichsel and Dumba will be fine. Give Bichsel more minutes than Dumba and we're sitting pretty.

It's great to think about upgrading our #6 D but why give up assets for such a minimal change? There's not anything worth it on the market.

We're going to make the playoffs at least 2nd in the division, no need for anything else.

 

[Kcb12345]

Contraversial opinion, we don't need to do anything. If Miro is back for the playoffs we don't have to worry about Smith ever touching the ice, and Dumba can eat 11 minutes a night. We have two elite #1d, Lindell is a great shut down D, and our bottom pair of Bichsel and Dumba will be fine. Give Bichsel more minutes than Dumba and we're sitting pretty.

It's great to think about upgrading our #6 D but why give up assets for such a minimal change? There's not anything worth it on the market.

We're going to make the playoffs at least 2nd in the division, no need for anything else.

Don't you want the best possible team you can have going into the playoffs?

What if we lose in the first round because Miro isn't gonna be back until at least the end of the 1st it sounds like?

 

[BrettHullsToe]

to be fair there are plenty of teams with the F it approach that we don't remember bc they went nowhere in the playoffs

Yup Columbus went for it some years ago (2019, I think?) and finally won a round! And doing so set them back significantly compared to where they'd probably be if they had sold off their high value rentals.

 

[Elysian]

Don't you want the best possible team you can have going into the playoffs?

What if we lose in the first round because Miro isn't gonna be back until at least the end of the 1st it sounds like?

We have a better team right now, without Miro, than last year in the playoffs.

 

[Arkham32]

I'm fine if we just get another depth defenseman hopefully doesn't cost more then a third and maybe a prospect. I'm glad we got Ceci and Granlund early there isn't any holes that the trade market would fix at this point and any additional depth is just a bonus.

Trading Dumba for that depth defenseman would be a bigger bonus but if anything that can wait until the summer.

 

[BG44]

Contraversial opinion, we don't need to do anything. If Miro is back for the playoffs we don't have to worry about Smith ever touching the ice, and Dumba can eat 11 minutes a night. We have two elite #1d, Lindell is a great shut down D, and our bottom pair of Bichsel and Dumba will be fine. Give Bichsel more minutes than Dumba and we're sitting pretty.

It's great to think about upgrading our #6 D but why give up assets for such a minimal change? There's not anything worth it on the market.

We're going to make the playoffs at least 2nd in the division, no need for anything else.

If Miro returns, its not just Smith that is sitting. Dumba also comes out.

Harley-Heiskanen
Lindell-Lyubushkin
Bichsel-Ceci

 

[Zapp]

Don't you want the best possible team you can have going into the playoffs?

What if we lose in the first round because Miro isn't gonna be back until at least the end of the 1st it sounds like?

My thing is what has been said by Dallasman’s guy, Pagnotta, and Friedman. It would be shocking if they didn’t maximize this use of LTIR cap and go all in. I honestly wonder why we're getting linked to forwards at all. It's clear we need defense

 

[Dallasman]

That's how Nill thinks too I'd have to imagine.

 

[BG44]

Adding another D probably pushes Bichsel out of the lineup.

 

[Elysian]

If Miro returns, its not just Smith that is sitting. Dumba also comes out.

Harley-Heiskanen
Lindell-Lyubushkin
Bichsel-Ceci

Seriously hope that's the case, just never know with PDB lol

Adding another D probably pushes Bichsel out of the lineup.

This, absolutely. Bichsel will go out before Ceci because vetrun presents

 

[Dallasman]

My thing is what has been said by Dallasman’s guy, Pagnotta, and Friedman. It would be shocking if they didn’t maximize this use of LTIR cap and go all in. I honestly wonder why we're getting linked to forwards at all. It's clear we need defense

See, Nill isn't leaking this.

But there's other big mouths in other organizations who most likely are saying stuff to these insiders.

That's my thinking anyways.

 

[M88K]

Yup Columbus went for it some years ago (2019, I think?) and finally won a round! And doing so set them back significantly compared to where they'd probably be if they had sold off their high value rentals.

This is some revisionist history.
The situations aren't at all comparable.
CLB was barely a PO team, that was facing the prospect of losing their far and away best players (panarin, and Bobrovski). They bought everything they could Dzingel, Duchene, etc in hopes of selling them on an extension, by saying "we're trying to compete". Look at all we brought in

They both split anyway at the end of the year. Along with some of their deadline pickups (Duchene for instance)
That is what set them back
and despite those moves they still only made the PO by 2p over Montreal.

They were a bad team, trying desperately to keep the only good players on their roster.


We're a good team, that needs to just get over the hump, before all the young guys are on significant contracts and all the depth has to take a hit to make those numbers work.

Kicking the can down the road doesn't work when Johnston is making 10m, and Robertson is making 10m, and Harley is making 10m, and Bourque is making 7m, and Stankoven is making 7m, and Oettinger, Heiskanen and Hintz are making 8.5m

 

[LT]

Adding another D probably pushes Bichsel out of the lineup.

Fine with me. He's been good, but I worry PDB won't trust him as much in the playoffs, plus I want the insurance for another injury. Lyubushkin and Bichsel both have been shaken up in the last month. Or Miro could take longer than expected to return.

If Smith plays a playoff game, we are f***ed.

 

[Elysian]

Fine with me. He's been good, but I worry PDB won't trust him as much in the playoffs, plus I want the insurance for another injury. Lyubushkin and Bichsel both have been shaken up in the last month. Or Miro could take longer than expected to return.

If Smith plays a playoff game, we are f***ed.

Given how big he is and how much he hits, I hope PDB leaves him in the lineup throughout the playoffs. I know it's still questionable if he does, but I feel like he will.

 

[Kipper 17]

Fine with me. He's been good, but I worry PDB won't trust him as much in the playoffs, plus I want the insurance for another injury. Lyubushkin and Bichsel both have been shaken up in the last month. Or Miro could take longer than expected to return.

If Smith plays a playoff game, we are f***ed.

100% agree. I would love it if we could swing a trade for a top 4 RD, but if we can't we still should grab another 6/7. If that pushes Bichsel out, fine, I am sure he will get his chance in the playoffs whether it be because one of the bottom pair D struggles or an injury.

I don't want to end up running 5 D like last year, nor do I want to see Dumba any higher than 8th on the depth chart when fully healthy.

 

[MBTendy]

100% agree. I would love it if we could swing a trade for a top 4 RD, but if we can't we still should grab another 6/7. If that pushes Bichsel out, fine, I am sure he will get his chance in the playoffs whether it be because one of the bottom pair D struggles or an injury.

I don't want to end up running 5 D like last year, nor do I want to see Dumba any higher than 8th on the depth chart when fully healthy.

I doubt we run into the same problem as last year. Our depth D is much better than it was last year, even with Miro out.

Ceci, Smith and Dumba are better options than Nils (of last year).

the emergence of Bichsel has helped tremendously, or else I do think Nill would have been a lot more aggressive at the TDL.

That being said … I still would love to add a 4-6th Dman. We have the cap and assets to do it, so might as well spend to obtain a depth dman. It shouldn’t cost much either and it’s better to have options, especially if they go on another deep run. Ideally, I want Smith no where near the starting lineup so if they can push him down the depth chart to #9, and Dumba to #8. That’s depth.

Miro
Harley
Lindell
Lybush
Bichsel
New Guy
Ceci
Dumba
Smith

Ceci as a 7th D is a luxury.

 

[Troy McClure]

Yup Columbus went for it some years ago (2019, I think?) and finally won a round! And doing so set them back significantly compared to where they'd probably be if they had sold off their high value rentals.

Vegas, Florida, Colorado, and Tampa have won recent Cups going all in selling off the future, but they've also not won Cups along the way. Tampa and Colorado haven't had any playoff success the last couple of seasons.

The Penguins have gone all in the last few seasons and have nothing to show for it -- not even playoff appearances. And their future is bleak.

The Rangers have also consistently traded top draft picks chasing success the past few seasons and are a mess.

I think the problem is there's no formula to winning a Cup. Even among these recent Cup winners, the one notable consistency is they have multiple guys who were top five draft picks.