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M88K said:
I assume you're referencing Grandlund?
He's never been a ppg forward, ever in his career.
He actually overpaid, which makes it even funnier as he addressed a position that didn't need to be wasting his best tradeable asset for it.
We didn't need another 2nd line center, but it saves us from Brock Nelson so I'll take it.
The need coming into the season was a 2nd pairing d-man.
The need still is a 2nd pairing d-man

Savard probably isn't much of an improvement on Dumba at this point
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Hurry up and by the team
 
Nill probably could have made that Jones deal for Bourque and a conditional 2nd (upgraded to a 1st with a Cup win) since he's a better piece than Knight. And it absolutely would have been a good deal.

starsfan86 said:
We’d be bitching about how bad he is in 2-3 years and call Nill an idiot for trading for him lol.
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And then we'd look at our 2025 Cup Champion banner and remember that it was worth it. ;)
 
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M88K said:
I assume you're referencing Grandlund?
He's never been a ppg forward, ever in his career.
He actually overpaid, which makes it even funnier as he addressed a position that didn't need to be wasting his best tradeable asset for it.
We didn't need another 2nd line center, but it saves us from Brock Nelson so I'll take it.
The need coming into the season was a 2nd pairing d-man.
The need still is a 2nd pairing d-man

Savard probably isn't much of an improvement on Dumba at this point
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My bad, he's a 70 point player. So far that trade seems great to me.

There has yet to be a good trade for a good defenceman that we could've made. We weren't nor should've tried to match that Jones offer.

I'll join in on the complaining if I see another team getting a good defenseman for a price we could've realistically matched.
 
Klockis said:
My bad, he's a 70 point player. So far that trade seems great to me.

There has yet to be a good trade for a good defenceman that we could've made. We weren't nor should've tried to match that Jones offer.

I'll join in on the complaining if I see another team getting a good defenseman for a price we could've realistically matched.
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Lol he's never hit 70p either.

There's nothing wrong with him as a player so to speak.

We could have matched the Jones price from an asset standpoint.

The complaint isn't about not trading for Jones it's targeting blue liners like
Dumba, Ceci, Savard(rumor), Lyubushkin, Smith. Dime a dozen bottom pairing guys who are available for cheap in UFA every year.

Lyubushkin has largely been fine so far but I'm sure that won't hold for entire 3yrs he inexplicably got.
 
M88K said:
Lol he's never hit 70p either.
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That is true lol. I blame it on being 5 am here and a lack of sleep. I guess he's on pace for 70 this year but that's it.

I agree we have the assets just that the asset is Bichsel who I wouldn't trade for Jones (Im personally sceptical that Stankoven or Bourque hold much value outside of Dallas)
 
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Klockis said:
That is true lol. I blame it on being 5 am here and a lack of sleep. I guess he's on pace for 70 this year but that's it.

I agree we have the assets just that the asset is Bichsel who I wouldn't trade for Jones (Im personally sceptical that Stankoven or Bourque hold much value outside of Dallas)
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I wouldn't have traded Bichsel pre-concussion for Jones either.
But this is 3 straight years of concussions now, who knows how much of a career he has left with the frequency he's getting them. Still don't know if I would trade him for Jones, but knowing his struggles with prior concussions it would make it more palatable
 
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M88K said:
I assume you're referencing Grandlund?
He's never been a ppg forward, ever in his career.
He actually overpaid, which makes it even funnier as he addressed a position that didn't need to be wasting his best tradeable asset for it.
We didn't need another 2nd line center, but it saves us from Brock Nelson so I'll take it.
The need coming into the season was a 2nd pairing d-man.
The need still is a 2nd pairing d-man

Savard probably isn't much of an improvement on Dumba at this point
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The Stars absolutely did need another offensive forward.
 
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Troy McClure said:
The Stars absolutely did need another offensive forward.
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Sure, we only already have 6 healthy guys in
Robertson, Duchene, Johnston, Hintz, Marchment, Benn
That are all Grandlund level or better

Could also add in Seguin, who was expected back at some point in the PO.

Then you have Dadonov who's, at least this year, not far behind.

But sure we needed a 7th/8th offensive threat over an actual quality 2nd pairing d-man.

It's not like Granlund is even noted for finding another gear in the PO. I don't have a problem with adding him.
But the best use of our best expendable trade asset wasn't solidifying a position of strength instead of a glaring weakness.
 
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M88K said:
Sure, we only already have 6 healthy guys in
Robertson, Duchene, Johnston, Hintz, Marchment, Benn
That are all Grandlund level or better

Could also add in Seguin, who was expected back at some point in the PO.

Then you have Dadonov who's, at least this year, not far behind.

But sure we needed a 7th/8th offensive threat over an actual quality 2nd pairing d-man.

It's not like Granlund is even noted for finding another gear in the PO. I don't have a problem with adding him.
But the best use of our best expendable trade asset wasn't solidifying a position of strength instead of a glaring weakness.
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Lmfao at Benn being better than Granlund

The constant negativity about everything is just so exhausting to read
 
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M88K said:
Sure, we only already have 6 healthy guys in
Robertson, Duchene, Johnston, Hintz, Marchment, Benn
That are all Grandlund level or better

Could also add in Seguin, who was expected back at some point in the PO.

Then you have Dadonov who's, at least this year, not far behind.

But sure we needed a 7th/8th offensive threat over an actual quality 2nd pairing d-man.

It's not like Granlund is even noted for finding another gear in the PO. I don't have a problem with adding him.
But the best use of our best expendable trade asset wasn't solidifying a position of strength instead of a glaring weakness.
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Marchment is a risky guy to include on your healthy list as a lock. Marchment misses time. The way he plays and his shit luck makes him a constant question mark.

And Seguin is a complete unknown. At the time of the trade, we'd had no updates. Since then, he's started skating with hopes of being able to play before the playoffs, but how much can he be counted on.

Look at the playoffs last season. What ultimately buried the Stars was their offense drying up. They needed more from their forward group. Adding a second liner for depth was absolutely needed.
 
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The problem I have with the trade is Knight could be good but ha could also slip back in rehab. With the cap going up 7 million for a 3-4 defenseman is going to be expected. I also think Jones will be better on a good team.
 
Hockey Dad said:
The problem I have with the trade is Knight could be good but ha could also slip back in rehab. With the cap going up 7 million for a 3-4 defenseman is going to be expected. I also think Jones will be better on a good team.
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Chicago might have a different opinion on Knight though and could value him the same as Stankoven. Pretty dumb if that’s true, but entirely possible.
 
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starsfan86 said:
Chicago might have a different opinion on Knight though and could value him the same as Stankoven. Pretty dumb if that’s true, but entirely possible.
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I bet they value him higher than Stankoven. We may hold Stankoven in high regard but FO's love size and a 5'8 (at best) forward on pace for 13 goals and 40 points may not be all that enticing for most NHL teams.

Sean Shapiro said on a recent podcast episode (one of the Dllas ones) that he thinks Stankoven needs to be at least a 30 goal scorer to stick to the NHL. Now I disagree with that assessment, but my guess is that Shapiro has that perception because he's talked to people on the inside who has that opinion.
 
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Klockis said:
I bet they value him higher than Stankoven. We may hold Stankoven in high regard but FO's love size and a 5'8 (at best) forward on pace for 13 goals and 40 points may not be all that enticing for most NHL teams.

Sean Shapiro said on a recent podcast episode (one of the Dllas ones) that he thinks Stankoven needs to be at least a 30 goal scorer to stick to the NHL. Now I disagree with that assessment, but my guess is that Shapiro has that perception because he's talked to people on the inside who has that opinion.
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I agree with Sean. If he’s not scoring or at least putting a lot of assists I don’t see what value Stankoven brings. He’s too small to be a 3rd line energy guy and playing that game will wear him out fast. He’ll be ineffective at it and have to expend more energy to make up the size difference against his opponents.

In Sean’s defense he thinks Stankoven can be that player.
 
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