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Prospect Info: 2025 NHL Entry Draft

Of the top players, it's probably safe to assume that Schaefer, Misa, Martine, Frondell, Hagens, and Desnoyers will be gone by 10th in any order. I would be very surprised to see any of these players at 10.

Of the players left generally rated in the top 10, who of Martin, McQueen, Mrtka, Eklund, or O'Brien would you rather pick if possible?

For me, I think Mrtka because I can picture him next to LaCombe for the next decade dominating on both sides of the ice.
I've come to the conclusion that I don't want to get too attached to any of the 5 possibilities that you mentioned b/c they are all good choices and there is only a 20% chance that I'll get the one I want. I would add Carter Bear to that list of five. With his injury not looking as bad as once feared it looks like he is getting some momentum again to move into the top 10-12.

The only thing I don't want them to do is to trade the pick.
 
I'd like to add two more players onto that list of possibilities: RD Hensler and C Jack Nesbitt. Both of these players are players you draft who they will be in D+3 to D+5 seasons. Hensler's game got better in the second half of the NCAA season as a top-4D with great skating. Nesbitt took a big jump in production and if he continues to add more mass, then he can improve his skating as well as become even more of a bully on the ice.

 
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I'd like to add two more players onto that list of possibilities: RD Hensler and C Jack Nesbitt. Both of these players are players you draft who they will be in D+3 to D+5 seasons. Hensler's game got better in the second half of the NCAA season as a top-4D with great skating. Nesbitt took a big jump in production and if he continues to add more mass, then he can improve his skating as well as become even more of a bully on the ice.

They'll both go top 20-25 but I'd trade down if they were my targets. No need in this draft to reach for them IMO. The top 10-11 is pretty good and a cut above the rest. My $0.02.
 
@19Simon19 has a scouting report up on McQueen on the main prospects board. Worth looking at...he knows how to scout and is a good evaluator of talent. He's much lower on McQueen than most. 3rd line potential is what he sees...physical but not a strong offensive player. Interesting stuff.
In addition to that 3rd line potential he's high risk to completely bust and bring no value at all and they will eventually need any kind of NHL talent on an ELC if the rebuild is over as they'll eventually need cheap talent on ELCs when the core starts to get signed longterm. They can't afford to waste the 10th overall pick, they need to make this pick be the last top10 pick.

Any of Martin, O'Brien, Eklund, Lakovic, Bear, Mrtka, Smith doesnt carry that risk or low ceiling..
 
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The biggest concern with McQueen besides his injury is the stunted development. He has spent most of a prime development year on the sidelines and there are still question marks about his ability to complete a season. That lack of development will hurt him more than the injury itself.

I like McQueen because of the potential but it is very risky
 
Of the top players, it's probably safe to assume that Schaefer, Misa, Martine, Frondell, Hagens, and Desnoyers will be gone by 10th in any order. I would be very surprised to see any of these players at 10.

Of the players left generally rated in the top 10, who of Martin, McQueen, Mrtka, Eklund, or O'Brien would you rather pick if possible?

For me, I think Mrtka because I can picture him next to LaCombe for the next decade dominating on both sides of the ice.

I have O'Brien in that top group where I can't fathom him dropping to 10, I just think as a right handed C he has too much going for him to not go in the top 7-8. I see our choice coming down to two of the following - Martin, Mrtka, McQueen, Eklund, then also maybe someone like Smith/Aitcheson, Carbonneau and a few other possible wildcards. Martin and Mrtka seem like the easiest choices to be taken ahead of us or else I'd expect one of them to be our pick.

If Schaefer, Misa, Desnoyers, Martone, Frondell, Hagens, O'Brien, Martin, Mrtka are the top 9 in some order, I'd be pretty content with Eklund
 
If the choice is between Eklund, Bear, Lakovic, and Carbonneau…I’m really hoping we select Eklund

Eklund would really round out our offense

I understand the size thing but I think we have enough size in the system as it stands

I’m obviously hoping Martin falls because he’s the obvious choice but not expecting it
 
If the choice is between Eklund, Bear, Lakovic, and Carbonneau…I’m really hoping we select Eklund

Eklund would really round out our offense

I understand the size thing but I think we have enough size in the system as it stands

I’m obviously hoping Martin falls because he’s the obvious choice but not expecting it
If it's Eklund I hope that he can play on his shooting side (LW). After taking Sennecke and Masse last year they may be more interested in someone who plays the left side all things considered. That might favor Bear or Lakovic. And I'd still consider McQueen if he dropped. A 6'5" RHC even on the 3rd line is still a valuable player. I'm hearing comparisons to Mason Marchmont which is a player everyone seems to want to acquire. It's going to be an interesting day.
 
Whoever we pick is likely 2-3 years away. At that time, we potentially/hopefully have a top 9/6 of:
RW- Terry, Sennecke Colangelo
C- Carlsson, McTavish, Zegras
LW- Gauthier, Vatrano (?), ???
LHD- LaCombe, Mintyukov Zellweger, Solberg
RHD- Helleson, Luneau, Moore

Those are the guys I think are likely to be NHL players at that point (not necessarily with us, but currently in the system). A good, veteran, top/middle 6 LW (or 2) that knows how to win will probably be the biggest need. The #10 pick could also take one of those spots or take 3C and move Zegras (either to wing or another team). That's not considering if any other player not currently on the radar hits and pushes their way on the roster.
 
Whoever we pick is likely 2-3 years away. At that time, we potentially/hopefully have a top 9/6 of:
RW- Terry, Sennecke Colangelo
C- Carlsson, McTavish, Zegras
LW- Gauthier, Vatrano (?), ???
LHD- LaCombe, Mintyukov Zellweger, Solberg
RHD- Helleson, Luneau, Moore

Those are the guys I think are likely to be NHL players at that point (not necessarily with us, but currently in the system). A good, veteran, top/middle 6 LW (or 2) that knows how to win will probably be the biggest need. The #10 pick could also take one of those spots or take 3C and move Zegras (either to wing or another team). That's not considering if any other player not currently on the radar hits and pushes their way on the roster.
Yeah assuming they sign a big UFA this year, in those 3 years from now Carlsson/Gauthier/McTavish/LaCombe will have gotten huge pay raises and Zegras/Sennecke/Mintyukov will be getting paid more. So drafting a LW/RW who's ready 3 years from now can contribute while being on an ELC.

With how big the FO is on Solberg I think thats the guy who pushes Zellweger into being traded.
 
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The biggest concern with McQueen besides his injury is the stunted development. He has spent most of a prime development year on the sidelines and there are still question marks about his ability to complete a season. That lack of development will hurt him more than the injury itself.

I like McQueen because of the potential but it is very risky
my biggest concern with mcqueen (aside from the injuries) is that he's had success up to this point mostly because of his size more than anything else. what happens once he gets to the AHL or NHL where he's not the biggest or strongest guy on the ice anymore?
 
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They'll both go top 20-25 but I'd trade down if they were my targets. No need in this draft to reach for them IMO. The top 10-11 is pretty good and a cut above the rest. My $0.02.

On some mocks Mrtka is a mid-teens pick. CSB Finals ranking has Mrtka ranked above Martone, Desnoyers, and McQueen.

IMO, there is a top-8, two-tier grouping. After that group set of eight, then comes players with some questions.

Tier 1
LD Schaefer
C Misa

Tier 2
C Hagens, RW Martone, C Frondell, C O'Brien, C Desnoyers,
RDMrtka

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Next group are players with question marks

C McQueen: back injury concerns
LW Eklund: can his diminutive body handle the NHL well
LD Smith: a fast OFD, but that defense is lacking
LW Lakovic: a fast, offensively skilled winger, but plays a finesse game at 6'4. (Look like tarzan, but play like jane.)
C Bear: Achilles tendon cut could affect his skating
C Martin: great hitter and NHL shot, but rest of the game needs help and offensive upside is low
LD Aitcheson: physical, will fight DFD, but is that offensive side translatable to the NHL (do we need another LD?)
RW Carbonneau: PF out of the Q with great offense, but disappears often in games
C Nesbitt: 6'4 PF, but is his production due to better players (was identified as most improved player in OHL)
RD Hensler: has top pairing tools, but lacking top pairing confidence

Recall that last year we owned the #3 pick and surprised the NHL world with the selection of Sennecke, bypassing more known quantities in Demidov, Lindstrom, and Dickinson. Why not add some other names just so we aren't too surprised? My mind is hoping for Mrtka, but it's open other players too.
 


We probably got our own version of this player last year but it sure is fun to watch haha. He's almost the Dman version of Martin in that you can totally see a GM falling in love with the physical side, and they both have enough offense to back up a fairly early selection.
 
On some mocks Mrtka is a mid-teens pick. CSB Finals ranking has Mrtka ranked above Martone, Desnoyers, and McQueen.

IMO, there is a top-8, two-tier grouping. After that group set of eight, then comes players with some questions.

Tier 1
LD Schaefer
C Misa

Tier 2
C Hagens, RW Martone, C Frondell, C O'Brien, C Desnoyers,
RDMrtka

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Next group are players with question marks

C McQueen: back injury concerns
LW Eklund: can his diminutive body handle the NHL well
LD Smith: a fast OFD, but that defense is lacking
LW Lakovic: a fast, offensively skilled winger, but plays a finesse game at 6'4. (Look like tarzan, but play like jane.)
C Bear: Achilles tendon cut could affect his skating
C Martin: great hitter and NHL shot, but rest of the game needs help and offensive upside is low
LD Aitcheson: physical, will fight DFD, but is that offensive side translatable to the NHL (do we need another LD?)
RW Carbonneau: PF out of the Q with great offense, but disappears often in games
C Nesbitt: 6'4 PF, but is his production due to better players (was identified as most improved player in OHL)
RD Hensler: has top pairing tools, but lacking top pairing confidence

Recall that last year we owned the #3 pick and surprised the NHL world with the selection of Sennecke, bypassing more known quantities in Demidov, Lindstrom, and Dickinson. Why not add some other names just so we aren't too surprised? My mind is hoping for Mrtka, but it's open other players too.
Probably a good idea to expect another surprise this year. Personally I don't like the idea of taking Mrtka or McQueen if one or both are available as they give me the vibe of being this years edition of overrated giants that are unlikely to live up to expectations even if healthy. Wouldn’t mind any other name from that list though or even reaching for someone like Ryabkin or Kindel.
 
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my biggest concern with mcqueen (aside from the injuries) is that he's had success up to this point mostly because of his size more than anything else. what happens once he gets to the AHL or NHL where he's not the biggest or strongest guy on the ice anymore?
That’s fair, but you could pretty much say that about every big draft prospect.
 
The thing that may tip the scales towards McQueen is that he loves to be physical. So even if he doesn't hit his ceiling he can still be valuable as a physical lower scoring power forward.
 
Probably a good idea to expect another surprise this year. Personally I don't like the idea of taking Mrtka or McQueen if one or both are available as they give me the vibe of being this years edition of overrated giants that are unlikely to live up to expectations even if healthy. Wouldn’t mind any other name from that list though or even reaching for someone like Ryabkin or Kindel.
In my opinion the big guys that don’t pan out are the ones who rely on size and brute force in juniors but don’t have skill or iq. McQueen is kind of the opposite. Skill and iq are total strengths of his.
 
my biggest concern with mcqueen (aside from the injuries) is that he's had success up to this point mostly because of his size more than anything else. what happens once he gets to the AHL or NHL where he's not the biggest or strongest guy on the ice anymore?
Well he is 6'5 so he will be close to the biggest on the ice also has great skill and good skating for his size so he does have other attributes to help him
 
Nesbitt player comparison is Jamie Benn there's nothing like that in this current lineup and he is one of this year's fastest risers. Maybe Verbeek Will abandon the gentle giant strategy
i don’t mind Nesbitt, but I’d hope we’d trade down a bit if that’s who we’re aiming at
 

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