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If we didn’t already have Mintyukov zellweger laxombe and solberg + other guys with nhl upside, id like him.
But I honestly don’t even watch LhD because I feel that’s the last thing we need
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If we didn’t already have Mintyukov zellweger laxombe and solberg + other guys with nhl upside, id like him.
But I honestly don’t even watch LhD because I feel that’s the last thing we need
I agree, but I also think good size often makes both scouts and fans attribute a higher overall skill level to those players.
Could definitely be wrong on this pair, has happened plenty of times in the past and on top of that I've only seen highlights from them this year. From my limited viewings I don't see the hype though, so would be surprised if one or both of them turn out to be an impact player.
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If we're looking at physical centermen archetype, then it's Martin and Nesbitt. Let's do some deep diving.
C Brady Martin
Height: 6'0
Weight: 174 lbs
Shoots: Right
Martin was able to kick in his scoring into another gear into the second half of the season. Gotta love that he's a 30-goal scorer with his penchant for being physical. Unfortunately, that high end scoring dropped significantly in the playoffs, in the first round. Not only did his scoring drop, but his FO% took a nose dive too.
The most games Martin played in a season was 57 games this year, out of a total of 68 games. Now, I am beginning to question if his body can continue to handle that physicalness at the NHL level. Looking at his FO%, maybe Martin doesn't stick at center. At least he would be a physical RW.
C Jack Nesbitt
Height: 6'4.25"
Weight: 183 lbs
Shoots: Left
Nesbitt's offense improved in his second half of this year and appears to be more playmaker, but can score goals. During the playoffs, his scoring rate did take dip. His faceoffs improved between his two OHL seasons and nearly at 50% in the playoffs. There is a more likely chance that Nesbitt will remain at center at the NHL level.
Because Nesbitt is a better FO specialist, appears in more games while playing physical, and still has room to fill out his frame is why I would rather take a chance on Nesbitt sticking at center than Martin. A FO specialist can help on the PK1/PK2 and PP2 units for the Ducks, who are in dire need for FO specialists. It also helps that taller guys generally take time to develop because they usually have more to fill out than shorter players. To put his height and weight into perspective, Sennecke was drafted at 6'3 and 194 lbs. We saw his picture in a Ducks jersey after he was drafted and Sennecke was a string bean! Just how much more dominant and faster can Nesbitt be once he is over 205 lbs?!
While some may think that Nesbitt might be a reach at 10th overall, he has been mocked in the 10-17 range. NHL.com's Morreale has him going 10th to the Ducks; Kimelman had him at 12th. MyNHLdraft has him mocked at 16th. FC Hockey has him going 17th. CSB Final rankings has Nesbitt ranked 15th for NA Skater. For reference, Sennecke was ranked 13th in CSB's Final ranking for 2024 and we picked Sennecke 3rd overall.
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We need desperately to become meaner and bigger and faster
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What are your thoughts on Martin?
If there were 3 guys you would want to see them get at 10 who are they and in what order?
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Even Dirk is on board with Martin at #10
Probably the most likely to pan out of those 3.
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6'5 McQueen has the most offensive upside hands down, but back injury issues is making him a huge risk. 6'4.25" Nesbitt has the next highest upside with respect to offense. 6'0 Martin has the highest Gudas smash rate, but not all around game and can't win FO's at 50% or higher and even worse in the playoffs. And he's missing games b/c of his physicality, which doesn't bode well at the pro level.
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Martin's comparison is Sam Bennett which is a physical 2c he definitely needs to add muscle mass. I dont know if McQueen has the same offensive upside maybe comparible. Either way I think Martin wont be available and most likely McQueen as well so Nesbitt would be a no brainer especially if the options are Eklund or Mrtka
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I agree with not trading the pick. We have zellwegger as a trading chip to use when the right upgrade becomes available. We will have to add some, but still.
Random draft related thought but I have been impressed with Rimouski's second year eligible goalie Mathis Langevin. Thought they were a little overmatched in the Q final against Moncton and in game one of the Memorial Cup against Medicine Hat - but Langevin has been keeping them in games
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Would have been easy to miss last year, playing just 15 games split between the Q and Quebec Jr A
Mathis Langevin - Stats, Contract, Salary & More
Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Mathis Langevin, 2006-06-18 St-Zotique, QC, CAN Canada. Most recently in the QMJHL with Rimouski Océanic. Complete player biography and stats.
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Would have been easy to miss last year, playing just 15 games split between the Q and Quebec Jr A
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With this being considered a weaker draft.... and our prospect full being pretty deep.... id still very much like to Package picks to move up and grab guys we really want.
Our 2nd isnt ours so its a bit later, but hoping maybe we can slide that pick up to the 35-40 range.
Our 2nd isnt ours so its a bit later, but hoping maybe we can slide that pick up to the 35-40 range.
Agreed, we don't have the space for quantity for the next few years. We can afford to have fewer picks and aim for higher quality guys for a draft or two. Hopefully the team takes a swing, it would be great to get another LaCombe quality player in the 2nd round.
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For the past five years, the Ducks have drafted or signed a notable overager.
2020: Rd 5, LW Galimov; #1 on Leaf Nation
2021: Rd 4, C Lopina; The Hockey News top 15
2022: Rd 4, C King; the Athletic (Wheeler) top 11
2023: Rd 3, RW Sidorov; Rd 5, LD Dionicio; and UDFA G Suchanek (AHL contract to ELC); Daily Faceoff top 15
2024: Rd 6, RW Burnevik; Daily Faceoff top 10
I wonder who on that the Athletic list could become the next Ducks draftee?
I like LD Sam Laurila b/c he's developed into a 2-way D in the USHL this season and heading to the NCAA (North Dakota) next year. CSB Final ranking has him at #65 for NA Skaters. That should put him around late 3rd or later when we include goalies and European skaters. What is good about drafting Sam is that we could wait four years to sign him. since he's NCAA bound.
According to PuckPedia, the Ducks own the 89th pick (bottom of the 3rd round) via the Maple Leafs and the 104th pick (top of the 4th) via Detroit (Boston's original pick). The Leafs pick was due to a 3-team trade with the Ducks and Canes; Ducks retained 50% of Lybushkin's salary and Carolina retained 25% of Lybushkin's salary. The Boston pick was from the Red Wings cap dump trade of Fabbri.
If the Ducks want to take Sam early, then they have their own pick at #72 (top of the 3rd round).
Random draft related thought but I have been impressed with Rimouski's second year eligible goalie Mathis Langevin. Thought they were a little overmatched in the Q final against Moncton and in game one of the Memorial Cup against Medicine Hat - but Langevin has been keeping them in games
Mathis Langevin - Stats, Contract, Salary & More
Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Mathis Langevin, 2006-06-18 St-Zotique, QC, CAN Canada. Most recently in the QMJHL with Rimouski Océanic. Complete player biography and stats.
Would have been easy to miss last year, playing just 15 games split between the Q and Quebec Jr A
He played great versus London last night, but I don't know if I've ever seen this
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unfortunately none of them have really became anything(granted most picks in that range don’t become much anyway)
Tho there is promise with galimov siderov and burnevik
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Yeah... anything outside the top-10 is a gamble. It gets worse the further away you go. But if you can hit on one of those lower round picks, then it helps tremendously at the NHL level. Terry was a 5th round pick. Manson was a 6th round pick. Vatanen was a 4th round pick.
Source: What's an NHL Draft Pick Worth?
Galimov got to be star-like at the KHL this season in his D+7 season, 2nd in the KHL in goal scoring with 35 goals. It feels highly unlikely Galimov will sign with with the Ducks and removes that chances of being something for us in the NHL level.
I like the promise of all prospects from the 2023 draft and forward. Suchanek might have the highest potential out of all of them as he stood on his head last year for the Gulls, but an injury stole his 2024-25 season away.
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