For good or bad I think Eklund falls out of the top 10. Every year the playoffs are fresh on the minds of everyone where size and physicality almost always wins out over small and talented. Come draft day teams will be prioritizing size and I'll be surprised if anyone under 6' other than Hagens goes in the top 10-12 picks.
Prospect Info: 2025 NHL Entry Draft
- Thread starter WhatTheDuck
- Start date
If you are dead set on pushing a narrative based on a meaningless sample size, then that's indeed a great interpretation of those numbers. For instance, they're just slightly better than notorious dead weight complimentary player Ryan Getzlaf at the same point in their careers, so I'd say your take is spot on.
It seems pretty unlikely to draft anything but a complementary player with this crop of players in our draft position.
I'll get them ranked pronto, but my previous post listing prospects by birth year , the 20 listed were my top 20 names
GunnarStahl
Let’s go shake their hands
- Oct 13, 2020
- 2,150
- 3,185
Dirk probably likes Martone the most. Mrtka and to a lesser extent McQueen aren't physical enough. Misa and Martone are probably appreciated as well. Martin and Aitcheson are his guys.
GunnarStahl
Let’s go shake their hands
- Oct 13, 2020
- 2,150
- 3,185
robbieboy3686
Registered User
- Jan 17, 2016
- 2,856
- 3,132
I would bet anything that verbeek sees Zegras and Terry ( smaller dudes with no physicality) and thinks to himself that’s one guy to many. Now he’s just going to draft a top 6 small dude to add to that? Don’t think so
Terry Yake
Registered User
- Aug 5, 2013
- 26,871
- 19,031
MMC
Global Moderator
I take Martin over McQueen every day of the week and twice on Sundays
MMC
Global Moderator
Schaefer
Misa
Desnoyers
Martone
Frondell
Hagens
O'Brien
Martin
Smith
Mrtka
McQueen
Eklund
Aitcheson
Carbonneau
Bear
Reschny
Fiddler
Potter
Hensler
Lakovic
Just an interesting question.
What is the difference between the discourse on Brady Martin now compared to Nathan Gaucher in 2022?
What is the difference between the discourse on Brady Martin now compared to Nathan Gaucher in 2022?
No comparison. Gaucher was pretty solidly cemented into the mid 20s-early 30s by most draft evaluators and the Ducks took him at the higher end of that range. Martin was mostly in the 15-25 range a month ago and now is top 10 with a bullet.
I meant in terms of play style and potential.
I remember Gaucher was seen as a middle 6 Center prospect with physicality.
I think they were viewed similarly but Martin's physicality is just on another planet. Offensively I think Martin is viewed with more upside than Gaucher b/c he seems to have better tools. That said, however, Gaucher was thought to have middle six potential but now appears to have bottom six reality. Martin could go the same way but I'm guessing he will actually become a middle six player. A team that takes Martin in the top 10 is banking on him becoming a Michael Peca level 2nd line player.
Big Fat Rebound
Dongle Digits.
- Nov 26, 2017
- 10,430
- 18,206
I’d have to do more than a quick prescout, but if I had to guess, it’s that the consensus is his wrist shot is a legitimate weapon that could develop into an elite tool. I don’t think Gaucher anything in his predraft that projected at that level
Hockey Duckie
Registered User
Here's a name that's jumping up very high with NHL.com guys Kimelman (deputy managing editor) and Morreale (senior draft writer) with their mock drafts: C Jack Nesbitt. His CSB Final ranking rank is 15th with biometrics at 6'4.25" and 185 lbs. Morreale had Nesbitt going to the Ducks at #10 and Kimelman had Nesbitt going #12 to the Rangers. Could Nesbitt be yet another player the Ducks draft for what he can be in the future than what he is now? It appears that some scouting media believe that Nesbitt still has room to grow his body. Maybe he could be a safer bet than McQueen if that is the type of player the Ducks are after?
On Wheeler's May 5th draft ranking, Nesbitt ranked 30th and here's his scouting report on him:
Here is MyNHLdraft's scouting profile on Nesbitt:
On Wheeler's May 5th draft ranking, Nesbitt ranked 30th and here's his scouting report on him:
Here is MyNHLdraft's scouting profile on Nesbitt:
Nesbitt is interesting and has an interesting toolkit. I worry that his stats were bigly inflated by playing on a powerhouse Windsor team. His skating is definitely a work in progress which may hold him back. If you draft him you have to be prepared to accept that he may just be a 3rd line NHL player. Could definitely be a riser on draft day though. Players with size always are. My question is whether he is really any different or better than Procyszyn...
Last edited:
- Jul 25, 2012
- 39,648
- 43,830
I was curious about Nesbitt, was reading some of his stuff the last couple days.
His profile(and what you posted) makes him look like someone that we should def be looking at.
Hockey Duckie
Registered User
Nesbitt was part of that weak Windsor team last year and was 13th in scoring in his D-1 season, 9g + 9a in 58 games. Dionicio outscored him in only 16 games with 5g + 15a! This year, he's 5th in scoring with 25g + 39a in 65 games (0.98 ppg) and jumping over several teammates. I don't think you are giving Nesbitt credit for his own development.
Procyszyn was also on a stacked team in his D+0 season, but had a lower scoring rate of 0.58 ppg (15g + 21a in 62 games). It might be safe to say that Nesbitt's offense is more advanced than Procyszyn's offense when comparing their D+0 productions instead of comparing Nesbitt's D+0 production with Procyszyn's D+1 production.
I did some more digging. The height and weight of Nesbitt is the same from his CSB summer preliminary ratings and he was a B rating. It will be interesting to see his most updated height and weight at the NHL combine.
Hockey Duckie
Registered User
I was surprised to see Nesbitt's name for both NHL.com writers in the top-12. He wasn't one of the regular names we have been talking about, but that was because we were looking at drafting 8OA. Do we take the risk with McQueen? I love Eklund's tenacity, but how long will his body last playing like that in the NHL?
Now we're at 10th, we're in a different pool of players. Martin's got a boost from the WJC-18's, but his offensive ceiling might be lower outside of his NHL shot. RD Hensler has top-4 tools that transfers to the NHL, but he still doesn't know if he's a shutdown guy, an offensive guy, or a transitional guy. Lakovic is a finesse 6'4 forward.
Then I see Nesbitt today. Tankathon has him going 29th. MyNHLdraft has him going 16th. McKenzie's mid-season ranking had him 23rd. The Hockey Writers' Horn has him going 14th. Wheeler has him going 32nd. CSB Final Rankings (done before WJC-18), had him as 15th NA skater. The NHL.com guys have him 10th and 12th. That's a wide range for Nesbitt.
Is Nesbitt good at faceoffs? He's taken the most faceoffs with Windsor's regular season (558/1085 for 51.4%), 3rd in FO for the OHL Top Prospects game (6/8 for 75.0%), and most for Windsor's post-season (116/233 for 49.8%). That's a lot better than some of our current centers.
Here's more scout reporting on Nesbitt done on Feb 15 (Nesbitt has risen since then):
The question becomes, "Does Nesbitt have more runway to develop, especially as a tall 2C?" If he's a 3C, then he'd be in the same boat as Martin. I'd probably just stick with Eklund or gamble with McQueen... unless Mrtka falls to us. We could take a gamble on RD Hensler becoming a top-4D since he does possess all the tools, but not the flash.
Smirnov2Chistov
EEK!
Yes, that was posted earlier. I liked it obviously given who had been selected 1-9 in his mock.
All Mighty
Registered User
Here is Scott Wheeler's first mock top 10:
1. NYI - Schaefer
2. SJS - Misa
3. CHI - Frondell
4. UHC - Desnoyers
5. NSH - Hagens
6. PHI - Martin
7. BOS - O'Brien
8. SEA - Martone
9. BUF - McQueen
10. ANA - Mrtka
1. NYI - Schaefer
2. SJS - Misa
3. CHI - Frondell
4. UHC - Desnoyers
5. NSH - Hagens
6. PHI - Martin
7. BOS - O'Brien
8. SEA - Martone
9. BUF - McQueen
10. ANA - Mrtka
