Prospect Info: 2025 NHL Entry Draft

anezthes

Registered User
Mar 20, 2014
4,905
3,411
I'm starting to lean towards Misa which is definitely a flip from where I'd have it before.

Martone is an offensive beast with a chip on his shoulder, reminds of a prime Perry or a bit of a Brady Tkachuk vibe - really good player.

But it's not hard to see franchise center potential in Misa. Sort of similar to Celebrini where there isn't a notable weakness or really anything they don't do pretty damn well. Really high floor but also huge upside, can be a gritty two way 2C like a Kadri, Bennett type guy even if the offense isn't truly high end, but he's scoring a goal per game in the OHL at 17.

Any concern that Martone might just be a man amongst boys in the OHL?
 

WhatTheDuck

9 - 20 - 8
May 17, 2007
24,653
18,897
Worst Case, Ontario
Any concern that Martone might just be a man amongst boys in the OHL?

Not really, I think he'll be a star, he's big and talented enough to bully his way around the offensive zone against men in a due time. I'm just starting to think Misa as a jack of all trades center (even doing great in the face off circle, competes all over the ice) may trump him out along with Schaefer as having franchise potential. A Perry or Tkachuk would be great but you don't take one over a superstar center or Dman
 
  • Like
Reactions: JotAlan

shach1

Registered User
Aug 12, 2023
122
118
Not really, I think he'll be a star, he's big and talented enough to bully his way around the offensive zone against men in a due time. I'm just starting to think Misa as a jack of all trades center (even doing great in the face off circle, competes all over the ice) may trump him out along with Schaefer as having franchise potential. A Perry or Tkachuk would be great but you don't take one over a superstar center or Dman
Would this mean Misa is our 2C? I think Martone would be a better fit position wise.
 

WhatTheDuck

9 - 20 - 8
May 17, 2007
24,653
18,897
Worst Case, Ontario
Would this mean Misa is our 2C? I think Martone would be a better fit position wise.

For me when it comes to the top of the draft, you have to the player you see becoming the highest value star, then address organizational needs with other picks. Get the most elite player you can and fit the rest around it.

But I think every team dreams of having two #1 caliber centers to build around. Not saying they are on the same level, but Carlsson/Misa could be our Malkin/Crosby stylistically speaking.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Anaheim4ever

shach1

Registered User
Aug 12, 2023
122
118
For me when it comes to the top of the draft, you have to the player you see becoming the highest value star, then address organizational needs with other picks. Get the most elite player you can and fit the rest around it.

But I think every team dreams of having two #1 caliber centers to build around. Not saying they are on the same level, but Carlsson/Misa could be our Malkin/Crosby stylistically speaking.
Then is Z our 3C?
 
  • Like
Reactions: Anaheim4ever

WhatTheDuck

9 - 20 - 8
May 17, 2007
24,653
18,897
Worst Case, Ontario
Martone seems like the better fit… but that’s based on the players we have panning out, which isn’t a guarantee.

Prob still a coin flip for me

Fit factors in if it's equal or too close to call, but this org can't afford to pass on the more elite talent due to their fit with players who haven't proven to be elite. If tiers start to emerge in that top group as the year goes on, we want to get into the highest tier possible.

The other thing to consider when comparing them, is that Martone is a late bday guy and actually the same age as Sennecke, whereas Misa is a birth year younger than those two.
 

Rasp

Registered User
Apr 9, 2019
1,354
1,949
I'm starting to lean towards Misa which is definitely a flip from where I'd have it before.

Martone is an offensive beast with a chip on his shoulder, reminds of a prime Perry or a bit of a Brady Tkachuk vibe - really good player.

But it's not hard to see franchise center potential in Misa. Sort of similar to Celebrini where there isn't a notable weakness or really anything they don't do pretty damn well. Really high floor but also huge upside, can be a gritty two way 2C like a Kadri, Bennett type guy even if the offense isn't truly high end, but he's scoring a goal per game in the OHL at 17.




I want to know why scouts were so low on him at the start of the season. Were there issues he fixed or did he just take a huge step forward?
 

WhatTheDuck

9 - 20 - 8
May 17, 2007
24,653
18,897
Worst Case, Ontario
I want to know why scouts were so low on him at the start of the season. Were their issues he fixed of did he just take a huge step forward?

Brock Otten addressed that in his recent initial ranking, where he had Misa first ahead of Schaefer and Martone.

 

Hockey Duckie

Registered User
Jul 25, 2003
19,422
14,680
southern cal
I'm liking all of the options to increase our forward scoring, but reading up on Schaefer by Brock has me wanting Schaefer. Here's what Brock summed up on Schaefer, "He has the chance to be a real defensive cornerstone and a potential Norris candidate. If the team picking first has a real need for a cornerstone on the back-end, Schaefer is going to be difficult to pass up."

Anaheim has a lot of OFD's on the squad and are lacking in potential NHL top-4 defensive d-men. The closest we have to that kind of d-man now are LaCombe and Minty, with LaCombe ahead of Minty defensively. Both are fringe middle pairing D at the moment. It does suck that Schaefer is an LD, but that could also mean we have more trade capital in the near future if Schaefer progresses faster than expected. Or we can convert some LDs to RD in LaCombe, Zell, or Hinds. All three have played exclusively RD with their junior or NCAA teams before going pro.

Top-10 drafted forwards in the Anaheim system since both rebuilds
  • 2019, 9th OA, C Zegras
  • 2021, 3rd OA, C McTavish
  • 2022, 5th OA, LW Cutter
  • 2023, 2nd OA, C Carlsson
  • 2024, 3rd OA, RW Sennecke

Top-10 drafted d-men in the Anaheim system since both rebuilds
  • 2022, 10th OA, LD Mintyukov
If the opportunity presents itself that Schaefer is available to us, then I hope we can draft him. We are relying late first round or later draft picks to populate our blueline. Not many teams are willing to trade young, top-4 defensive d-men. Anaheim would have to draft one and the likelihood of grabbing one of those is in the top-3.

Of course, we still have a lot of season left to see if Schaefer can continue to build up his resume to be the BPA.
 

WhatTheDuck

9 - 20 - 8
May 17, 2007
24,653
18,897
Worst Case, Ontario
I'm liking all of the options to increase our forward scoring, but reading up on Schaefer by Brock has me wanting Schaefer. Here's what Brock summed up on Schaefer, "He has the chance to be a real defensive cornerstone and a potential Norris candidate. If the team picking first has a real need for a cornerstone on the back-end, Schaefer is going to be difficult to pass up."

Anaheim has a lot of OFD's on the squad and are lacking in potential NHL top-4 defensive d-men. The closest we have to that kind of d-man now are LaCombe and Minty, with LaCombe ahead of Minty defensively. Both are fringe middle pairing D at the moment. It does suck that Schaefer is an LD, but that could also mean we have more trade capital in the near future if Schaefer progresses faster than expected. Or we can convert some LDs to RD in LaCombe, Zell, or Hinds. All three have played exclusively RD with their junior or NCAA teams before going pro.

Top-10 drafted forwards in the Anaheim system since both rebuilds
  • 2019, 9th OA, C Zegras
  • 2021, 3rd OA, C McTavish
  • 2022, 5th OA, LW Cutter
  • 2023, 2nd OA, C Carlsson
  • 2024, 3rd OA, RW Sennecke

Top-10 drafted d-men in the Anaheim system since both rebuilds
  • 2022, 10th OA, LD Mintyukov
If the opportunity presents itself that Schaefer is available to us, then I hope we can draft him. We are relying late first round or later draft picks to populate our blueline. Not many teams are willing to trade young, top-4 defensive d-men. Anaheim would have to draft one and the likelihood of grabbing one of those is in the top-3.

Of course, we still have a lot of season left to see if Schaefer can continue to build up his resume to be the BPA.

Schaefer looks like a real gem, I see some of the same qualities as Sanderson but flashing more high end offense. Can't be disappointed if we land a D prospect of that caliber. The WJC could really be a coming out party for him
 

Zegs2sendhelp

HFBoards Sponsor
Sponsor
Jul 25, 2012
43,540
40,766
Fit factors in if it's equal or too close to call, but this org can't afford to pass on the more elite talent due to their fit with players who haven't proven to be elite. If tiers start to emerge in that top group as the year goes on, we want to get into the highest tier possible.

The other thing to consider when comparing them, is that Martone is a late bday guy and actually the same age as Sennecke, whereas Misa is a birth year younger than those two.
I'm liking all of the options to increase our forward scoring, but reading up on Schaefer by Brock has me wanting Schaefer. Here's what Brock summed up on Schaefer, "He has the chance to be a real defensive cornerstone and a potential Norris candidate. If the team picking first has a real need for a cornerstone on the back-end, Schaefer is going to be difficult to pass up."

Anaheim has a lot of OFD's on the squad and are lacking in potential NHL top-4 defensive d-men. The closest we have to that kind of d-man now are LaCombe and Minty, with LaCombe ahead of Minty defensively. Both are fringe middle pairing D at the moment. It does suck that Schaefer is an LD, but that could also mean we have more trade capital in the near future if Schaefer progresses faster than expected. Or we can convert some LDs to RD in LaCombe, Zell, or Hinds. All three have played exclusively RD with their junior or NCAA teams before going pro.

Top-10 drafted forwards in the Anaheim system since both rebuilds
  • 2019, 9th OA, C Zegras
  • 2021, 3rd OA, C McTavish
  • 2022, 5th OA, LW Cutter
  • 2023, 2nd OA, C Carlsson
  • 2024, 3rd OA, RW Sennecke

Top-10 drafted d-men in the Anaheim system since both rebuilds
  • 2022, 10th OA, LD Mintyukov
If the opportunity presents itself that Schaefer is available to us, then I hope we can draft him. We are relying late first round or later draft picks to populate our blueline. Not many teams are willing to trade young, top-4 defensive d-men. Anaheim would have to draft one and the likelihood of grabbing one of those is in the top-3.

Of course, we still have a lot of season left to see if Schaefer can continue to build up his resume to be the BPA.
I feel like Shaefer is going to end up going 1st overall…. Man imagine a team like the sharks get him.

Celebrini, smith, musty, eklund up from
Dickinson shaefer on back end with askarov in net
 
  • Like
Reactions: Anaheim4ever

AngelDuck

Rak 'em up
Jun 16, 2012
23,900
18,503
I feel like Shaefer is going to end up going 1st overall…. Man imagine a team like the sharks get him.

Celebrini, smith, musty, eklund up from
Dickinson shaefer on back end with askarov in net
That’s a team still a ways away from contention IMO
 

Anaheim4ever

Registered User
Jun 15, 2017
9,348
5,975
I'm starting to lean towards Misa which is definitely a flip from where I'd have it before.

Martone is an offensive beast with a chip on his shoulder, reminds of a prime Perry or a bit of a Brady Tkachuk vibe - really good player.

But it's not hard to see franchise center potential in Misa. Sort of similar to Celebrini where there isn't a notable weakness or really anything they don't do pretty damn well. Really high floor but also huge upside, can be a gritty two way 2C like a Kadri, Bennett type guy even if the offense isn't truly high end, but he's scoring a goal per game in the OHL at 17.




Yeah Misa is the perfect player for this team given they really could use a strong C behind Carlsson since McTavish and Zegras don't appear to be it and seem more suited for the wing. I saw on google that the Misa surname is not Italian but is Spanish, so he's Latino which is a perfect fit for Orange County. So if they end up with Misa I can use that to try to get some of my family members to go to Duck games lol.
I think I pick whoever is available to the Ducks where they pick whether it be Misa or Martone.
 

Anaheim4ever

Registered User
Jun 15, 2017
9,348
5,975
I feel like Shaefer is going to end up going 1st overall…. Man imagine a team like the sharks get him.

Celebrini, smith, musty, eklund up from
Dickinson shaefer on back end with askarov in net
They also got Shakir and Thrun on their blueline as well.

Schaefer/Shakir
Dickinson/Thrun
 

Hockey Duckie

Registered User
Jul 25, 2003
19,422
14,680
southern cal
Yeah Misa is the perfect player for this team given they really could use a strong C behind Carlsson since McTavish and Zegras don't appear to be it and seem more suited for the wing. I saw on google that the Misa surname is not Italian but is Spanish, so he's Latino which is a perfect fit for Orange County. So if they end up with Misa I can use that to try to get some of my family members to go to Duck games lol.
I think I pick whoever is available to the Ducks where they pick whether it be Misa or Martone.

Disney Star Wars connection too with Misa.

giphy.gif
 
  • Like
Reactions: Anaheim4ever

Rasp

Registered User
Apr 9, 2019
1,354
1,949
I feel like we have our eyes on Caleb Desnoyers based on where we should be picking (6-10).

6'2 two way centre who can play wing. Has a high hockey IQ and compete level coming out of the QMJHL. Feels like a guy both Madden and Verbeek will like.
 

Anaheim4ever

Registered User
Jun 15, 2017
9,348
5,975
I feel like we have our eyes on Caleb Desnoyers based on where we should be picking (6-10).

6'2 two way centre who can play wing. Has a high hockey IQ and compete level coming out of the QMJHL. Feels like a guy both Madden and Verbeek will like.
I keep misreading his name as 'Caleb Destroyers' and think that makes for an awesome nickname.
The Destroyer.
 

Hockey Duckie

Registered User
Jul 25, 2003
19,422
14,680
southern cal
I feel like we have our eyes on Caleb Desnoyers based on where we should be picking (6-10).

6'2 two way centre who can play wing. Has a high hockey IQ and compete level coming out of the QMJHL. Feels like a guy both Madden and Verbeek will like.

Another lanky kid at 176 lbs. He's putting up numbers in his draft year. Smaht Scouting does put somethings in perspective. Moncton is the best team in the Q.

Smaht Scouting - Dec. 10th: "The biggest question with Desnoyers is the upside. The role he plays for the Wildcats, being the focal point of the offense is not likely to be his role at the NHL level. The skill level, especially when it comes to handling the puck, is inconsistent and while his playmaking is good, it’s not the elite trait that would be needed to be able to cement him as a true top of the line prospect in the NHL draft."
 

Ad

Upcoming events

Ad

Ad