2025 NHL Entry Draft

2025 draft pick (not Hagens)

  • Roger McQueen (C)

  • Michael Misa (C/W)

  • Matthew Schaffer (LHD)

  • Ivan Ryabkin (C)

  • Porter Martone (RW)

  • Anton Frondell (C)

  • other (who?)


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Pompeius Magnus

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Listened to Pronman & Wheeler on The Athletic podcast while cycling back home tonight. Apparently, McQueen tweaked his back and has been dealing with this injury for a little while. Pronman said it isn't clear what the nature of the injury is. Something to keep in mind as the season goes along. If it's a hernia like Lindstrom, he's a DND in my opinion.

The conversation about McQueen is around 15:00-16:30 of the episode.


Tall players do tend to be more susceptible to those. Hope for the kid it's nothing that serious.
 
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Whitesnake

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I only want Misa and Schaefer. Let's go Kent. Make it happen....lol.

Frankly, TODAY, my pick is Schaefer. As much as I'd like a better C than Suzuki...I think Schaefer is just the BPA at this point....and if we now don't care if we go needs or needs...what do you need more...a true No1 great offensively and defensively, to protect yourself against Guhle/Reinbacher injuries? Or a true No1 C to make Suzuki a No2 C making it one of the best center line in the NHL.....Tough choice.
 

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At this rate it's going to be a top 3 of the three OHL studs, with Hagens considered a tier below. While the #1 lottery won't be as meaningful as the past two drafts, it's a good year to finish in the bottom few.
 
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BoneHutson

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Im team Misa! Jonathan Toews like center. Schaefer is great as well, but our D depth is great and the center line weak...

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Me too. I also think that Engstrom developing so nicely in Laval will make the habs brass more inclined to go C. If we pick first, go Misa as of rn. If we pick second and Misa goes first, then Id go Schaefer as I think he (and Misa) are a tier above Martone and Hagens. Still very early though
 
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Me too. I also think that Engstrom developing so nicely in Laval will make the habs brass more inclined to go C. If we pick first, go Misa as of rn. If we pick second and Misa goes first, then Id go Schaefer as I think he (and Misa) are a tier above Martone and Hagens. Still very early though
Im still high on Hagens personally, but I prefer Misa at that point, either ways I think we end up with a center...

Agree on Engstrom, he projects as a solid top 4 at that point.
 

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Dynamique play-driving forward, elite edges, and agility makes him extremely shifty with the puck off the rush, putting defenders in a turnstile he creates a lot of space to get his accurate wrist shot off.
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HuGort

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Listened to Pronman & Wheeler on The Athletic podcast while cycling back home tonight. Apparently, McQueen tweaked his back and has been dealing with this injury for a little while. Pronman said it isn't clear what the nature of the injury is. Something to keep in mind as the season goes along. If it's a hernia like Lindstrom, he's a DND in my opinion.

The conversation about McQueen is around 15:00-16:30 of the episode.


McQueen reminds too much of Kirby Dach. I would stay away. I am sick of injuries
 

Intangir

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McQueen reminds too much of Kirby Dach. I would stay away. I am sick of injuries

There is some of that. And even than, taking only their respective pre-draft profiles in consideration, I actually like Dach's draft-year showing more than I currently do McQueen.

McQueen has a better blend of size/reach/skating than Dach at the same age, and more room to grow into physically, but I don't like McQueen's off-puck play nearly as much as I did Kirby Dach's during his draft year.

And aside from a better shot/release on McQueen's part and slightly better grasp of holes in D-zone coverage to plunk himself in, I don't think his offensive skillset compares favorably to draft-year Dach as well, quite the contrary in fact.

Dach handled the puck better in his draft year, was way better battling along the boards or screening a goalie than McQueen currently is, more aggressive physically, passed the puck much better, and just read the play at a higher level overall I feel.

More pressing though, is that I find that in my showings McQueen failed to show consistently good anticipation of the play defensively even at the WHL level, and that to me is a major red flag in projecting him as a center at the NHL level.

Then there's also the fact that I saw McQueen get caught puck-watching and lose his man in more than one occasion when coverage needed to switch-around with a D partner. And that he similarly wasn't good at read/blocking passing lanes defensively in those games that I saw, another critical skill for a center-hopeful to have if he wants to ever be effective in that position at the NHL level.

All of that makes me seriously question whether or not McQueen will stick at center at the NHL level. Unless he improves massively in those areas (which to be fair he certainly could, and make me look foolish while doing it), I actually think he will be a winger in the pros rather than a center.

That's where I currently stand with McQueen. I had him higher in my top-10 to start the year, then watched him a bit more closely and just feel that some other players have elevated their draft positions a lot more than he has his.

I had McQueen at #6 to start the year, after Hagens, Martone, Misa, Schaefer. and Ryabkin.

Now I think I would have him #8 with Spence, Desnoyers, and Smith taking over (and Ryabkin similarly falling).

I'd say that out of this year's top-10 or so prospects, there are only 4 pure centers out of that bunch; Hagens, Misa, Desnoyers, and Frondell. The rest are wingers (Martone, Spence, McQueen, Eklund, Ryabkin) and 2 defensemen (Schaefer and Smith).

Those are the options for teams looking for centers high in the draft.
 
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NotProkofievian

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Im still high on Hagens personally, but I prefer Misa at that point, either ways I think we end up with a center...

Agree on Engstrom, he projects as a solid top 4 at that point.

Same. I'm still anchored by what I witnessed up close at the U18s, and Hagens was just too much for the competition. Too fast, skilled, smart, powerful. But Martone and Misa are lighting the OHL on fire at a clip that's making me, and not just me rethink things.
 

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