2025 NHL Entry Draft

2025 draft pick (not Hagens)

  • Roger McQueen (C)

  • Michael Misa (C/W)

  • Matthew Schaffer (LHD)

  • Ivan Ryabkin (C)

  • Porter Martone (RW)

  • Anton Frondell (C)

  • other (who?)


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Carter Amico is done for the year. Another big, right handed dman that this injury should cause him to fall and well worth a pick to grab him as a gamble.
 
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Goaltenders have a hard enough time as it is, trying to live down the reputation of being a little bit off. So what kind of sick, twisted parents would go out and name their kid Man's Goos???
 
Skating is horrendous.. maybe with a 2nd. Really no interesting tools there, either.
What do you think of Genborg? He's having good season.


Anyone watch him ?

Late birthday for the draft at September 1st, so he's, in a sense, a year behind a lot of the eligible players.

He's big at 6'5 and a right handed d. Currently isn't really ranked, so likely projected as an outside the top 64, so if the Habs can get another 2nd, I'd use that for a player like this. Assuming he's playing well on the ice.
Our 3rd maybe?
 
Porter Martone with 4 assists in Mississauga’s 5-3 win.

Matthew Schaefer with 3 assists in Erie’s 7-5 win over Saginaw.

Misa had a helper for the Spirit.
All 4 were primary assists. I was at that Barrie-Brampton game and had a chance to talk to Martone. I told him that I hoped to see him in a Habs jersey next year. He smiled and said thanks.
 
Misa has improved every season. He’ll be a top 3 pick for sure. He’s also two way Center and Habs love those players. Martone is what we lack in. His game is very Tkchuck like. Martone and Slafkovsky will help out Demidov and Caufield. Hagens I feel has unlimited skill. Very Jack Hughes like but right now he’s 5’10”. We have Caufield Hutson Newhook Gallagher etc. we aren’t build for the playoffs.
 
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If we end up out of the top 4 - you gotta think they'd be looking long and hard at Frondell and Desnoyers.

They have 2nd line center upside, with a left hand shot, but can also flex to the wing.
I think that realistically, unfortunately, the Habs will finish in the 5-10 range unless Montambeault gets abducted by aliens.

Desnoyers would be amazing as a consolation prize. He checks every box for the Habs : big, skilled centre de chez nous. He is RDS's dream come true. Probably the best québécois prospect since Alexis Lafrenière.
 
'sBehm with Calgary pick? Size, putting up good numbers

I have him as a DND until AT LEAST the middle-rounds personally.

I get that Behm has some size, some jam, some nice tools overall, but there are more interesting prospects available in the first couple rounds of the draft in my opinion.

And the reason for that low ranking despite some otherwise positive attributes is that Behm's skating is quite frankly extremely rough out there, perhaps too much so to be "fixed" and become workable in the NHL.

To add, I also think Behm shares a flaw of McCarron's in the way he seems to lose a lot more steam than he should when his presences on the ice get longer than, say, 30/35 seconds.

So that makes me think that Behm possibly compensates for horrible technique and skating mechanics by expending more energy/effort skating than others would, same issue as McCarron's, which would explain why Behm seemingly gets tired more quickly than other players whilst skating.

And If this is indeed the case then it would mean that Behm's skating issues are even worse than is immediately outwardly apparent, which of course would severely limit his potential in the NHL.

And the other possibility would be that Behm's disproportionately sharply-dropping level of play during extended shifts might be a case of cardio/conditioning not being in a good spot at all as things currently stand, which would be another "strike" on him in addition to the skating problems but of course much less crippling as a prospect than the other option.

Then we get into the final nail of this , the proverbial "third strike" if you will, and that is the lack of "+" tools in Behm's toolbox offensively if evaluated on NHL standards.

You can never discount someone entirely as development isn't linear and you never truly know until the cards are on the table and time has passed. But let's just say that I am not particularly enthused about Behm's potential in the NHL and leave it at that.

If we end up out of the top 4 - you gotta think they'd be looking long and hard at Frondell and Desnoyers.

They have 2nd line center upside, with a left hand shot, but can also flex to the wing.

If we look at our prospect pool and what we have at the NHL level, it's immediately apparent that our #1 need is just more talent on the top-6 and on defense, as well as time/opportunity for them to develop.

But we don't need talents equally; if we look more closely, our most immediate need in the top 6 is skilled playmaking and rush-ability as the Canadiens have arguably the worst rush-offense in the NHL right now.

Thing is, we've already drafted Demidov and Hage last year, who very much fit those needs in conjunction with what we already have.

Which means we need to look at secondary needs, and that would be talented two-way defensemen and defensively-responsible/gritty top 6 guys that are versatile.

Following that logic our management will most likely be looking at Desnoyers and Frondell very closely as they fit the versatility/defense/grit/talent needs we have very well, perhaps the best ouf of any of the other prospects available if we missed-out on the top-4.

But our management would definitely be looking at other guys too, the likes of Spence, Eklund, Smith, and McQueen most likely.

If they perceive a superior talent ultimately resides in, say, Eklund, then they should go for him despite him not really fitting the "grit/defensive play" criterion.

At this point of our rebuild, I believe that only on equal talent should our management go for needs/wants.
 
I have him as a DND until AT LEAST the middle-rounds personally.

I get that Behm has some size, some jam, some nice tools overall, but there are more interesting prospects available in the first couple rounds of the draft in my opinion.

And the reason for that low ranking despite some otherwise positive attributes is that Behm's skating is quite frankly extremely rough out there, perhaps too much so to be "fixed" and become workable in the NHL.

To add, I also think Behm shares a flaw of McCarron's in the way he seems to lose a lot more steam than he should when his presences on the ice get longer than, say, 30/35 seconds.

So that makes me think that Behm possibly compensates for horrible technique and skating mechanics by expending more energy/effort skating than others would, same issue as McCarron's, which would explain why Behm seemingly gets tired more quickly than other players whilst skating.

And If this is indeed the case then it would mean that Behm's skating issues are even worse than is immediately outwardly apparent, which of course would severely limit his potential in the NHL.

And the other possibility would be that Behm's disproportionately sharply-dropping level of play during extended shifts might be a case of cardio/conditioning not being in a good spot at all as things currently stand, which would be another "strike" on him in addition to the skating problems but of course much less crippling as a prospect than the other option.

Then we get into the final nail of this , the proverbial "third strike" if you will, and that is the lack of "+" tools in Behm's toolbox offensively if evaluated on NHL standards.

You can never discount someone entirely as development isn't linear and you never truly know until the cards are on the table and time has passed. But let's just say that I am not particularly enthused about Behm's potential in the NHL and leave it at that.



If we look at our prospect pool and what we have at the NHL level, it's immediately apparent that our #1 need is just more talent on the top-6 and on defense, as well as time/opportunity for them to develop.

But we don't need talents equally; if we look more closely, our most immediate need in the top 6 is skilled playmaking and rush-ability as the Canadiens have arguably the worst rush-offense in the NHL right now.

Thing is, we've already drafted Demidov and Hage last year, who very much fit those needs in conjunction with what we already have.

Which means we need to look at secondary needs, and that would be talented two-way defensemen and defensively-responsible/gritty top 6 guys that are versatile.

Following that logic our management will most likely be looking at Desnoyers and Frondell very closely as they fit the versatility/defense/grit/talent needs we have very well, perhaps the best ouf of any of the other prospects available if we missed-out on the top-4.

But our management would definitely be looking at other guys too, the likes of Spence, Eklund, Smith, and McQueen most likely.

If they perceive a superior talent ultimately resides in, say, Eklund, then they should go for him despite him not really fitting the "grit/defensive play" criterion.

At this point of our rebuild, I believe that only on equal talent should our management go for needs/wants.
What's your opinion of Genborg?
 
What's your opinion of Genborg?

I haven't seen much of Genborg. And what I did see was at the U18s for Sweden (where I was watching mostly for other prospects) and some J20 games from last year when he had a pretty minor role for his team.

Aside from that I have yet to watch him play in the J20 this season, and so I can't speak about his game with any kind of honesty and certainty.
 
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