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Bye Bye Blueston said:
U18s started today. US games are on NHL network. We beat Czechs in tight game. Several guys who could potentially be there for our late 1sts/early 2nd in action in this game. Some first day impressions:

Potter really wowed today. He is a brilliant skater who looked like most dangerous player on ice, although his goal was called back. Fiddler showed flashes, but he looks like he is still getting comfortable with how his feet work at times. McKinney looks like potential middle 6 center.

There are a few interesting Swedes, but just saw highlights of their game. Sweden-US on Friday should be interesting. Swedes are perhaps favorite to win this tourney.
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It's pretty crazy when kids are able to start NCAA at 17. Potter is interesting, and I don't ever want to overlook skill just based on size. But. At 5'10" (let's see what the Combine says) you wonder about picking the pure skill guy?

Wood wrecked the U18 also, and got 34pts in 35games in his young freshman NCAA year. And he's not trending all that well subsequently, despite being 6'4". Well, you have to treat every player as an individual, though. It's good to keep tabs on Potter, but he's going to have to do something more to really get me on board? :dunno:
 
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2025 NHL Mock Draft: Pronman projects all 32 first-round picks before the lottery

We don't have a draft order yet, but why should that stop us from doing our first mock of 2025?
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Pronman puts out his mock draft which i think has some really dumb picks for us.

Desnoyers at 3rd overall. I can deal with
Cootes (C) at 25th
West (C) at 30th

Really need to add 2 more centers to our pile of non-impressive center prospects pool - Surin, Edstrom, Nilsson, Svechkov, etc. Really need to add 2 more that could possibly top out in the middle 6 if things pan out. Definitely don't address our RHD depth of... Ufko, Gibson, ???

Hell he has Boumedienne and Fiddler being picked right 26 and 27th and Brzustewicz 31st. All of those fits out needs much better.
 
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herzausstein said:
www.nytimes.com

2025 NHL Mock Draft: Pronman projects all 32 first-round picks before the lottery

We don't have a draft order yet, but why should that stop us from doing our first mock of 2025?
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com

Pronman puts out his mock draft which i think has some really dumb picks for us.

Desnoyers at 3rd overall. I can deal with
Cootes (C) at 25th
West (C) at 30th

Really need to add 2 more centers to our pile of non-impressive center prospects pool - Surin, Edstrom, Nilsson, Svechkov, etc. Really need to add 2 more that could possibly top out in the middle 6 if things pan out. Definitely don't address our RHD depth of... Ufko, Gibson, ???

Hell he has Boumedienne and Fiddler being picked right 26 and 27th and Brzustewicz 31st. All of those fits out needs much better.
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If we pick third and take Desnoyers I am probably going to need therapy lol
 
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Top 6 Spaling said:
"He’s not flashy but makes a ton of plays and has a well-rounded game built for pro hockey"
🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

Is that David Legwand's music?
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The 30th overall pick amounts to "he's big and would be a project with decent upside as long as he doesn't decide somewhere down the road that he'd rather play football."

I've seen him ranked in the 2nd round so if we took him with our 2nd then sure. But with those dmen on the board and our current defensive pipeline... why

www.nhl.com

NHL Draft notebook: West to make decision on future sport before Combine | NHL.com

17-year-old center currently playing in USHL is also heavily recruited quarterback
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Porter Stoutheart said:
It's pretty crazy when kids are able to start NCAA at 17. Potter is interesting, and I don't ever want to overlook skill just based on size. But. At 5'10" (let's see what the Combine says) you wonder about picking the pure skill guy?

Wood wrecked the U18 also, and got 34pts in 35games in his young freshman NCAA year. And he's not trending all that well subsequently, despite being 6'4". Well, you have to treat every player as an individual, though. It's good to keep tabs on Potter, but he's going to have to do something more to really get me on board? :dunno:
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I don't care about stats at U18, as it's ridiculously small sample size. I am more focused on what skills they flash and chances they create. Potter was creating scoring chances all night against Czechs. His NCAA stats weren't great, but he was 1st or 2nd youngest player in country, I believe. Size makes him a risk, but exceptional skating mitigates it.

We have 3 1sts. He is kind of guy I'd take a swing at if he's still there with the 2nd of them. What is it that Trotz said about wanting guys who can take you out of seats, not safe picks?
 
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Top 6 Spaling said:
"He’s not flashy but makes a ton of plays and has a well-rounded game built for pro hockey"
🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

Is that David Legwand's music?
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desnoyers way more creative and dynamic than Legwand.

Desnoyers is the biggest riser in the 2nd part of the year, everyone pretty much now says he has the tools and upside to be a #1 C.

I'd take Desnoyers over Mcqueen, O Brien and Frondell rn
 
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AintLifeGrand said:
desnoyers way more creative and dynamic than Legwand.

Desnoyers is the biggest riser in the 2nd part of the year, everyone pretty much now says he has the tools and upside to be a #1 C.

I'd take Desnoyers over Mcqueen, O Brien and Frondell rn
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But not Martone or Misa one of which would be there at 3 or even 4. People on here seem to be underrating Martone
 
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I want a forward who's dynamic and makes those around him better. I don't think anyone is at this level but a guy like Kaprisov, who drives play and not only makes his line better but his team better.

I remember when Kariya signed here and watching the transformation in Legwand and Erat's games. It would great to draft a guy like that in the top 5. I know the names, I know some of the history but is there a guy we can get in the top 5 that's like this who's also a center?
 
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glenngineer said:
I want a forward who's dynamic and makes those around him better. I don't think anyone is at this level but a guy like Kaprisov, who drives play and not only makes his line better but his team better.

I remember when Kariya signed here and watching the transformation in Legwand and Erat's games. It would great to draft a guy like that in the top 5. I know the names, I know some of the history but is there a guy we can get in the top 5 that's like this who's also a center?
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I think Misa checks those boxes.
 
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Win the lottery: trade down one spot for some extra draft capital and draft Misa

Move up one spot in the lottery: pick Misa

Stay put in the lottery: this is the hard one. Hagens, Frondell, Desnoyers. I think the Preds go Frondell… Poile would have gone Hagens.

Move down in the lottery: take what’s available.
 
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The first 16 positions in the 2025 NHL Draft will be determined on either May 5 or May 6, TSN Hockey Insider Chris Johnston reports.

The draft lottery date will be finalized based the playoff schedule, Johnston clarified on Early Trading Tuesday.

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2025 NHL Draft Lottery to fall on May 5 or 6 | TSN

The first 16 positions in the 2025 NHL Draft will be determined on either May 5 or May 6, TSN Hockey Insider Chris Johnston reports. The draft lottery date will be finalized based the playoff schedule, Johnston clarified on Early Trading Tuesday.
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braindead said:
Win the lottery: trade down one spot for some extra draft capital and draft Misa

Move up one spot in the lottery: pick Misa

Stay put in the lottery: this is the hard one. Hagens, Frondell, Desnoyers. I think the Preds go Frondell… Poile would have gone Hagens.

Move down in the lottery: take what’s available.
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If we win the lottery you dont trade down even one spot. No reason to gamble plus San Jose probably knows we won't take Sheafer so why should they pay to move up
 
Porter Stoutheart said:
Except we probably would take Schaefer if nobody was willing to pay enough to move up. It wouldn't just be a bluff.
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I get that we haven't had true 1c, but this team needs foundational pieces at all positions going forward. We have some nice prospects who will contribute for us, but I'm not convinced ANY of them will be true core pieces and our best players are old enough that they likely won't be core when the wave of kids is ready to really contribute. We should take the best player on the board when it is our turn to pick at 1, 2, 3, whenever. We can get cute with later picks, but the first one we need to nail.
 
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My only problem with taking Schaefer is that we have had success drafting and turning later picked dmen into foundational 1st pairing dmen.
Weber 2nd round 49th OVA
Josi 2nd round 38th OVA
Ekholm 4th round 102 OVA
Ellis 1st round 11th OVA
Suter 1st round 7th OVA

We've never developed a top line center outside of legwand 1st round 2nd OVA. Everyone else we had to trade for (fisher, ryjo) or sign as a ufa (arnott, ror, etc). I just would prefer to go after the center position since who knows when we will be back in this position again. Schaefer is still a good pick though.
 
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herzausstein said:
My only problem with taking Schaefer is that we have had success drafting and turning later picked dmen into foundational 1st pairing dmen.
Weber 2nd round 49th OVA
Josi 2nd round 38th OVA
Ekholm 4th round 102 OVA
Ellis 1st round 11th OVA
Suter 1st round 7th OVA

We've never developed a top line center outside of legwand 1st round 2nd OVA. Everyone else we had to trade for (fisher, ryjo) or sign as a ufa (arnott, ror, etc). I just would prefer to go after the center position since who knows when we will be back in this position again. Schaefer is still a good pick though.
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My only problem with taking Schaefer #1OA is... there's like a 90% chance we won't draft #1OA. :sarcasm:
 
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herzausstein said:
My only problem with taking Schaefer is that we have had success drafting and turning later picked dmen into foundational 1st pairing dmen.
Weber 2nd round 49th OVA
Josi 2nd round 38th OVA
Ekholm 4th round 102 OVA
Ellis 1st round 11th OVA
Suter 1st round 7th OVA

We've never developed a top line center outside of legwand 1st round 2nd OVA. Everyone else we had to trade for (fisher, ryjo) or sign as a ufa (arnott, ror, etc). I just would prefer to go after the center position since who knows when we will be back in this position again. Schaefer is still a good pick though.
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While I agree those were all great picks but I mean on the same token, we have not nailed any of those guys (or others) in 15 years. I think our niche for hitting on dmen is a thing of the past personally. I’m all for that number 1 centre though as well.. we have desperately waited for…. ever lol
 
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Weber to Josi said:
While I agree those were all great picks but I mean on the same token, we have not nailed any of those guys (or others) in 15 years. I think our niche for hitting on dmen is a thing of the past personally. I’m all for that number 1 centre though as well we have desperately for…. ever lol
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I think that's more of a cause/effect of not drafting them that much. Since 2015 draft, we've picked exactly 1 dman in the 1st or 2nd round (Molendyk). We have a couple hits in there from the 4th and above like Carrier and come interesting prospects like Wilsby, Chystyakov, and ufko. But overwhelmingly, it hasn't been a focus of the drafting
 
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Has there been a dman in the past 20ish or so years that's gone 1OA that's been a franchise player? Dahlin is the only one who comes to mind but it's not as if he's turned Buffalo around. A 1C will have a greater impact on your team than a 1D. Go after Dmen with the later 1st round picks, go after a 1C if you have a top 3 pick.
 
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glenngineer said:
Has there been a dman in the past 20ish or so years that's gone 1OA that's been a franchise player? Dahlin is the only one who comes to mind but it's not as if he's turned Buffalo around. A 1C will have a greater impact on your team than a 1D. Go after Dmen with the later 1st round picks, go after a 1C if you have a top 3 pick.
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It’s relatively rare that defensemen go 1OA, but that doesn’t necessarily mean they shouldn’t. Makar and Pronger jump to mind as guys that should have gone first
 
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