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Pre-Game Talk: 2025 NHL Draft Thread

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DatDude44 said:
I really like Caleb Desnoyers.

Has some serious skill and offensive ability on top of a relentless dog on a bone mentality when pursuing the puck and plays with some p*** and vinegar, absolute prick to play against, our fanbase will love em lol.
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I would offer Kyrou for a pick to take him. I see that much of a difference maker. You can build around him for years. He was huge in the CHL US game no matter how it was played. Another Stevie Y.

If you could trade up for Caleb and get Carbonneau with your 2nd pick. We would have a strong core out of this draft. These two just GET it. Any type of game.
 
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PerryTurnbullfan said:
I would offer Kyrou for a pick to take him. I see that much of a difference maker. You can build around him for years. He was huge in the CHL US game no matter how it was played. Another Stevie Y.

If you could trade up for Caleb and get Carbonneau with your 2nd pick. We would have a strong core out of this draft. These two just GET it. Any type of game.
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No 2nd or 3rd rounder this year. They belong to the Oilers.
 
kimzey59 said:
Not sure Mrtka lasts until the teens.
With his physical package, he could easily go higher than expected(see Simashev and Silayev).
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Yeah, we'll see. Most of the rankings on elite prospects have him between 12-20.

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BlueMed said:
Yeah, we'll see. Most of the rankings on elite prospects have him between 12-20.

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Radim Mrtka - Stats, Contract, Salary & More

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And he's at that spot in the rankings with practically zero offensive numbers.
With the Thunderbirds(he left Czechia for the Seattle Thunderbirds this past week), he'll have a LOT more offensive opportunities(the T-Birds blueline is brutally bad). If he has an offensive surge, he's going to jump even higher in the rankings. Which, in his case, could have him easily inside the top 10(if not the top 5).
 
kimzey59 said:
And he's at that spot in the rankings with practically zero offensive numbers.
With the Thunderbirds(he left Czechia for the Seattle Thunderbirds this past week), he'll have a LOT more offensive opportunities(the T-Birds blueline is brutally bad). If he has an offensive surge, he's going to jump even higher in the rankings. Which, in his case, could have him easily inside the top 10(if not the top 5).
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That's totally possible. Like I said, we'll have to see what happens.
 
PerryTurnbullfan said:
I would offer Kyrou for a pick to take him. I see that much of a difference maker. You can build around him for years. He was huge in the CHL US game no matter how it was played. Another Stevie Y.

If you could trade up for Caleb and get Carbonneau with your 2nd pick. We would have a strong core out of this draft. These two just GET it. Any type of game.
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Not gonna disagree with you with the long term value there, but I don't think we trade kyrou for an 18 yr old right now unless that 18 year old is Matthew Schaefer. I think if we ever do move him, it's probably a year or two from now for a top pair D(when we have the internal kyrou replacements ready to go like Snuggerud) maybe theres something with Werenski if CBj continues to not make playoffs?

Maybe we can add something to our probable 16th pick to trade up for Desnoyers? But there might be something legit defensemen in the 10-16 range this year
 
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MortiestOfMortys said:
Wrong thread, but in a freaking heartbeat
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What's your reasoning? Knies is a great complimentary player but I don't see a play driver. He's been stapled to Marner and Matthews and still has significantly less p/gm than Kyrou who has been shuffled around and without elite talent. Knies has room to grow but I don't see him ever being a gamebreaker. Kyrou while inconsistent has that ability.

Contract and age leans toward Knies now, but he'll need a new deal and will get more expensive next year. If you bridge him, you just kick the can down the road for the big pay increase.

For me, we need elite gamebreakers. Kyrous flashes of that, to me, is worth more than Knies solid play. But maybe you see something more in him.
 
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Majorityof1 said:
What's your reasoning? Knies is a great complimentary player but I don't see a play driver. He's been stapled to Marner and Matthews and still has significantly less p/gm than Kyrou who has been shuffled around and without elite talent. Knies has room to grow but ai don't see him ever being a gamebreaker. Kyrou while inconsistent has that ability.

Contract and age leans toward Knies now, but he'll need a new deal and will get more expensive next year. If you bridge him, you just kick the can down the road for the big pay increase.

For me, we need elite gamebreakers. Kyrous flashes of that, to me, is worth more than Knies solid play. But maybe you see something more in him.
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Nah. We need less offensive players and more grindy players. That will absolutely help us with our terrible offensive play this year.
 
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SirPaste said:
Marner? Didn't he recently finish in the top 10 in selke voting?
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He was a finalist, 3rd place, year before last. He still got votes last year but was hurt by a good Selke year for Matthews who was a finalist. By no metric is Marner defensively irresponsible except the he's not big and physical so without ever watching him I'll assume he's bad at D metric. That one is notoriously faulty
 
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Marner was scapegoated by Leafs fans after having a rough stretch in the playoffs last season. He was great for them the prior postseason, >PPG. He's also a solid two-way player.

The reputation he has is purely because of Leafs fans doing what they do best and that's dragging their own players when they lose.
 
Snubbed4Vezina said:
Marner was scapegoated by Leafs fans after having a rough stretch in the playoffs last season. He was great for them the prior postseason, >PPG. He's also a solid two-way player.

The reputation he has is purely because of Leafs fans doing what they do best and that's dragging their own players when they lose.
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I mean, isn’t that every fanbase? Great regular season player but I’ve watched a lot of Leafs playoff games and Marner has been horrible when the ice gets smaller and more contested.
 
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Marner is an incredible hockey player. He's insanely elusive with the puck, makes some unbelievable passes, and is highly competitive. Leafs fans are out to lunch when they complain about him. He's one of the most complete players in the league. He just doesn't run guys through the boards so he gets shit on like ROR did in Buffalo, when we all saw what a huge impact he had here defensively without being ultra physical. Like yeah, he scores a bit less in the playoffs, but the playoffs are against the best teams in the league. Almost everyone scores less in the playoffs.
 
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