2025 NHL DRAFT Thread

[Kevin Musto]

Who is Howard?

Isaac Howard

He's not signing with Tampa so they're going to trade his rights

 

[Kevin Musto]

 

[dj Mahoney]

This pretty much CEMENTS out pick !!!!!!! Hopefully Kyle and Co. grab some large human's (with grit & talent) with all our remaining picks in this draft. Welcome to CHICAGO Caleb . Desnoyers looks like he could be Marc Andre Fleury's Son .

 

[Kevin Musto]

This pretty much CEMENTS out pick !!!!!!! Hopefully Kyle and Co. grab some large human's (with grit & talent) with all our remaining picks in this draft. Welcome to CHICAGO Caleb . Desnoyers looks like he could be Marc Andre Fleury's Son .

Still gotta get through the combine

Also doesn't account for movement of the pick

Nothing is set in stone right now

 

[TheFridge]

Nothing about the pick is cemented. We have no idea who they like or don't like at #3.

 

[featherhawk]

it was obvious Caleb was playing injured

there are good reasons to pick a number of guys at 3 besides misa/shaefer if they are gone...each have pros and cons.

be interesting to see what the hawks do

martone
desnoyers
hagens
frondell

 

[Kevin Musto]

Nothing about the pick is cemented. We have no idea who they like or don't like at #3.

According to Scott Powers, we know that they at least like Misa (provided he's available), Frondell, Desnoyers, and Martone.

That could change of course, but it does give us something to go off of.

 

[Crow]

According to Scott Powers, we know that they at least like Misa (provided he's available), Frondell, Desnoyers, and Martone.

That could change of course, but it does give us something to go off of.

No mention of Hagens at all?

I feel like they should put that out there even if it’s not true to try to influence the islanders to take him #1 to prevent them from trading with someone 4-7

 

[featherhawk]

No mention of Hagens at all?

I feel like they should put that out there even if it’s not true to try to influence the islanders to take him #1 to prevent them from trading with someone 4-7

would be shocked if the hawks are NOT considering Hagens...

he may be the most talented offensive player in the draft and lets not forget that the 2024 U20 National team included Hagens, Moore, Nazar and Rinzel...

Not saying I would take him just because of that however it is something to consider, clearly they already know each other very well and have established relationships.

Imagine Hagens dishing out passes for Bedard and others to snipe

 

[eklund2chicago]

He's a much better playmaker and probably the highest compete in this draft class.

Imo, I see Hagens as a top line center. I'm not too worried about his size and see him as a Kane/Hughes type.

Misa is see more as either a good first line center or an elite second line center on a playoff team. His stats are a little over blown compared to Hagens who was playing against older players.
Misa's high end is Pat LaFontaine, while his floor is a second line Matty Beniers type altho I'm higher on Misa then beniers, who is closer to a one year wonder bust then somebody you need to win playoff games.

There's alot to like about both, but I think Hagens is the more talented of the two. I'm also not buying into the media burial of Hagens who was completely on another level when playing against players his own age while still managed a ppg against players older then him. Anybody using that against him is stupid. If he stays in college another year he will dominate it.

I like Hagens but ”highest compete in this draft” is crazy. I wouldn’t say it’s a standout trait at all of his. Just at the top of my head you have Eklund, Misa, Bear, Desnoyers and Frondell who competes harder than Hagens among the forwards who are predicted to get drafted in the top 15.

I wouldn't dislike it but I just don't think 25OA gets it done for Howard. Only because there are so many teams with multiple 1sts that could be offered to Tampa for him. I think it's going to take more when you look at the market and what other teams would have to offer.

It’s not going to take more than 25 to get Howard, atleast not a lot. Everyone knows that he won’t sign with Tampa and despite his great season he’s still a small winger who’s yet to prove himself playing professional hockey. I would trade the 25th pick for him in a heartbeat though.

According to Scott Powers, we know that they at least like Misa (provided he's available), Frondell, Desnoyers, and Martone.

That could change of course, but it does give us something to go off of.

Where did he say that they likes those guys? Not saying that you are wrong, just like to read the article.

 

[Kevin Musto]

No mention of Hagens at all?

I feel like they should put that out there even if it’s not true to try to influence the islanders to take him #1 to prevent them from trading with someone 4-7

Yeah we discussed it a fair bit when Powers put up the article.

It's a weird omission.

He showed almost no growth at all over the course of the season, so that could be why.

People like Cam Robinson have also said they wouldn't be shocked if Hagens fell to around 8 on draft night. I think that was in response to Button having Hagens at 8. I guess there must be some chatter from some organizations that aren't as high on him.

Where did he say that they likes those guys? Not saying that you are wrong, just like to read the article.

I'll see if I can find it. I feel like it was a month ago now.

 

[eklund2chicago]

Yeah we discussed it a fair bit when Powers put up the article.

It's a weird omission.

He showed almost no growth at all over the course of the season, so that could be why.

People like Cam Robinson have also said they wouldn't be shocked if Hagens fell to around 8 on draft night. I think that was in response to Button having Hagens at 8. I guess there must be some chatter from some organizations that aren't as high on him.

I'll see if I can find it. I feel like it was a month ago now.

The only one I can find from him regarding the draft is this one

Blackhawks get another crack at drafting elite forward with No. 3 pick in 2025 NHL Draft

We don't know their name, but thanks to the results of Monday's NHL Draft Lottery, we know what position the Blackhawks will likely pick.

t.co

But it doesn’t include anything about the hawks liking certain players

 

[Kevin Musto]

@eklund2chicago

So there are these two articles

Blackhawks and NHL Draft Lottery: Everything you need to know

The Blackhawks will find out their 2025 NHL Draft position on Monday. Here's a rundown of what's at stake and the players they could take.

www.nytimes.com

Blackhawks get another crack at drafting elite forward with No. 3 pick in 2025 NHL Draft

We don't know their name, but thanks to the results of Monday's NHL Draft Lottery, we know what position the Blackhawks will likely pick.

www.nytimes.com

Though after re-reading them, they honestly come across more as speculation based on what Powers is hearing from his colleagues rather than from the Blackhawks specifically.

Unless there's a different article that I'm unable to find, we'll have to wait for closer to the draft when Powers might actually know (like with Levshunov).

 

[Sinbad]

My one thought is that a clear match in Nashville has 23 which obviously trumps 25. Both teams have a fairly strong history of trades, so I believe theirs is the one offer we would have to get creative to beat.

As soon as Tampa starts asking for a 1st I would hang up. Let someone overpay for Howard.

 

[Toews2Bickell]

Roumeliotis kind've hinted at the Blashill press conference that Hawks fans should pay more attention to Desnoyers and Frondell and not Hagens and Martone when it comes to the Hawks

 

[Toews2Bickell]

As soon as Tampa starts asking for a 1st I would hang up. Let someone overpay for Howard.

pick 34?

 

[eklund2chicago]

@eklund2chicago

So there are these two articles

Blackhawks and NHL Draft Lottery: Everything you need to know

The Blackhawks will find out their 2025 NHL Draft position on Monday. Here's a rundown of what's at stake and the players they could take.

www.nytimes.com

Blackhawks get another crack at drafting elite forward with No. 3 pick in 2025 NHL Draft

We don't know their name, but thanks to the results of Monday's NHL Draft Lottery, we know what position the Blackhawks will likely pick.

www.nytimes.com

Though after re-reading them, they honestly come across more as speculation based on what Powers is hearing from his colleagues rather than from the Blackhawks specifically.

Unless there's a different article that I'm unable to find, we'll have to wait for closer to the draft when Powers might actually know (like with Levshunov).

The thing is that I remember that I’d read something by Powers like a month ago regarding that hawks likes specific players so maybe he changed the article? Or there was another one and he’d deleted it. Or maybe it’s the Mandela effect.

 

[Kevin Musto]

The thing is that I remember that I’d read something by Powers like a month ago regarding that hawks likes specific players so maybe he changed the article? Or there was another one and he’d deleted it. Or maybe it’s the Mandela effect.

Haha that's what's tripping me up too.

I could've sworn there was something.

 

[Sinbad]

He plays with Lardis and Vanacker and yet his name has never come up once among Hawks insiders

If they liked him that much, I feel like we'd know

One thing that often tips a team’s interest in certain players is when their scouts are continually seen at the player’s games, that could be overlooked in O’Brien’s case since the Hawks scouts would already be closely monitoring Lardis and Vanacker’s progress.

 

[Kevin Musto]

Roumeliotis kind've hinted at the Blashill press conference that Hawks fans should pay more attention to Desnoyers and Frondell and not Hagens and Martone when it comes to the Hawks

that video is here for those that want to see it

 

[dj Mahoney]

Pronman compares Caleb to Hischier (He's about 65 points a year) on the most recent podcast on the Athletic . 2 way high character Center , seems to be a fit in Kyle's plans.

 

[Toews2Bickell]

Pronman compares Caleb to Hischier (He's about 65 points a year) on the most recent podcast on the Athletic . 2 way high character Center , seems to be a fit in Kyle's plans.

Nazar-Bedard
Desnoyers-2026 1st

Could get behind it...ideally Nazar and Desnoyers are 65-70 point centers that can play a really good two way game and it would allow Bedard and another high end offense first forward to be your game breaking 100 point players. The Toews/Kane recipe that worked in a lot of important games during the cup runs.

 

[Toews2Bickell]

One thing that often tips a team’s interest in certain players is when their scouts are continually seen at the player’s games, that could be overlooked in O’Brien’s case since the Hawks scouts would already be closely monitoring Lardis and Vanacker’s progress.

Have there been any players they've (upper management) scouted in-person this spring. IIRC during the Dach year they were at a lot of his playoff games.

 

[Sinbad]

Nazar-Bedard
Desnoyers-2026 1st

Could get behind it...ideally Nazar and Desnoyers are 65-70 point centers that can play a really good two way game and it would allow Bedard and another high end offense first forward to be your game breaking 100 point players. The Toews/Kane recipe that worked in a lot of important games during the cup runs.

How about this:

McKenna - Bedard
Desnoyers - Nazar

I am going to try and speak it into existence!

 

[Toews2Bickell]

How about this:

McKenna - Bedard
Desnoyers - Nazar

I am going to try and speak it into existence!

bring McKenna home