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2025 NHL DRAFT Thread

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Kevin Musto said:
I don't think it's a red flag.

He's the smartest player in the draft by a long shot. You don't fail with that kind of IQ.

But he'll be comparable to Dylan Strome, with a little more physicality.

That's a good player, just not the kind KD is looking for.
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Martone is definitely more physical than Strome. That kid goes to the net, drops the gloves, hits, goes to the corners etc. Dylan rarely to ever did any of those in junior. Although I think Strome was the better offensive talent coming out than Martone.
 
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Hattrick Kane said:
SAN JOSE WINS! Alright boys, let’s keep up those positive vibes, we’re almost in last place!
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Going to be a nailbiter. Look at the Remaining Strength of Schedule:
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giza said:
When you think about what KD has drafted, his focus on skating, speed, motor and some skill......Misa at #2 is the no-brainer. If the Hawks end up picking 3rd or 4th, then it gets interesting and I can see him going big....Martone or McQueen. I don't think he goes Euro with those slots.
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Hopefully they go with brains also. Speed is nice but not everyone has to be like that. And I think Hawks has made some mistakes with focusing so much on speed in drafting. I wouldn´t rule out those Euro players as a option.

Let´s not forget that these young players do develop. You can get faster and better skater just like Ryan Donato did as a 28 old player. Scouts try to figure out how much these young players can develop and what is their ceiling and that is the hardest part of it. If they believe that Martone can become faster and better skater they might like him a lot.
 
I think Hagens would be a nice consolidation prize if we don't get Misa. Is this what
most of the board agrees with ?

Strengths​

  • Skating, agility and edgework
  • Elite playmaking vision
  • High-end skill and creativity
  • Strong puck control and skills
  • Major threat off the rush

Under Construction- Improvements to Make​

  • Size may put some teams off as a centre
  • Decision-making, forcing plays can hinder game at times
  • Regain scoring touch
 
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We already know that Schaefer an Misa would be the first 2 rankings on the Hawks list of top 4..

However at #3or#4 should Hawks land in one of those spots after lotto I have Caleb Desnoyers at#3 but could still see KD risking the potential for Roger McQueen or Jake O'Brien because their ceilings coukd be higher ..With McQueen they need to do a medical risk assessment for injury history but the potential impact of a Big center at 6'5 with skill and physicality coukd be a risk they want to bet on..not for just what he is now bit what he could be 3-4 years out ..Given that he only played 18 regular season games in his draft season out so long with his injury,the scouts will be watching hid playoff performance for Brandon now closely ...Hard to know if hevhas yet had enough tone to shake off all the rust yet so that he can dominate in the payoffs...we shall see...and though hecalready has the sizevto pkay with the pros in the NHL now (as opposed to Drsnoyers or O'Brien who both aren't but lanky and need to add 15 to 20lbs of mass to their 170s frames ,tge fact McQueen missed so many games of devekopmentvtome should mean he needs next sesson back i juniors too...neithervof thse 3 are next year fixes for KD but will need more development .
But projecting 3-4 years McQueen coukd be 6"5 225 = a Draisaitl load for the opps to handle ..and that possible impact Big C is what all NHL teams drool over..
So I can see KD and the Hawks taking that risk of a short draft year viewing assessment time frame and considering where other rankibgs in a "consensus " put him in this draft.

In any case I cannot see the Hawks taking another undersized center (Hagens ...especislky considering Hagens did not have the imoact Celebrinibdid in his freshman season ...this despite Hagens pkayingvwith thec#1team inNCAA hockey and playing on thevtop linearity Leonardcamd Perraukt till mod January when Boston College mixed up their top 2lines and put Hagens with 2 other wingers...Still Hagens should have put up more points andespecially and more goals than he has...so given he sort of has blown his privileged situation witb BC ,I think his final rankibg should be falling..

With Desnoyers you know what you are getting..a very good all round 2 way center ...great compete level...good skater though he coukdcadd more explosion ifvhe adds more mass and gets stronger...that should happen with tinefir further development...goodvoace...good usevofbkibemates and playmaking...goid off puck habits ,a bit of physical edgevtjough with more weight on his frame that too could be better..Hevisxa mid volume shooter but a high accuracy and efficient shooter ..Good off tge rish and I transitions..greatcdefebsive ability to check and seal off exits and neutral zone attacks by the opos..Defense leading to offense etc...
There is so much to likebin his overall game and work habits.. Maybe not a top gunner ...but doesvhavexa 2 tiger and can pick corners..In short he seems a safe bet for at 2C ceiling but maybe not a top 10-15 inpoints leading #1 CENTER in the NHL but a solid top 10 -15 2C type projection driving a 2nd line ..maybe a Toews like 2 way 65 -70 pts and +25 kind of NHL impact once he enters the Show.

The offensive ceilings may be higher with McQueen and O'Brien.
I have noticed in recent games McQueen is dominating in faceoffs...but only a small sample...O'Brien is about 50% for the season ...Desnoyers was 58.3% for his regular season...
Misa I believe isxabovev53%..

Have to see what they all do in playoffs....but Schaefer Misa... then 1 of Drsnoyers McQueen Or O'Brien should fill out the 3-5 soits in a fival rabking..Hagens in my view has dropped out of a top 5 ...especially for a team like the Hawks with already 2 shrimps the top 6 and more shrimps coning ...gotta add sone 6'1 to 6'5 centers and wingers .
 
unbridledid said:
I think Hagens would be a nice consolidation prize if we don't get Misa. Is this what
most of the board agrees with ?

Strengths​

  • Skating, agility and edgework
  • Elite playmaking vision
  • High-end skill and creativity
  • Strong puck control and skills
  • Major threat off the rush

Under Construction- Improvements to Make​

  • Size may put some teams off as a centre
  • Decision-making, forcing plays can hinder game at times
  • Regain scoring touch
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I liked him at the WJC´s. I see him as someone who would think the game like Bedard does. Being more of a playmaker they could become deadly combo at least in PP. I have no issue if Hawks pick him.
 
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Mjul Qvist said:
I liked him at the WJC´s. I see him as someone who would think the game like Bedard does. Being more of a playmaker they could become deadly combo at least in PP. I have no issue if Hawks pick him.
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Yea I agree with this. I really think Hagens and Bedard can compliment each other really nicely. James seems to be able to enter the zone and carry the puck with a bit more speed than Bedard. Hagens can soften up the d a bit and look to create a little time and space for 98.
 
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Hoping for draft lottery luck once again…Hoping for Michael Misa and Ivan Ryabkin…

Years past to present and first rounders
2005-06 finished 28th overall drafted Toews
2006-07…26th drafted Kane
2007-08…20th drafted Beach
2008-09…6th drafted Olsen
*2009-10…3rd drafted Hayes
2010-11…13th drafted McNeill, Danault
2011-12…10th drafted Teravainen
*2012-13…1st drafted Hartman
2013-14…7th drafted Schmaltz
*2014-15…7th none
2015-16…5th none
2016-17…3rd drafted Jokiharju
2017-18…25th drafted Boqvist, Beaudin
2018-19…20th drafted Dach
2019-20…23rd drafted Reichel
2020-21…21st drafted Allan

Davidson Era
2021-22…27th drafted Korchinski, Nazar, Rinzel
2022-23…30th drafted Bedard, Moore
2023-24…31st drafted Levshunov, Boisvert, Vanacker
2024-25…31st so far…drafted Misa, Ryabkin??
 
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If the rumours online that Ryabkin isn't very coachable are true, the Hawks will have him on their DND list I would assume.
 
I’ve seen many state they hope we don’t get first pick this year, (so we could possibly get next years first) but will we even be bad enough to get a number 1 pick?
 
Question: would a case like this be considered winning the lottery, and ruling us out to winning it again in 26? I assume yes, since we would be jumping the Sharks, but maybe someone knows for sure?
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LavalPhantom said:
Question: would a case like this be considered winning the lottery, and ruling us out to winning it again in 26? I assume yes, since we would be jumping the Sharks, but maybe someone knows for sure?
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No.

If we finish last and we draft 1st, it doesn't count as moving up. If we finish 2nd last and draft 2nd, it doesn't count as moving up. It does not matter what movements occur for other teams. If we don't move up from where we are before the draft lottery, it won't count against us.
 
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x Tame Impala said:
All but guaranteed a top 4 pick this year. GREAT. McKenna or not I really hope we’re not this shitty next season. Bedard + Lev + Schaefer/Misa/the other guys should be enough.
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I don’t know why people are so desperate to accelerate the rebuild before we’re ready to take the next step. We will and should be a bottom five team next year. Bedard+Lev+this years pick MIGHT be enough but the 2026 draft is looking pretty great as of now so there’s no need to rush things when we clearly aren’t ready yet.

No matter what KD does this summer we are realistically going to be a bad team next year as well and people should be fine with that as long as the younger players continue to develop.

Knight and Söderblom is a pretty exciting goalie duo but neither of them have ever played a lot of games in the league.

Vlasic, Murphy, some new vet D and three of Lev, Edm, Allan, Crevier , Korchinski and Söderström is an exciting d-core but it’s not good.

Bertuzzi-Bedard-FA signing
Mikheyev-Donato-Teravainen
Reichel-Nazar-Dach
Veleno-Dickinson-Foligno

This is a pretty likely forward core. Maybe they sign another forward and maybe it will include Michael Misa. Either way, this team will and should be bad next season and then the following year it’s time to take the next step. Have patience. When we hopefully compete for the cup in 4-5 years you will be grateful that we sucked for an extra year so that we could get McKenna, Verhoeff or Roobroeck.
 
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x Tame Impala said:
All but guaranteed a top 4 pick this year. GREAT. McKenna or not I really hope we’re not this shitty next season. Bedard + Lev + Schaefer/Misa/the other guys should be enough.
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Prepare to be disappointed...we will be shitty enough next year to be right in the middle of McKenna lottery. Schaefer/Misa ...Schaefer is just 17, plays D and missed almost the entire season any one of which would be enough for him not to sniff the NHL next year (but combined makes it highly unlikely) while Misa shouldn't be in the NHL either (and even if he is...at 18 "success" would be surviving and putting up 40-50 pts which is not moving the needle).

Put it this way....you could give the Hawks first three dibs on ANY free agents....Marner, Taveres and whatever D (because our D will be plenty of growing pains again without a short term add) and we would still struglle to make the playoffs. In a rapid increasing cap where everyone has money, the Hawks will not be getting the pick of the liter in free agency.
 
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TLEH said:
Its funny because this is the year I think I would prefer to draft 2nd more than anything. Not a lottery move up and I really don't love what I've seen from Hagens this year. But I also don't want to win the lottery either lol. I'm comfortable with Misa/Schaefer and just prefer to take whoever the lottery winner doesn't.
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Yup.

There isn't enough of a difference between Schaefer and Misa to lose out on a chance at McKenna.

But mostly likely Chicago falls to 3/4.
 
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