I suspect Lev's ceiling is more of a #2 and more likely to end up a #3 than a #1. I would LOVE to be wrong and Lev develop into a true #1. Worst case you use another high draft pick on a D you end up with two #1 type D which is an awesome problem to have.
2025 NHL Draft Thread
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Sacha BOXviert
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Schaefer will probably be chosen in the top3. Martone is a year older, I wouldn't be surprised if he dropped to the top6
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Connor BeJesus
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Alot of these kids are old for the class. Martone, McQueen, Spence, etc. I doubt it'll stop teams/scouts from picking them.
dreadpirateroberts
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Just like Levshunov, Demidov etc. were in this years draft glass.
CallMeShaft
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Interesting piece from this article is that Wheeler compares his current list of prospects for 2025 to that of the players selected at the same spot this year. He has Lev beating out Frondel (his current pick for #2 in 2025).
Most realistic hope is tgat Hawks go to 73-77u points ...so probably 5th -7th pre-lotto...but what happens if they get lucky and rise to #2 or #1pre-lotto?
Hawks do not need more smaller centers.. so if a team desperately wants Hagens or Frondell or Ryabkin at #1or#2Hawks shoukd trade it down to get what they need=big power wingers (Martone or McQueen...IF Hawks stay put and end up drafting only 5th to 7thwith no lotto win,it coukd turn into a Schaefer or Hensler dman pick should the big power forwards be off the board..What else can you do...unless a goalie goes off that early ?
The bigger question is how high will Hawks finish in 25/26 season? This is because If Hawks are still a lotto team they get a chance at #1or#2again if finish no hogher that 11rhvor 12th pre-lotto ..If they get a move up to #2I would trade it up to #1of I could..I woukd obviously offer the #2and tge entire rest of our draft to get #1 in 2026 and I would throw in our #1for 2027 to get that top maker.. obviously Ethan Bellchetz ( the #1pick in the 2024 OHL draft ) tge stud LWwho is already 6'4 230 lbs and a talented dominating player ) If we do not get tge #1or#2pick in 2026 via lotto we probably draft 12th-16th by then . But maybe if we offered the lotto winner for#1our entire 2026 and 2027 drafts they might go for it..?That mich draftvcapital foec1 suoer star Big dominant pkayer coukd helotgecworst teamstockiple tton of talent depth in a quicker time that it usually takes a re-build.
Alas we can only dream..
Hawks do not need more smaller centers.. so if a team desperately wants Hagens or Frondell or Ryabkin at #1or#2Hawks shoukd trade it down to get what they need=big power wingers (Martone or McQueen...IF Hawks stay put and end up drafting only 5th to 7thwith no lotto win,it coukd turn into a Schaefer or Hensler dman pick should the big power forwards be off the board..What else can you do...unless a goalie goes off that early ?
The bigger question is how high will Hawks finish in 25/26 season? This is because If Hawks are still a lotto team they get a chance at #1or#2again if finish no hogher that 11rhvor 12th pre-lotto ..If they get a move up to #2I would trade it up to #1of I could..I woukd obviously offer the #2and tge entire rest of our draft to get #1 in 2026 and I would throw in our #1for 2027 to get that top maker.. obviously Ethan Bellchetz ( the #1pick in the 2024 OHL draft ) tge stud LWwho is already 6'4 230 lbs and a talented dominating player ) If we do not get tge #1or#2pick in 2026 via lotto we probably draft 12th-16th by then . But maybe if we offered the lotto winner for#1our entire 2026 and 2027 drafts they might go for it..?That mich draftvcapital foec1 suoer star Big dominant pkayer coukd helotgecworst teamstockiple tton of talent depth in a quicker time that it usually takes a re-build.
Alas we can only dream..
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Ace Card Bedard
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A much deeper top 10 off the bat this year hawks should yet another good one this year you guys have a chance to get a 1st line stud wingman for Bedard, a potential play driving 1c to play 2c role behind Bedard or round out the defense with another high end potential top pairing guy to go with lev, korchinski, vlasic, rinzel, Allen and etc... Hawks management will probably pick up another first by deadline if they are out by then or they may very well squeak in with the new vet additions I could imagine hall, Jones and potentially Dickinson could be used as assets by TDL time for teams looking to bolster their squad for a playoff run.
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'25 draft extra 1st already from a TDL moving McCabe/Lafferty
'24 draft an extra 1st from TDL move of Hagel
'23 draft an extra first from TDL moving of Hagel
Becasue the TDL move does not net a 1st in the next draft does not mean the Hawks have not been making the moves for 1st in future drafts. Assuming we end up with ONLY the two 1st this next drafts, we'll have made TEN 1st round picks in the last four drafts
Beukeboom Fan
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Agree that Hall is very likely on the move at the deadline. I'd be surprised if Dickinson was moved because he would still have an extra year on his deal and the Hawks paid a pretty significant "salary bonus" to get him to resign with a shit team - so he's pretty significantly overpaid for his likely production. It's HIGHLY unlikely that Jones moves because he would have 5+ years left on his contract and while I don't think his contract is as bad as some others do, it's unlikely a contender has enough cap room to add him long term without retention, which the Hawks aren't going to want to do for that long a contract.
There is absolutely no reason the Hawks can/should not retain on any contract that only runs through next season like Dickinson's to maximize any potential trade. Hawks have roughly 35 million in cap space for next Summer with deals coming off the books and the expected increase in the cap. We are built to be adding 2-3 ELC rookies into the lineup each year for several to come.
pvr
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Every permutation of salary and trade should already be considered and mapped by Kyle from Chicago covering the next three seasons, with more expected fluidity the farther out from this season.
I dont think the original poster meant that we'd be trading an asset for a 2027 first
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More physically ready despite same size better away from the puck than Hughes although a really good skater not on the same level and the vision and skill isn't as high end still a solid number 1 potential pick but is he an rnh or a Mackinnon
Chuck Testa
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MacKinnon is better than Hughes.
Hughes is better than RNH.
So will Hagens meet the standard of MacKinnon or will he be more of a Hughes or an RNH?
It's more of a question on where he falls on the floor vs ceiling compared to previous no. 1s
