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Guys you don't trade your 1st round pick, especially what will likely be another top-10 pick, in the McKenna draft. You just don't do it.
I'll bet a lot of money that Schaeffer won't be in the NHL, and Misa probably won't either. Martone I could see as he has the size, but more than likely no one from the draft plays in the NHL next year.It's possible I'm wearing my rose colored glasses. I think that the Hawks have too many players playing above where they should be and Nazar, a big free agent, and 2 top 4 picks would change that. We may sign a big fish - we may not. But neither you nor I can say that they definitley won't.
I'd be willing to bet that Misa, Martone, and Schaeffer play in the NHL next year. Hagens might stay in college for another year but we'll see about that. I'm not saying they'll contend for a cup nor even make the playoffs but I'm confident they'll be outside the bottom 5.
But back to the original point. When has a GM ever traded a top 4 pick for an unprotected 1st the next year? No matter how bad that team appears to be.
I guess we'll have to let time play this one out.I'll bet a lot of money that Schaeffer won't be in the NHL, and Misa probably won't either. Martone I could see as he has the size, but more than likely no one from the draft plays in the NHL next year.
Not really....Schaefer will be 17 when training camps open and will have just turned 18 when the NHL season starts. Celebrini, Bedard, Carlsson, Fantilli, and Benson are the only forwards in the last 2 draft classes to go from the draft floor to playing most NHL games that season. The odds are real long for any player much less a barely 18 year old D man even playing in the NHL and even less of actually being impactful enough to change the fortunes of a bottom feeder.I guess we'll have to let time play this one out.
Yeah you'd definitely have to add a bit to the 2026 unprotected 1st. Probably 2026 unprotected 1st + Leafs 1st round pick + our 2025 2nd round pick. I know the cost is high, but that's the price to take a shot at a guy like Michael Misa or James HagensI don't think it should be unpopular. I mean think about it. If you have 4th OA in 25, based on the trajectory of the Hawks, would you think there's a chance that they're picking nearly that high the next year? I know they're bad right now but I'd be shocked if they're near the top 5 in 26.
So I don't think any GM in the league would pass on any of those 4 players for a crazy chance at McKenna the next year.
If Blackhawks get lucky and land the #1ova in 2025 draft I would draft Matthew Schaefer and not think twice. He is like a hybrid of Cale Makar and Quinn Hughes and will be a legit #1 Dman star. Kid has it all size 6'2, 185. edges, speed, puck handling Hockey IQ, and he isn't just a puck moving elite skater he is very good defensively. If Blackhawks could pare the Toronto 2025 1st and 2026 1st to move back into top 4 I would do it. Its time to hit the gas
Not really....Schaefer will be 17 when training camps open and will have just turned 18 when the NHL season starts. Celebrini, Bedard, Carlsson, Fantilli, and Benson are the only forwards in the last 2 draft classes to go from the draft floor to playing most NHL games that season. The odds are real long for any player much less a barely 18 year old D man even playing in the NHL and even less of actually being impactful enough to change the fortunes of a bottom feeder.
I agree with the sentiment. But look at it from the other side. Would you trade let's say Misa or Hagens for a pick that MIGHT be McKenna or MIGHT end up like 14th the next season?There are a lot of posts the last page or so that make me very happy the authors are not actually the GM of the Hawks.
You don't trade away a pick that could potentially become McKenna. End of story.
I would put #1 ova protection on it. It would have to be hell of an overpay though to get into top 4 again so its really just for fun and not based on realityI agree with the sentiment. But look at it from the other side. Would you trade let's say Misa or Hagens for a pick that MIGHT be McKenna or MIGHT end up like 14th the next season?
I would lean toward 50/50 on that hypothetical being a bottom 5 team. I don't see either of Misa or Martone being impactful NHL players next season...you would be lucky if either played 12-14 sheltered minutes a game and put up 30-40 points and both would be better served dominating junior hockey another season.I was thinking that if this scenario played out, the Hawks would end up with 2 of the forwards. Going into last year's draft, I felt that Celebrini was the only guy who would play pro the next year and in 23, I felt that all the guys in the top 3 could. I didn't anticipate Benson being one of them. Going into this year, I feel like Misa and Martone could realistically play in the NHL next year and Schaeffer just might. Dahlin did it in 18 and Ekblad in 14.
Now you're right - neither of them had franchise altering impacts in their rookie season. And I know you don't think the Hawks will sign a major free agent. But the draft is before free agency and GMs don't know what players will be added until after.
So do you think that adding Rantanen, Misa, Martone, Nazar, Dach, Slaggert, Korchinski, and Levshunov to this roster would not be enough to get them out of bottom 5 territory?
Bedard really made people think wacky about this teams timeline, not only Hawk fans but fans of other teams as well.I'm not sure why people are/were expecting this team to be anything but dog shit 2-3 years into the rebuild. This is at least a 5 year process. This isn't Football, where you can draft guys and they immediately make a high impact.
Love Martone. He's my favorite so far.
Hagens is the better player, Martone is the better fit (at least imo)Could be the perfect linemate for Bedard. Like him better than Hagens. There, I said it.
Define enough assets.Unpopular opinion; Hawks should trade their unprotected 2026 1st round pick + enough assets to land the 4th oa pick so we can scoop the faller between Hagens, Schaefer, Martone, and Misa. That would land us 2/4 elite talents in this draft and we can finally have incentive to put together a competent team for next year
I need you to understand that none of these forwards are guaranteed elite talents.Unpopular opinion; Hawks should trade their unprotected 2026 1st round pick + enough assets to land the 4th oa pick so we can scoop the faller between Hagens, Schaefer, Martone, and Misa. That would land us 2/4 elite talents in this draft and we can finally have incentive to put together a competent team for next year
trading unprotected 1sts in a rebuild is usually a terrible idea, and McKenna is in 26 draftYeah you'd definitely have to add a bit to the 2026 unprotected 1st. Probably 2026 unprotected 1st + Leafs 1st round pick + our 2025 2nd round pick. I know the cost is high, but that's the price to take a shot at a guy like Michael Misa or James Hagens