HF Habs: 2025 NHL Draft: Part II

[Kennerback]

Easy to look at weight and height or speed to analyse a player.

But I am curious to read you guys about the smart players who will be available between 15th and lets say..25th cause the smartest is the one to pick and not a big tall dumb player...

Not necessarily players I would pick for other reasons, but Reschny and Kindel are smart players.

 

[crosbyshow]

Not necessarily players I would pick for other reasons, but Reschny and Kindel are smart players.

It s exactly the 2 players I want at 16th and 17th cause you know what..they are so smart in the ice.

Cole Reschny...jeez:

 

[Nevins]

The Habs must select a center with the sixteenth draft pick. O ‘Brien and Martin will no longer be available. remains Cole Reschny, Braeden Cootes and Jack Nesbit but when I observe them, Reschny has in my opinion the best Qi Hockey of the 3 ,the offensive skills and he really plays like a center that prepares play. And, according to the Stats of the Combne, he measures 5'10.5 ''. It would be my choice.

 

[crosbyshow]

Down the road Reschny will be in the top 5 best player of this draft in the years to come like Suzuki in his draft...Iq, hands, vision.

the dude is the One to pick at 16th

 

[WeThreeKings]

I will say that its not so easy to identify who has the best hockey IQ, especially if they're highly skilled. As you go up levels the gap between their IQ and the IQ of other players lessens more and more.

People thought Drouin, myself included, had high hockey IQ because he was able to manipulate so much on the ice with his high skill level. I think we can all agree that Drouins hockey IQ in the NHL is average at best.

 

[crosbyshow]

I will say that its not so easy to identify who has the best hockey IQ, especially if they're highly skilled. As you go up levels the gap between their IQ and the IQ of other players lessens more and more.

People thought Drouin, myself included, had high hockey IQ because he was able to manipulate so much on the ice with his high skill level. I think we can all agree that Drouins hockey IQ in the NHL is average at best.

Yep but it stîll the most important thing to look at for a prospect.

Unfortunately, fans scouts and Gm put a lot more focus on size and speed

 

[VirginiaMtlExpat]

Who has the best IQ that will be available at 16th ?

́pcik him.
.no matter his size, speed etc....always pick the smartest player... always.

Suzuki was 5.11 slow like a turtle..at 13th...but...so smart.

That's Reschny for me. That's what I mean by using the fMRI scan along with classical hockey metrics to decide.

 

[TheBuriedHab]

Prokhorov definitely fits the mold of player I'd like to see on the opposite wing of Demidov in the future. A big 6'5 power forward that scores, skates well, has a very good down low game and crashes and bangs. His hands in tight are much better than I thought. Him being Russian is also just a nice bonus.

Was not on my radar at 16 but if they went this way, I wouldn't complain.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

I've been around HF for long enough to remember the whole Justin Jokinen situation. I'm very weary of those magic prospects that look amazing of a few videos against inferior, much smaller competition. I'd need to know a lot more about that Prokhorov kid before I get excited.

 

[WeThreeKings]

I've been around HF for long enough to remember the whole Justin Jokinen situation. I'm very weary of those magic prospects that look amazing of a few videos against inferior, much smaller competition. I'd need to know a lot more about that Prokhorov kid before I get excited.

I like him a lot but teens is such a massive reach.

 

[TheBuriedHab]

For those wondering Pronman had Prokhorov ranked 23rd in his rankings like a month or 2 ago so he seemingly was already creeping his way up the rankings.

 

[le_sean]

Don’t think Reschny is a Bobrov/Gorton type of pick. Go back to their days with the Rangers, they just rarely pick skilled 5’10 guys, especially in the 1st round. Leave that to the Sabres, who keep floundering because of it.

They tried it with Mesar and look how that turned out. Either they boom or they are useless. I think Bobrov and the gang know we have a good core. Now it’s to add sure-fire players that compliment them.

Guys like Spence, Hensler, Lakovic are more their type.

 

[TheBuriedHab]

Don’t think Reschny is a Bobrov/Gorton type of pick. Go back to their days with the Rangers, they just rarely pick skilled 5’10 guys, especially in the 1st round. Leave that to the Sabres, who keep floundering because of it.

I love Reschny, but I agree, I don't see Bobrov and Gorton taking him. Same reason why I had 0 doubts the Habs weren't taking Catton last year. I like Reschny a lot more than Catton though.

 

[Doublechin]

There's a non zero chance he'll still be around by the time the third round starts. It would be quite the reach, as much as the kid is legit interesting. But scouts always get real excited when they see a jumbo size prospect with a decent tool set, I get it.

Way higher odds he goes around 15 than the third round, the recent crop of Russians/Belarusian big players that are now with the Jackets and the Caps have opened eyes and teams will try and land the next big Russian winger.

He's also first round quality, I think 12 is high but with the forever fascination of size, who knows

 

[Doublechin]

I love Reschny, but I agree, I don't see Bobrov and Gorton taking him. Same reason why I had 0 doubts the Habs weren't taking Catton last year. I like Reschny a lot more than Catton though.

Im not concerned with size with Reschny, I've seen too many bulky 5'11 guys make it to make size a concern.

5'10 1/2 160 isn't the same as 185, at 185 at his age that tells me he might be 200/205 as a pro, at that weight, he will do more than fine.

I'm taking him at 16/17 if my scouts feel his game translates as a center at the pros. The IQ, skill and complete game plus the way he carried himself through out the season is gravy

Going to North Dakota next year is also a plus.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

Way higher odds he goes around 15 than the third round, the recent crop of Russians/Belarusian big players that are now with the Jackets and the Caps have opened eyes and teams will try and land the next big Russian winger.

He's also first round quality, I think 12 is high but with the forever fascination of size, who knows

The counter argument would be that you can find more established, better scouted and already in NA size if that's what you're looking for, in a Lakovic or a Nestrasil for example. Prokhorov is one of the 90 guys at the combine right now, so he's at the very least in the overall early rounds picture. Time will tell, I might be proven completely wrong in the end, it would certainly not be the first time !

 

[Nicko999]

If he is there at our earlier 2nd rounder, we need to take a chance on him. He is a project but upside is top 15 in this draft.

 

[themilosh]

If he is there at our earlier 2nd rounder, we need to take a chance on him. He is a project but upside is top 15 in this draft.

The 2nd rd of draftees should "never" be chip and a chair - that's 3rd rnd.

1st round: should be inherently identifiable for needs. If Pro Scouts cannot produce this then they should be fired. Why? What else are they being paid for? Enough of this "so-called" you never know. Pathetic.

2nd round: these are draftees that fit the mould but have a few deficiencies in their game. Enter the development program of said club. If our dev prog can produce, then we should be able to identify which prospects will respond.

3rd round (and higher): take a chance on those players who are moulded in your club culture, hope they respond to development.

4th +: complete crap shoot.. draft huge bottom 6 all in skill. Hope for luck.

 

[montreal]

If he is there at our earlier 2nd rounder, we need to take a chance on him. He is a project but upside is top 15 in this draft.

I expect him to go in the 1st round, GM's love to overdraft size and this kid is huge.

 

[Nicko999]

The 2nd rd of draftees should "never" be chip and a chair - that's 3rd rnd.

1st round: should be inherently identifiable for needs. If Pro Scouts cannot produce this then they should be fired. Why? What else are they being paid for? Enough of this "so-called" you never know. Pathetic.

2nd round: these are draftees that fit the mould but have a few deficiencies in their game. Enter the development program of said club. If our dev prog can produce, then we should be able to identify which prospects will respond.

3rd round (and higher): take a chance on those players who are moulded in your club culture, hope they respond to development.

4th +: complete crap shoot.. draft huge bottom 6 all in skill. Hope for luck.

First round picks should never be for needs. Always BPA. By the time the player is ready for the NHL in 2-3 years, your needs might be completely different.

 

[Habs Halifax]

First round picks should never be for needs. Always BPA. By the time the player is ready for the NHL in 2-3 years, your needs might be completely different.

BPA if it's obvious. However, it's not always obvious and teams are quit often picking in a waive of talent.

 

[Team_Spirit]

 

[Favster]

I will say that its not so easy to identify who has the best hockey IQ, especially if they're highly skilled. As you go up levels the gap between their IQ and the IQ of other players lessens more and more.

People thought Drouin, myself included, had high hockey IQ because he was able to manipulate so much on the ice with his high skill level. I think we can all agree that Drouins hockey IQ in the NHL is average at best.

Yup this is a very good point. Same thing applied to Galchenyuk, I thought his IQ was amazing when he was with the sting. I was wrong

 

[Gustave]

BPA if it's obvious. However, it's not always obvious and teams are quit often picking in a waive of talent.

Also, you have to consider if your org has things in spades, ie; Sabres with LD’s and small sized soft skilled forwards. At some point they would need to foray into the « needs » category.

Look at us; we are in need of a high number of top 6 physical players. We never replaced what a Gallagher was for us in the top 6 for example and our right side of the D is a barren land of corpses with no replacements for a Subban/Weber/Petry equivalent.

BPA exists when you have a complete make up, which we do not have in this phase of the rebuild.

 

[Habs Icing]

Prokhorov definitely fits the mold of player I'd like to see on the opposite wing of Demidov in the future. A big 6'5 power forward that scores, skates well, has a very good down low game and crashes and bangs. His hands in tight are much better than I thought. Him being Russian is also just a nice bonus.

Was not on my radar at 16 but if they went this way, I wouldn't complain.

We may have that player, and he's two years into his development. Florian Zhekaj.