HF Habs: 2025 NHL Draft: Part II
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Both those guys are LHD i think. I always had Pareck (RHD) ahead of Buium, but i had Dickinson top 5 solid lock.. he must have faltered in the interview stage.
I like Reschny a lot, and wouldn't be afraid to take him with one of our 1sts at all. I think he develops better at NCAA level. It's a step up.
I think from his last half of season and playoffs he's ready for another step in level.
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Yes he blew up. If you think he's a C then he is a great pick 10-20. UND develops tenacious guys... and he seems to have a bit of that. If that side of his game develops, he could end up being a great pick.
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LHD often drop.. and become very good value. Cam Fowler is a great example but it happens in most draft years. All teams need RHD.
Aitcheson will be interesting this year... He might go higher than expected because of his toughness.
I could see guys like Reid and Beaumedienne being crazy value at some point... and some of the smaller wingers too... Brustewicz will go high
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What you guys think of Nesbitt??
Definitely a project... but it's a very nice package of skills and grit...
He would check so many boxes if Bobby thinks he is "magical unicorn" enough...
You would want to trade down a bit but he probably goes pretty close to where we are picking.
I'm not sold... a lot of things to develop... lacking a bit of urgency
Definitely a project... but it's a very nice package of skills and grit...
He would check so many boxes if Bobby thinks he is "magical unicorn" enough...
You would want to trade down a bit but he probably goes pretty close to where we are picking.
I'm not sold... a lot of things to develop... lacking a bit of urgency
don't like his skating, don't like his hand-eye/processing time. in a year where he's a 2nd rounder maybe but i don't see first round value there.
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I've seen a fair amount of him in the past 2 years, he might be the OHL’s most improved player in 24-25, it's really night and day from his rookie season. The potential for a well rounded power game with a decent amount of skill behind it is definitely intriguing. If he can maintain that upward development curve for a while, he could really become something. The skating still needs some work, though, but it's already nowhere near as bad as it was last year. I wouldn't go mid-first with him, but late first/very early second he's good value. He's still fairly raw.
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I think you'd have to be okay with a Bjugstad outcome there. I don't see skills at the level of say a Cootes
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Highly doubt it. He looked better in the last game. I've held the opinion that Frondell and Desnoyers are going 3-4 for a while now.
Really tough to predict after the top 2. I think Hagens and Martone still are considered in the Same tier and O’Brien is the Kind of big center who will be in demand. McQueen is a huge gamble but one team may decide he is worth it like Lindstrom last year….
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I don't understand the fixation with Aitcheson on this board. The absolute last thing we need other than a goalie in the first round is a risky LHD with questionable IQ and average at best skating.
Give me Hensler over Aitcheson all day as he is bigger and a far superior skater with a higher IQ, better transition game and a RHD to top it off.
People are way too focused on stats and forget that Hensler may very well have produced a lot in the OHL and Aitcheson may not have produced any more than Hensler on an offensively inept team at Wisconsin.
I have seen a lot of Aitcheson live (likely more than anyone on this board) and he has some serious warts and may very well be a Dumba lite which is not good. He does have some real upside but he mostly lives off of his great shot and the occasional open ice hit. Most games that I saw he was somewhat physical but not dominant. Shift by shift he doesn't consistently make a physical impact and his offence is almost exclusively based on his shot and he can not create space like Hensler can nor does he defend anywhere near as well as Hensler. Aitcheson is raw and makes plenty of strange decisions but I do like him and think that he belongs in the 15-25 range.
I don't think people realize how great of a skater that Hensler is as he is elite. He looks very much like a slam dunk as a middle pairing two way dman with the potential to be a top pairing guy if everything breaks well for him.
My pipe dream is to come away from this draft with Brady Martin and Logan Hensler as well as another two big forwards with our next two picks. We may need to move up to get Martin and quite possibly Hensler but I am all about moving some picks/prospects to get it done.
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Logan Hensler will be a very very good option aswell, I'm a fan of his game. (I would be happy with him too).
But that's why young players need a great develop to become their best version of themself.
Yeah, Aitcheson isn't perfect, but his qualities are easily perfect for NHL level.
When I look prospect, I don't really see their bad sides, I see what he can become in 5 years with their tools. Aitcheson tools are special and if he develop well, he can be a force. I'm not high on his stats, I know that he will not produce high at NHL level. But he will put more than stats to me, that's why we call that type of players "unicorn".
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I agree with you there.
I'll preface this by admitting to also liking Aitcheson and thinking he definitely belongs in the 15-25ish range, but I feel like some fans need to pump the brakes a little. I also didn't see the unicorn a lot of people claim him to be. Like any prospect in that range, he's got some warts.
There's a lot to like (great shot, plays with an edge, always shows up) but then also a good deal of counter balance of frustrating aspects in his game. On top of his average skating, he can be caught flatfooted or daydreaming on defense which puts him in bad situations. There are moments when he seems to want to be too much of a hero and can also get overly excited which leads to puck chasing and hit attempts that put him way off-position. He's chaotic for good, but also bad reasons.
Hensler isn't as fun at first glance and has a more conservative game, but he's got poise and has a sound game. I like him better than Aitcheson. But there's one thing with Hensler that bothers me a bit though.
With the skills and brain he's got, I feel like more than often he could do much more on the ice. I don't know if he's straight up scared to make mistakes but he nearly always makes the safest choice and refrains himself from fully using his skillset which could unlock a greater offensive dimension to his game. I can understand doing so to contain fires on that awful Wisconsin team, but I've had that impression at every level I've seen him on now. But that could just be some wishful thinking on my part for him.
Based on a few games/videos I've watched this year and reading a lot of scouting reports from different agencies/organizations.
- Matthew Schaefer
- Michael Misa
- Anton Frondell
- Jake O'Brien
- Radim Mrtka
- Victor Eklund
- James Hagens
- Caleb Desnoyers
- Porter Martone
- Brady Martin
- Jack Nesbitt
- Cole Reschny
- Kashawn Aitchenson
- Logan Hensler
- Jackson Smith
- Carter Bear
- Vaclav Nestrasil
- Blake Fiddler
- Braeden Cootes
- Roger McQueen
- Cameron Reid
- Jack Murtagh
- Lynden Lakovic
- Justin Carbonneau
- Ben Kindel
- Ivan Ryabkin
- Sascha Boumedienne
- Cullen Potter
- Milton Gastrin
- Malcolm Spence
- Ryker Lee
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These guys are debating Bear vs Lakovic and I have the same opinion. Bear is a cant miss, very high floor, but limited celling, you are looking at a solid middle 6 energy guy IMO.
Lakovic grew up quite a few inches since his WHL draft day, had consistency issue, but ended the year strong showing better use of his frame, higher compete ect. Upside with this kid is pretty high.
I must admit that I only watched him near the end of the season, but I liked him alot in all my viewings.
I got 2 games recorded on my hard drive, Ill do a shift to shift, my only one this year and post it before the draft.
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KevSkillz4
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If one of both are available, Habs need to draft one of two.
They are both great value at 16. They should easily go in 12-15 range.
Although I don’t think we keep both picks, I’m fairly comfortable with guys projected in our range
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These 2 are on top of my forwards list should they fall at 16 and 17 (I hate them higher than that).
Gotta love Bear's all around versatility. And while he's got no elite trait, he's good at damn near everything in my opinion. I also believe that his game has plenty of room left to grow and he could benefit from working with a skills coach, mainly improving his deception and learning how to use his shot more efficiently as I find that he tends to try to shoot through defenders sometimes rather than find shooting lanes.
And while I share some of people's concerns in regards to Lakovic's lack of constant physicality and engagement, I think it's due to still trying to figure out his overall game rather than laziness. And if he had that in his game already on top of his mix of fluid skating, handling skills, offensive instinct and playmaking reads, then he'd easily go anywhere in the top 10.
If he figures out how to use his body on a constant basis and clean up a bit of the forced offensive plays, then I really like what could be the finished product.
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