HF Habs: 2025 NHL Draft: Part II

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Sure. But those 2 guys are likely the exception, not the rule. At the end of Savard and during the Houle era the Habs picked lots of guys who had everything else but lacked skating and they mostly all busted and nobody was a really good player. See Mark Pederson, Terry Ryan, Eric Chouinard, Jason Ward.

Fine with taking a flyer with a late 1st or in later rounds , like Jason Robertson at 39thOA, but unless it's a goalie I'm not using a top 10 pick on a bad skater. Game is played on the ice.
Back when the Habs held their rookie camp in Verdun I remember that's where I got my first look at Pederson and I couldn't believe that was our first round pick. The guy could barely skate.
 
Back when the Habs held their rookie camp in Verdun I remember that's where I got my first look at Pederson and I couldn't believe that was our first round pick. The guy could barely skate.
Lol. I know. Announcers kept saying he was deadly from the blueline in, the problem was everywhere else.

They really didn't value skating, always saying it will come. And the 18 ,19 year old was expected to figure it out on his own. Not so much.
 

Would anyone take him with a 7th ?

Goes to a new team and gets up to almost a ppg, granted in a small sample size, but he's a big, heavy boi.
I would Take a flyer on him yes

Would love to get my hands on Bear and/or Desnoyers. We could definitely use one or both of these players in our prospect pool along with another good defence prospect (Mrtka/Hensler/Fiddler)
I have Fiddler higher than Cootes and Spence. Due to position he plays and his size. If I got a center with our pick I would take Fiddler with Calgary's

I seen Cootes and Spence as third line players. They generally easy to acquire, rather than spend a mid first round pick on them.
 
I would Take a flyer on him yes


I have Fiddler higher than Cootes and Spence. Due to position he plays and his size. If I got a center with our pick I would take Fiddler with Calgary's

I seen Cootes and Spence as third line players. They generally easy to acquire, rather than spend a mid first round pick on them.

Mid first round pick this year is going to get you a third line or a 4/5 D. It's just not that deep.

I'd love to get Cootes or Spence because they are middle 6ers with jam, pace, they can play the game anyway it needs to be played and you can never go wrong having those guys in the system.
 
Mid first round pick this year is going to get you a third line or a 4/5 D. It's just not that deep.

I'd love to get Cootes or Spence because they are middle 6ers with jam, pace, they can play the game anyway it needs to be played and you can never go wrong having those guys in the system.
They are but big mobile right D are valuable and shyer than hens teeth. Bottom 6 forwards are usually easy to find
 
I wonder why Bob has him 15th on his mid season list? Quite the riser from the 2021 WHL draft (6 round and 132 OA).



Newhook type?
If he'd be Newhook, I wouldn't like him. Bear has actual real hockey IQ sense. His brain is actually in sync with his skating.
 
If he'd be Newhook, I wouldn't like him. Bear has actual real hockey IQ sense. His brain is actually in sync with his skating.

I was a big fan of Newhook pre-draft.

Bear is one to pay attention too. Bob has him 15th but you and others say he is a top 10 pick. Will be interesting to see where he lands on the popular lists the closer we get to the draft.

I do like shooters that can score! 36 goals in 44 games. Decent size/weight at his age
 
I wonder why Bob has him 15th on his mid season list? Quite the riser from the 2021 WHL draft (6 round and 132 OA).



Newhook type?
Not the same type of player.

Hard to find a comparable but if I absolutely have to name one, I’d say Lehkonen but at 6’ and with much better offensive talent, shot, vision and skills, his backhand shot is so good. I say Lehkonen as an example because he has some tenacity and grit in him, he doesn’t lose many battles.
 
A guy I don't want top 10....it's Hensler. There's no way he's top 10 UNLESS.....RIGHT D-MAN OH MY GOD!!!!! Hensler top 10 is needs way more than BPA. His ceiling is so low but his floor is NHL. But we did that with Reinbacher. No way we do that with Hensler.
 
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A guy I don't want top 10....it's Hensler. There's no way he's top 10 UNLESS.....RIGHT D-MAN OH MY GOD!!!!! Hensler top 10 is needs way more than BPA. His ceiling is so low but his floor is NHL. But we did that with Reinbacher. No way we do that with Hensler.

Reinbacher and Hensler aren't in the same league.

Hensler has no top 10 hype at all and he isn't going to get any.
 

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