2025 NHL Draft: Lose a ton for Porter Martone

[Grinner]

There is a thread about the value of Charlie McAvoy. If we got 1st OA and Bruins land in the 3-5 range, I'd be willing to swap 1sts. I think we are looking pretty good on the Left. If we could get a veteran RHD with another good 7 years in him, I'd be pretty happy.

Has that trade been suggested? I cannot see Boston fans being to eager

 

[Patty Ice]

Has that trade been suggested? I cannot see Boston fans being to eager

Let's find out!

 

[Grinner]

Let's find out!

 

[YUPPY]

theres always a reason to draft centers with top six potential

I would rather keep both Smith and Misa but If it comes down to a choice, one possible route could be to draft Misa and consider leveraging Will Smith in a trade package for an established, high-end defenseman. The team is still in need of a reliable, top-pairing blue liner (i.e Luke Hughes ), and Smith could have the value to bring that in return. If the Sharks can manage to pry Luke Hughes away from the Devils. Not of course, 1 on 1 trade, sharks need to add something else to sweeten the deal.

 

[Barrie22]

I would rather keep both Smith and Misa but If it comes down to a choice, one possible route could be to draft Misa and consider leveraging Will Smith in a trade package for an established, high-end defenseman. The team is still in need of a reliable, top-pairing blue liner (i.e Luke Hughes ), and Smith could have the value to bring that in return. If the Sharks can manage to pry Luke Hughes away from the Devils. Not of course, 1 on 1 trade, sharks need to add something else to sweeten the deal.

We are in no pisition to be trading away our only 3rd nhl caliber player to shore up the defense. Strengthening 1 hole and weakening another is just 1 step forward 1 step back in the same trade.

 

[Eklund72]

I would rather keep both Smith and Misa but If it comes down to a choice, one possible route could be to draft Misa and consider leveraging Will Smith in a trade package for an established, high-end defenseman. The team is still in need of a reliable, top-pairing blue liner (i.e Luke Hughes ), and Smith could have the value to bring that in return. If the Sharks can manage to pry Luke Hughes away from the Devils. Not of course, 1 on 1 trade, sharks need to add something else to sweeten the deal.

There are just so many reasons to not trade smith. It’s not happening lol

 

[The McMafia]

There is a thread about the value of Charlie McAvoy. If we got 1st OA and Bruins land in the 3-5 range, I'd be willing to swap 1sts. I think we are looking pretty good on the Left. If we could get a veteran RHD with another good 7 years in him, I'd be pretty happy.

I would only consider trading down if the Sharks end up picking third after the lottery. Schaefer or Misa would be huge gets.

 

[dmcccdmn]

So close. Just 1 more loss or 1 more point and we're golden. Excited about this draft.

 

[stator]

There is a thread about the value of Charlie McAvoy. If we got 1st OA and Bruins land in the 3-5 range, I'd be willing to swap 1sts. I think we are looking pretty good on the Left. If we could get a veteran RHD with another good 7 years in him, I'd be pretty happy.

I don't see this happening if the Sharks have 1OA. They'll just take Schaefer. McAvoy is pricey at $9.5M cap hit, and he only has two seasons with 70 or more games played. Doesn't seem too durable.

 

[Roasted Nuts]

Now that the sharks have basically secured the last place finished, our next hope is that both Dallas and Ottawa lose in the first round in order to get the highest possible pick (#23 and 40?)

 

[mogambomoroo]

As a player type McAvoy would be perfect fit for this team and 9.5 mil will be a steal in couple of years, but his injury history is a red flag and the trading value is too high for the Sharks right now. If Bruins are trading him for a Thornton 2005 price, then why not? (I mean it's almost 20 year anniversary of that trade)

 

[Shark Finn]

As a player type McAvoy would be perfect fit for this team and 9.5 mil will be a steal in couple of years, but his injury history is a red flag and the trading value is too high for the Sharks right now. If Bruins are trading him for a Thornton 2005 price, then why not? (I mean it's almost 20 year anniversary of that trade)

I'm thinking Bruins retool on the fly and stick with the Pastrnak-McAvoy-Swayman trio for the time being. They already made some good moves on TDL, are poised for a lottery pick and have a ton of cap space.

 

[rsteen]

There is a thread about the value of Charlie McAvoy. If we got 1st OA and Bruins land in the 3-5 range, I'd be willing to swap 1sts. I think we are looking pretty good on the Left. If we could get a veteran RHD with another good 7 years in him, I'd be pretty happy.

The Bruins need a C prospect more than they need Schaefer. They draft Frondell/Hagens/Desnoyers in that range, the Sharks draft Schaefer. McAvoy has a full NMC anyway.

 

[matt trick]

Now that the sharks have basically secured the last place finished, our next hope is that both Dallas and Ottawa lose in the first round in order to get the highest possible pick (#23 and 40?)

53rd for Ott currently (playoff teams draft 49-64 in the 2nd), we're rooting for Montreal, NJ, Stl, Min to pass them, or to make conference finals. Best case scenario is 49, but Montreal and NJ passing is unlikely. MIN and STL could.

For DAL we want them and division winners (WPG, Vegas, WSH, and Toronto) missing the conference finals. I think 25 is best possible for DAL. Also, Ottawa may give up their first this year (must this year or next) which would bump both picks up one slot.

*Believe reverse draft order is: champ, finalist, conference finalists (by points), division winners (by points), remaining teams (by points).

 

[Juxtaposer]

Colorado upsetting Dallas in the first round is the best case scenario for both the Dallas pick being as high as possible as well as the 5th from the Blackwood trade potentially becoming a 4th if Colorado makes the third round. Colorado making the WCF would probably mean that they had to beat Winnipeg too, which would help the Dallas pick. We are all Avs fans for the first two rounds of this playoff. And rooting against Wasington, Vegas, and Toronto (which I suspect we all are anyway).

 

[matt trick]

Colorado upsetting Dallas in the first round is the best case scenario for both the Dallas pick being as high as possible as well as the 5th from the Blackwood trade potentially becoming a 4th if Colorado makes the third round. Colorado making the WCF would probably mean that they had to beat Winnipeg too, which would help the Dallas pick. We are all Avs fans for the first two rounds of this playoff. And rooting against Wasington, Vegas, and Toronto (which I suspect we all are anyway).

Was going to add, what we want well aligns with our rooting interest. Sorry Winnipeg, though I'd rather see Colorado do well than them.

 

[Juxtaposer]

Was going to add, what we want well aligns with our rooting interest. Sorry Winnipeg, though I'd rather see Colorado do well than them.

I wouldn't hate if Winnipeg made a nice run, whereas I'm actively rooting for Washington/Toronto/Vegas to get swept in the first round. But yeah, better Colorado than Winnipeg.

 

[gaucholoco3]

53rd for Ott currently (playoff teams draft 49-64 in the 2nd), we're rooting for Montreal, NJ, Stl, Min to pass them, or to make conference finals. Best case scenario is 49, but Montreal and NJ passing is unlikely. MIN and STL could.

For DAL we want them and division winners (WPG, Vegas, WSH, and Toronto) missing the conference finals. I think 25 is best possible for DAL. Also, Ottawa may give up their first this year (must this year or next) which would bump both picks up one slot.

*Believe reverse draft order is: champ, finalist, conference finalists (by points), division winners (by points), remaining teams (by points).

I don’t think watching MTL make a run and how that fan base will act is worth moving up one spot in the 50’s in the draft.

 

[coooldude]

I don’t think watching MTL make a run and how that fan base will act is worth moving up one spot in the 50’s in the draft.

Absolutely cheering for a MTL crash out. Incorrigible fan base.

 

[Friday]

Absolutely cheering for a MTL crash out. Incorrigible fan base.

Just wait until Demidov does literally anything haha

 

[Juxtaposer]

Just wait until Demidov does literally anything haha

Never forget, he's better than Celebrini.

 

[Barrie22]

Just wait until Demidov does literally anything haha

1st practice and i have already seen people glazing him. He made a basically simple deke around a defensemen (in practice again) and it was big news according to that post lol

 

[SoftDumpInTheCorner]

Wait why would the Rangers consider trading a young, big productive LW for picks? And why would Grier even consider that now when that's basically his pipeline of forwards?

With the Sharks pretty much locked in as a top 3 pick. Schaefer is the clear choice at 1. Everyone loves Misa at 2 but I have some reservations about him. Nobody can deny the crazy chemistry he had with Chernyshov this season. But throw in Team Canada leaving him off the WJC roster and Misa being out of the lineup in Saginaw's most important game of the year, just makes you wonder. The talent is there but what am I not seeing about the latter stuff?

If the Sharks land at #3OA, I really, really like Anton Frondell over Martone and Hagens. If it werent for a couple of injuries and a slow season start, I believe the conversation would be is Frondell #1 or #2? I've been hearing Frondell's name longer than I was hearing Schaefer and Misa's. The shot, vision and puck skills are what I like most. The skating will need work but isnt below par. Throw in that he's played against men and has been good. Hate to use player comps but they are up there with some of the best.

Now with the second 1st the Sharks have, I would like to see Grier get creative in either package one of his 2nds to move up into the late teens as I feel that's the cut off for talent in this draft. Or make a move not by offer sheet but by trade on one of the RFA players that teams will have a hard time structuring in their payroll to help shore up their defense.

I see someone like K'Andre Miller or Bowen Byram being it. Would the Rangers accept DAL '25 1st, COL 3rd and Ferraro for Miller? Rangers get some mild cap relief, a player that fills in the left side of their defense and future assets. Sharks get a solid middle pair guy who might have some upside left. I like Byram but the price would probably be higher and would include someone like Cagnoni. I really like Byram's upside and think there's another level that's untapped.

Anyways looking forward to my Stanley Cup playoffs aka 2025 NHL Draft.

 

[Grinner]

Wait why would the Rangers consider trading a young, big productive LW for picks? And why would Grier even consider that now when that's basically his pipeline of forwards?

With the Sharks pretty much locked in as a top 3 pick. Schaefer is the clear choice at 1. Everyone loves Misa at 2 but I have some reservations about him. Nobody can deny the crazy chemistry he had with Chernyshov this season. But throw in Team Canada leaving him off the WJC roster and Misa being out of the lineup in Saginaw's most important game of the year, just makes you wonder. The talent is there but what am I not seeing about the latter stuff?

If the Sharks land at #3OA, I really, really like Anton Frondell over Martone and Hagens. If it werent for a couple of injuries and a slow season start, I believe the conversation would be is Frondell #1 or #2? I've been hearing Frondell's name longer than I was hearing Schaefer and Misa's. The shot, vision and puck skills are what I like most. The skating will need work but isnt below par. Throw in that he's played against men and has been good. Hate to use player comps but they are up there with some of the best.

Now with the second 1st the Sharks have, I would like to see Grier get creative in either package one of his 2nds to move up into the late teens as I feel that's the cut off for talent in this draft. Or make a move not by offer sheet but by trade on one of the RFA players that teams will have a hard time structuring in their payroll to help shore up their defense.

I see someone like K'Andre Miller or Bowen Byram being it. Would the Rangers accept DAL '25 1st, COL 3rd and Ferraro for Miller? Rangers get some mild cap relief, a player that fills in the left side of their defense and future assets. Sharks get a solid middle pair guy who might have some upside left. I like Byram but the price would probably be higher and would include someone like Cagnoni. I really like Byram's upside and think there's another level that's untapped.

Anyways looking forward to my Stanley Cup playoffs aka 2025 NHL Draft.

No on Miller
Reading what Rangers fans have to say about him is that he plays soft and despite a variety of tools, plays with out a toolbox.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Wait why would the Rangers consider trading a young, big productive LW for picks? And why would Grier even consider that now when that's basically his pipeline of forwards?

With the Sharks pretty much locked in as a top 3 pick. Schaefer is the clear choice at 1. Everyone loves Misa at 2 but I have some reservations about him. Nobody can deny the crazy chemistry he had with Chernyshov this season. But throw in Team Canada leaving him off the WJC roster and Misa being out of the lineup in Saginaw's most important game of the year, just makes you wonder. The talent is there but what am I not seeing about the latter stuff?

If the Sharks land at #3OA, I really, really like Anton Frondell over Martone and Hagens. If it werent for a couple of injuries and a slow season start, I believe the conversation would be is Frondell #1 or #2? I've been hearing Frondell's name longer than I was hearing Schaefer and Misa's. The shot, vision and puck skills are what I like most. The skating will need work but isnt below par. Throw in that he's played against men and has been good. Hate to use player comps but they are up there with some of the best.

Now with the second 1st the Sharks have, I would like to see Grier get creative in either package one of his 2nds to move up into the late teens as I feel that's the cut off for talent in this draft. Or make a move not by offer sheet but by trade on one of the RFA players that teams will have a hard time structuring in their payroll to help shore up their defense.

I see someone like K'Andre Miller or Bowen Byram being it. Would the Rangers accept DAL '25 1st, COL 3rd and Ferraro for Miller? Rangers get some mild cap relief, a player that fills in the left side of their defense and future assets. Sharks get a solid middle pair guy who might have some upside left. I like Byram but the price would probably be higher and would include someone like Cagnoni. I really like Byram's upside and think there's another level that's untapped.

Anyways looking forward to my Stanley Cup playoffs aka 2025 NHL Draft.

Teams make wingers available for all sorts of reasons like we made Zetterlund available. Lots of guys have a price that a team is willing to move them for. Or in this case maybe the Rangers are returning us a favor for taking Goodrow off their hands. I think it makes sense to try and add that sort of player at the right price even if your pipeline is similar. We're still going to have plenty of lineup spots for those forwards to fill.

As for the draft, there's still so many scenarios possible especially if our top pick is 3OA. However, if we're missing out on Schaefer, I'd want to secure either a high end RHD prospect or an RHD that is able to contribute for a while starting next season. Whether that's finding a way to pick Mrtka, Hensler, or Fiddler or acquiring someone like Dobson, one of these things needs to happen this offseason if we're missing out on Schaefer. I think if you're going to move the Dallas pick for immediate help, it should be addressing a position we're not set up to fill for a while. I think Byram looks more like that guy than Miller does. I don't know if either would be worth the cost but if I had to pick, it would be Byram. My issue with Byram is what will he be if he's not getting the top offensive opportunities on our team? Is he still going to be worth that next contract? I don't know.

I can't wait for the lottery just to get more focus on what we can do. The Sharks could be crazy players if they draft at 3 and the Dallas pick. I'm hoping for Schaefer and using the Dallas pick to get an RHD.