2025 NHL Draft: Lose a ton for Porter Martone

[Jargon]

He didn't say when, nor did he say how big. He said they are not gunna be aggressive or rush the process. And he definitely did not set himself up to make a legit run next year.

I'm not saying that its impossible, Just I wouldn't count on it. I think he'll be active in UFA though, but mostly all short term deal.

There’s no possible way he’s going to make a legit run next year as that’s essentially impossible.

But I think he absolutely wants (and I think honestly needs) to put together a team that can win more than 20 games a season before the life gets sucked out of guys like Eklund.

Yes, Isles fans are pushing him out the door. They're wondering if they shouldn't just re-sign Tony DeAngelo instead of committing a big contract to Dobson. Miller makes some comical defensive blunders at times but he is absolutely better than Dobson defensively on the whole. Dobson's value will be higher on the trade market purely from being a RHD, but if Dobson were a lefty or Miller were a righty, I'd value them just about the same.

I’ve said it before but something about Miller just really strikes me as a Grier-type of trade. Big, skates well, maybe needs a change of scenery…

 

[coooldude]

Magic number is 27. Roughly 14 Sharks losses OR CHI wins and we've locked up last place.

With 15 games to go, and our schedule harder than theirs, not quite but nearly a formality. A loss on Thursday drops the number to 23 and gives us near certainty.

At this point, honestly, I'd love to see us blow them out, keep Bedard off the score sheet, make Levshunov look bad. But at this point, woof, with Schuldt in and Mukh our best defender, I'm not counting on it.

 

[Jargon]

Magic number is 27. Roughly 14 Sharks losses OR CHI wins and we've locked up last place.

With 15 games to go, and our schedule harder than theirs, not quite but nearly a formality. A loss on Thursday drops the number to 23 and gives us near certainty.

At this point, honestly, I'd love to see us blow them out, keep Bedard off the score sheet, make Levshunov look bad. But at this point, woof, with Schuldt in and Mukh our best defender, I'm not counting on it.

The strange thing about the Sharks is despite being totally gutted they’ve had periods where they’ve looked good still. It’s mostly on the back of our young guys, but I can them taking out all their frustrations on Chicago and winning. And I hope they do.

 

[STL Shark]

He didn't say when, nor did he say how big. He said they are not gunna be aggressive or rush the process. And he definitely did not set himself up to make a legit run next year.

I'm not saying that its impossible, Just I wouldn't count on it. I think he'll be active in UFA though, but mostly all short term deal.

Don't be dense. He literally talked about it being the time to maybe start cashing in the 1st round picks they've acquired the last month and some of the prospects we've accumulated to try and start building this thing back up with a group ready to compete.

Sure, we're not handing out a 7 year deal at insane money to Mitch Marner, but we're going to make some significant moves to be much better next year (particularly on defense). We're not going into next year with Ferraro, Muk, Liljegren, and Vlasic as our Top 4 on defense.

 

[jMoneyBrah]

…we're not going into next year with Ferraro, Muk, Liljegren, and Vlasic as our Top 4 on defense.

Why would you put this ju ju on us?

 

[Jargon]

Don't be dense. He literally talked about it being the time to maybe start cashing in the 1st round picks they've acquired the last month and some of the prospects we've accumulated to try and start building this thing back up with a group ready to compete.

Sure, we're not handing out a 7 year deal at insane money to Mitch Marner, but we're going to make some significant moves to be much better next year (particularly on defense). We're not going into next year with Ferraro, Muk, Liljegren, and Vlasic as our Top 4 on defense.

Agreed. I think Grier is extremely honest and when he says something he very much means it.

For some strange reason I have this feeling he might already have a framework for a deal or a couple of deals with some teams for this summer (someone like Nemec, or Hamilton, or whatever). This is based on nothing other than when we heard the Sharks were going to bring in another goalie and soon after we got Askarov, which we found out Grier had had in the works for months.

Could be wrong but I think Grier has a big summer planned.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Agreed. I think Grier is extremely honest and when he says something he very much means it.

For some strange reason I have this feeling he might already have a framework for a deal or a couple of deals with some teams for this summer (someone like Nemec, or Hamilton, or whatever). This is based on nothing other than when we heard the Sharks were going to bring in another goalie and soon after we got Askarov, which we found out Grier had had in the works for months.

Could be wrong but I think Grier has a big summer planned.

I would guess Grier knows what it would take to get Hamilton or Nemec. I think Hamilton would be the better value deal especially if we’re able to dump Goodrow and Thrun back in the process. Then you only need to get one free agent middle pairing level RHD or trade for another one. But getting Hamilton will probably do the most individual good for the team this off-season.