2025 NHL Draft: Lose a ton for Porter Martone

[hohosaregood]

the draft is just a way to acquire trade currency. draft well, develop well, get a lot of assets to trade.

 

[Lebanezer]

Did this all start because the argument was "the teams that win the Stanley Cup acquire superstars when they're available?"

 

[Jargon]

Did this all start because the argument was "the teams that win the Stanley Cup acquire superstars when they're available?"

Listen man, good teams draft well and also trade well (BUT ONLY WHEN THE TRADES ARE GOOD) and also they have good players.

 

[SjMilhouse]

Listen man, good teams draft well and also trade well (BUT ONLY WHEN THE TRADES ARE GOOD) and also they have good players.

Good teams score more goals than their opponents and I won't have anyone tell me otherwise.

 

[Jargon]

Good teams score more goals than their opponents and I won't have anyone tell me otherwise.

More goals but they also win more games which is also key.

 

[sharski]

IMO at the end of the day, whether you like it or not it is what it is

 

[Shark Finn]

A bit OT but there's a thread on the trade board where a Flyers fan wants a top-3 pick in this draft for Konecny. And some guy is arguing you need veterans too, so it must be a good move.

 

[STL Shark]

I don't know why everyone wants to be Buffalo so badly.

Being Buffalo would be never spending draft capital on actually improving the lineup around your star player(s). Even Buffalo now is a deeply flawed team because it's comprised of exclusively internally drafted/developed players that were BPA types that are being forced to try and play together when they don't fit.

I think drafting BPA is the correct stance based on when you're making a selection, but oftentimes making a draft selection isn't the best use of a draft pick if you can move it to build a more complete roster. Buffalo trading for Lehner and ROR were both good moves. The issue was they didn't do anything after that to keep moving it forward, but rather hoped and prayed Eichel/ROR would be enough to lift the entire boat.

Yeah, the Florida Panthers definitely win the Cup without trading for Tkachuk. And the Knights would have without trading for Eichel. And the Avs without Toews. And the Bolts without Sergachev. And the Blues without O'Reilly. Definitely none of those teams were built on trades.

They'd have had homegrown stars like Reinhart and Sam Bennett though too... oh wait. Well even with ROR, the Blues would have had homegrown 2C Brayden Schenn... wait, no he doesn't fit there either.

 

[STL Shark]

Did this all start because the argument was "the teams that win the Stanley Cup acquire superstars when they're available?"

It started because I said we should look to move some picks this draft to make the 2025-26 team better and start shifting into trying to establish some winning culture for Mack/Smith.

 

[matt trick]

A bit OT but there's a thread on the trade board where a Flyers fan wants a top-3 pick in this draft for Konecny. And some guy is arguing you need veterans too, so it must be a good move.

On the Konecny thread he were a center, I'd say they can definitely get a top 10 pick. Buffalo might even do top 5 (they wouldn't give up Hagens or Misa, maybe Martone), but he's a wing. He's an excellent player, really drives play on a bad team.

Maybe if they also grabbed Petterson for Byram/Power and Cozens? They'd upgrade their center and RW. If they had it at top 6-10 I could maybe see that in the right situation. Petterson, Thompson, Tuch, Konecny, Kulich, Benson, Greeenway, Zucker, Peterka would be a an interesting top 9- and absolutely massive. Might help Petterson play bigger with Thompson, Greenway, and Tuch running around. Buffalo gives up three high value assets, but somewhat solves their C problem, LHD overage, and gets an elite wing. They'd still need to figure out RHD, and may create a new problem with Petterson, but it's better than what they have now- ton of talent, no guys with playoff resumes, and a completely misconstructed (no Cs, no RHD).

An amusing scenario is the Penguins. Provided their top draft targets were gone and Philly helped the Penguins out of a cap problem as well. But if you add an elite player and clear some cap space for a few quality free agents, they could do a solid send off. Say they sign Chychrun or Orlov and Boeser or Ehlers. I think they're the team most in need of resetting, but you've got Crosby for two more years and he doesn't want to be traded.

Say Hayes+Desharnais+7th overall for Konency
Rangers 1st+Jarry to SJ for DAL 1st

The east is bad enough- and there's enough GM's with warm seats- that I can see some crazy shit happening.

Also on the topic of amusing threads, the 'Who will be #1" on the prospect board has some hilarious back and forth. Conspiracies about Canadian players being destined to own the first round....Jux's post are quite entertaining.

 

[coooldude]

Also on the topic of amusing threads, the 'Who will be #1" on the prospect board has some hilarious back and forth. Conspiracies about Canadian players being destined to own the first round....Jux's post are quite entertaining.

Pavel's crashing out.

 

[Juxtaposer]

Also on the topic of amusing threads, the 'Who will be #1" on the prospect board has some hilarious back and forth. Conspiracies about Canadian players being destined to own the first round....Jux's post are quite entertaining.

Pavel's crashing out.

PB's always crashing out about Hagens, yet can't actually seem to say anything great about him. It's always the "Canadian conspiracy to maintain hockey dominance" or something completely inane instead of the fact that Hagens has not performed to expectations this season and Schaefer and Misa have exceeded them.

I think his crash out has now surpassed the Steve Kourni-whatever crash out in the Martone thread from a couple months ago, where he said "I don't need to watch Hagens anymore because he's going #1 without question".