2025 NHL Draft: Lose a ton for Porter Martone

[timorous me]

Break like a wafer?

Should've trademarked this one when I had the chance.

 

[Makoshark]

Yeah that's my favorite one too

 

[Lebanezer]

play like a wafer for Schaefer

Eat your wafer, pray for Schaefer.

 

[TheBeard]

So, little fact about me. I make porn for a living and we do a lot of parodies and I've named them all.

 

[weastern bias]

So, little fact about me. I make porn for a living and we do a lot of parodies and I've named them all.

 

[vortexy]

Chicago get a point tonight and we are officially last in the NHL currently! Chicago also has 2 games in hand and hold the regulation wins tiebreaker if needed (13 we have 10)

 

[DG93]

Chicago get a point tonight and we are officially last in the NHL currently! Chicago also has 2 games in hand and hold the regulation wins tiebreaker if needed (13 we have 10)
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Islanders and Kraken both with wins today too moving them to 11pt ahead of SJ with 1-3 games in hand. That leaves Buffalo/Nashville at 5 (3-4 games in hand), Anaheim at 8 (3 games in hand), and of course Shitcago (2 games in hand as you mentioned). Teams starting to separate themselves a bit...if Nashville wins these next 2 + Buffalo picks it up, we're in business.

 

[Sandisfan]

Islanders and Kraken both with wins today too moving them to 11pt ahead of SJ with 1-3 games in hand. That leaves Buffalo/Nashville at 5 (3-4 games in hand), Anaheim at 8 (3 games in hand), and of course Shitcago (2 games in hand as you mentioned). Teams starting to separate themselves a bit...if Nashville wins these next 2 + Buffalo picks it up, we're in business.

Any game involving our rivals against each other, I am all in for Three point Games.

 

[dmcccdmn]

Chicago get a point tonight and we are officially last in the NHL currently! Chicago also has 2 games in hand and hold the regulation wins tiebreaker if needed (13 we have 10)
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This is the 2nd best news of the season so far. Sharks need to stay at the bottom for the rest of the season. Send Askarov down, trade Granlund, put Celebrini in as goalie. Do anything to keep us in last place.

 

[Cas]

This is the 2nd best news of the season so far. Sharks need to stay at the bottom for the rest of the season. Send Askarov down, trade Granlund, put Celebrini in as goalie. Do anything to keep us in last place.

We'll be fine.

 

[TheBeard]

We'll be fine.

I feel like dmc only wants to root for last place teams.

First film I ever did was a Big Lebowski XXX Parody

 

[Anomie2029]

We'll be fine.

We are already safely last with those players playing… Of course we’ll be fine.

 

[mogambomoroo]

I hope:
-Sharks get more than 19 wins this year, even before deadline if possible.
-Sharks trade as many pieces away (all the ufa + Ferraro)
- They keep Celebrini happy behind the scenes and give him the lead next year
-Draft a stud and use pieces to acquire defencemen or overpay a solid defencemen in FA
-Be more aggressive with building a solid team for next year

 

[karltonian]

First film I ever did was a Big Lebowski XXX Parody

Karl Hungus, I presume?

 

[matt trick]

So, little fact about me. I make porn for a living and we do a lot of parodies and I've named them all.

And the award for least surprising post on the forum goes to…

 

[JotAlan]

I feel like the main difference between Hagens and Misa is people have to make excuses for Hagens, and against Misa, partially because he has such a great median outcome. But the question for Misa especially if he scores 65-70 goals is why are we putting a cap on his scoring ability?

What bothered me most was reading a previous post saying that Misa will probably have difficulty being a 40-goal scorer and Martone will be. Man, Misa is half a year younger, has an absurdly good shot and is on a goal-per-game pace. No, there is no way Martone will be a better scorer.

 

[Stewie Griffin]

The only argument for Martone over Misa is his profile. It's hard to find right shot, big, scoring forwards. That's it.

With that said, the Sharks DO need a player that fits that profile, but I'm only taking him if we're 4th overall.

The other main 3 are better.

 

[JotAlan]

If we had to choose just one between Smith x Misa x Hagens, who would you choose? Why?

 

[matt trick]

If we had to choose just one between Smith x Misa x Hagens, who would you choose? Why?

Hagens has the highest ceiling in my opinion. That said, a 1-2 punch of Celebrini and Misa would be the center of a really competitive, high octane, in your face forward core. I think the system you could build around those two is the type that thrives in the postseason. I have Smith third, but it’s quite close (and he could be the best of the three). Furthermore, I think all three 1-2 punches would be elite.

Misa is the only one of the three where I’d look at my top two centers and not be worried about having enough size on their wings.

 

[Forlan]

Underestimating Hagens is a big mistake. It is especially unwise to say that they are similar to Smith. Hagens is a more dynamic, two-way player. I would say that his gaming IQ is no worse than Smith's. With the further experience gained, Hagens will become a more significant and leading player

 

[matt trick]

I’m expecting this year’s bottom 5 will be SJ and Chicago joined by Anaheim, Seattle, and Buffalo. I think Nash puts together an adequate second half to maintain there position of never having an elite center. It’d be great if the Islanders or Pens could bump Anaheim out, through performance or lotto, but I don’t Anaheim winning their way out.

I also don’t think it’s completely out of the question that Buff and NYI outperform the 5 western teams and all 5 top picks end up in the west.

Starting with ‘23 this seems like a 5 year run of some excellent prospects. Any team getting two of the franchise guys (Celebrini, Bedard, McKenna, Dupont; maybe Carlsson, Schaefer, Michkov, Verhoff), and 1-2 of the next tier is going to create quite an opportunity.

 

[STL Shark]

Let's say that Schaefer to SJ happens. Does the potential to have Schaefer, Dickinson, Muk down the left side mitigate some of the need to maybe seek out a true top pairing RHD given their scarcity and acquisition cost?

Could Schaefer's partner maybe be your 3rd or 4th best D-Man behind the other 2 LHD as opposed to needing to be top pairing caliber himself? Same goes for your 2nd pairing maybe being your 2nd and 5th best and 3rd pairing having your 4th best D-Man playing with your 6th best D-Man.

 

[coooldude]

What bothered me most was reading a previous post saying that Misa will probably have difficulty being a 40-goal scorer and Martone will be. Man, Misa is half a year younger, has an absurdly good shot and is on a goal-per-game pace. No, there is no way Martone will be a better scorer.

That was probably me, and I don't think I was as confident as you're portraying. Misa could very well be a better NHL scorer. I was more describing what I see as their risk profiles. Misa is maybe a more certain outcome and more outcomes that are good, while Martone has a spikier boom/bust risk. I'm not confident enough to say for sure that Misa or Martone will be a "better scorer" or who will have the best year vs best career. FWIW I'm a Misa fan.

 

[mogambomoroo]

Let's say that Schaefer to SJ happens. Does the potential to have Schaefer, Dickinson, Muk down the left side mitigate some of the need to maybe seek out a true top pairing RHD given their scarcity and acquisition cost?

Could Schaefer's partner maybe be your 3rd or 4th best D-Man behind the other 2 LHD as opposed to needing to be top pairing caliber himself? Same goes for your 2nd pairing maybe being your 2nd and 5th best and 3rd pairing having your 4th best D-Man playing with your 6th best D-Man.

I look at this like the cup winning Tampa situation where all the defensive talent was on the left side Hedman, McDonagh, Sergachev. Right side was more of the complimentary one. But it still needs to good.
I think they had Cernak, Savard, Shattenkirk, Schenn and Rutta on right side in -20 and -21 cup wins.
So it's been proven that it can be a winning formula if team truly has a killer LD depth.

 

[Juxtaposer]

Let's say that Schaefer to SJ happens. Does the potential to have Schaefer, Dickinson, Muk down the left side mitigate some of the need to maybe seek out a true top pairing RHD given their scarcity and acquisition cost?

Could Schaefer's partner maybe be your 3rd or 4th best D-Man behind the other 2 LHD as opposed to needing to be top pairing caliber himself? Same goes for your 2nd pairing maybe being your 2nd and 5th best and 3rd pairing having your 4th best D-Man playing with your 6th best D-Man.

Yes. I think if you have a true #1D as good as I think Schaefer will be, you don't need a top pairing level partner for them to have elite impact. Did Burns or Karlsson literally ever have a partner who was a legit top pairing guy? Not even close. Burns played with like, old Brad Stuart, late-stage Paul Martin, Joakim Ryan, Brendan Dillon, and still had elite on-ice impact. Just gotta find a guy with the right complementary skillset who can handle the minutes.