2025 NHL Draft: Lose a ton for Porter Martone

[Grinner]

idk how realistic it would be but VGK 1st + Fabbro for Granlund would be something I'd try to go for out of Nashville. Not sure what Fabbro's value really is these days.

I wouldn't mind getting Edstrom back

 

[coooldude]

I wouldn't mind getting Edstrom back

Given they targeted him as a C prospect, I don't think he's coming back.

 

[Erep]

Also, kinda felt like the Sharks brought in Edstrom for redundancy at the 3C prospect position, saw him at prospect camp, and were like... we will stick with Bystedt. Obviously, you have to give to get, so Nashville could have been pushing in that direction, but just looking at how well Bystedt has translated to NA ice, makes it really feel like Edstrom was viewed as disposable.

 

[karltonian]

Also, kinda felt like the Sharks brought in Edstrom for redundancy at the 3C prospect position, saw him at prospect camp, and were like... we will stick with Bystedt. Obviously, you have to give to get, so Nashville could have been pushing in that direction, but just looking at how well Bystedt has translated to NA ice, makes it really feel like Edstrom was viewed as disposable.

I mean he went for Askarov. I think they weren't thinking much other than, we are getting Askarov. I doubt they would have balked at moving either guy.

 

[Patty Ice]

I've been on Team "Keep Granlund."

Unless some team is offering up a 1st but I doubt anyone other than maybe Nashville (familiarity and a slew of early picks, 3 1sts and 2 2nds) go for it.

 

[Stewie Griffin]

I've been on Team "Keep Granlund."

Unless some team is offering up a 1st but I doubt anyone other than maybe Nashville (familiarity and a slew of early picks, 3 1sts and 2 2nds) go for it.

Exactly. He's easily our best player, and even with him we're going to finish bottom 3 for sure. It's better to have him there to play with the young guys, show them what works/doesn't in the NHL, and give us a better (not good) chance of winning hockey games. Much rather have that than another late 1st that'll take 4 years to make the team (if ever).

 

[gaucholoco3]

Exactly. He's easily our best player, and even with him we're going to finish bottom 3 for sure. It's better to have him there to play with the young guys, show them what works/doesn't in the NHL, and give us a better (not good) chance of winning hockey games. Much rather have that than another late 1st that'll take 4 years to make the team (if ever).

If he doesn’t extend before the deadline then he needs to be moved. It doesn’t matter if it is a 2nd or a 1st he will provide no benefit playing the few meaningless games after the all star break.

That said I would not have a problem if they extend him before the deadline.

 

[Stewie Griffin]

he will provide no benefit playing the few meaningless games after the all star break.

Yes he will. That's the time of year when the most rookies are in the lineup, and if they're going to be important in out future, we need to make sure they enjoy playing here, have the best chance to win/succeed, and not just play in a few games where they get torched every night. Morale is a huge part of development, and we do not want to have a losing culture here like Buffalo has had for years.
There's much more to team building than getting draft picks/assets for all of your expiring contracts.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Yes he will. That's the time of year when the most rookies are in the lineup, and if they're going to be important in out future, we need to make sure they enjoy playing here, have the best chance to win/succeed, and not just play in a few games where they get torched every night. Morale is a huge part of development, and we do not want to have a losing culture here like Buffalo has had for years.
There's much more to team building than getting draft picks/assets for all of your expiring contracts.

I don't know what to tell you but the losing culture is already here. We'll be out of the playoffs for six consecutive seasons. We get torched occasionally whether Granlund is here or not. There will be veterans around rookie recalls after the deadline with or without Granlund. It comes down to what Granlund wants to do. At 33 by the deadline, he's got limited opportunities to play for a Cup and it won't be here. If he doesn't want to extend, we need to move him for everyone's sake.

 

[Stewie Griffin]

I don't know what to tell you but the losing culture is already here. We'll be out of the playoffs for six consecutive seasons. We get torched occasionally whether Granlund is here or not. There will be veterans around rookie recalls after the deadline with or without Granlund. It comes down to what Granlund wants to do. At 33 by the deadline, he's got limited opportunities to play for a Cup and it won't be here. If he doesn't want to extend, we need to move him for everyone's sake.

For everyone's sake? What does that even mean? You're talking as if keeping him until the offseason and he walks is some sort of detriment.

Yes the losing culture is already here, but we need to address that, not continue it. Whether it's going to make a huge difference or not, Granlund is our best player. Our offense is almost relying on him right now. He's doing huge things to help the confidence of Eklund and Zetterlund, which is extremely important to our future. It also keeps guys in somewhat more natural spots (without him, Wennberg is our current 1C and Kunin the 2C)

At the end of the day, yes our team sucks, and it's further away from the stanley cup at the moment than all other 31 teams. But we're at the point now where we need important pieces like Granlund (again yeah he's older, but still our current most important player) more than we need yet another 20-45th overall pick or whatever it is. Idk about you but I'd like to turn this around sooner rather than later instead of trading expiring assets and become the next Sabres, or even Ducks rn considering how long they've been at the bottom.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

For everyone's sake? What does that even mean? You're talking as if keeping him until the offseason and he walks is some sort of detriment.

Yes the losing culture is already here, but we need to address that, not continue it. Whether it's going to make a huge difference or not, Granlund is our best player. Our offense is almost relying on him right now. He's doing huge things to help the confidence of Eklund and Zetterlund, which is extremely important to our future. It also keeps guys in somewhat more natural spots (without him, Wennberg is our current 1C and Kunin the 2C)

At the end of the day, yes our team sucks, and it's further away from the stanley cup at the moment than all other 31 teams. But we're at the point now where we need important pieces like Granlund (again yeah he's older, but still our current most important player) more than we need yet another 20-45th overall pick or whatever it is. Idk about you but I'd like to turn this around sooner rather than later instead of trading expiring assets and become the next Sabres, or even Ducks rn considering how long they've been at the bottom.

Yes, for everyone's sake. It is a detriment to the team to keep Granlund past the trade deadline if he shows no intention on staying here on the team's terms. He will be disappointed that the team didn't move him to a contender after performing pretty well for two awful teams. The team will lose out on a meaningful asset that could be used to address real issues for the team moving forward. And Granlund wouldn't be the first player that was disappointed in his team not moving him that would then affect the other players in that room.

Granlund is this team's best player until Celebrini gets back in the lineup but that doesn't change his contractual situation. It doesn't change the team's priorities moving forward. It doesn't change that this team is still very far off from being a competitive team and needs draft picks including in the range you think it would be in order to turn this thing around. Not trading expiring assets for draft picks only delays the turnaround further. No help is gained by keeping him to finish the most meaningless games of the season that the team will absolutely lag on because it's human nature. Granlund isn't changing that. No one is.

 

[DG93]

I've been on Team "Keep Granlund."

Unless some team is offering up a 1st but I doubt anyone other than maybe Nashville (familiarity and a slew of early picks, 3 1sts and 2 2nds) go for it.

I think Carolina could be a good fit given their center situation behind Aho, and they like 2-way players, which Granlund definitely is...something like Orlov + Carolina 1st for Granlund I could get behind.

 

[Patty Ice]

I think Carolina could be a good fit given their center situation behind Aho, and they like 2-way players, which Granlund definitely is...something like Orlov + Carolina 1st for Granlund I could get behind.

I'd shoot for Scott Morrow. I think he will make a nice 2nd pairing RHD.

 

[Grinner]

Badinka + 3rd

 

[coooldude]

Thread namesake has a new profile out in the Athletic and it starts this way

 

[mogambomoroo]

Porter Martone would absolutely lock this future top 6 up. Would be such a pain in the ass for other teams and probably would be a monster when playoffs start. It's him or a top defencemen that would help tremendously with building a powerhouse of the future.