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sounds like he'll be fine

don't foresee any kind of drastic drop. people on washington commanders forums thought they might get him. no, he's not getting past 5 lol
 
Pestilence said:
Reaching with a pick would be a Raiders thing to do.
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Honestly, it's very quiet for this draft. No QBs to hype up. In terms of trade down/up, unless something has changed from the combine to now, the top of the draft, top 12-15, not as many first round grades as prior drafts. So, there's a cutoff.

I suspect it's a lot of writers trying to come up with something interesting.

Carroll, when he had a big voice would take certain guys, be it LJ Collier, Jordan Brooks, etc. I don't think he has that kind of power or say in LV now. All on Spytek and his scouting staff with input from Pete in terms of how he wants to run the team.

Pete is a former secondary coach, but Graham is the DC. At this stage, Pete should be more the HC than lean on the D. Let Graham run the scheme he sees fit with their personnel.

Will Johnson is the 2nd rated CB behind Hunter. He's got the size Pete likes in the Cover 3 system.
 
StreetHawk said:
Will Johnson is the 2nd rated CB behind Hunter.
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Not for every team and I'm not sure it's for the majority at this point. Major outlets like PFF have had Barron ahead for quite a while now as Johnson slowly tumbled all season. The major question with Barron is whether he can play outside. More on this in a sec.

I'm a Johnson fan, but he was just not very good this year even in the tiny stretch where he got on the field. There's significant risk. Barron was fantastic. I prefer Johnson's '23 to Barron's '24, but it's a muddy projection now.

StreetHawk said:
Honestly, it's very quiet for this draft. No QBs to hype up. In terms of trade down/up, unless something has changed from the combine to now, the top of the draft, top 12-15, not as many first round grades as prior drafts. So, there's a cutoff.

I suspect it's a lot of writers trying to come up with something interesting.
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It's also teams not loving any of these guys. Every non-QB outside of Hunter and Carter has at least one major concern. I don't think the consensus board is worth what it usually is at all because so many of those concerns are scheme or org specific.

Someone like Barron stands to benefit from the recent success after slides of guys like Branch and DeJean. And it becomes a hell of a lot easier to make that leap to taking a Slot if you flat out prefer him as a player. That could be as early as 4 in this draft. It was in the teens last year.
 
JojoTheWhale said:
It's also teams not loving any of these guys. Every non-QB outside of Hunter and Carter has at least one major concern. I don't think the consensus board is worth what it usually is at all because so many of those concerns are scheme or org specific.

Someone like Barron stands to benefit from the recent success after slides of guys like Branch and DeJean. And it becomes a hell of a lot easier to make that leap to taking a Slot if you flat out prefer him as a player. That could be as early as 4 in this draft. It was in the teens last year.
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Pete and co did draft Witherspoon over Gonzalez. Both Pro Bowler caliber secondary guys, with Witherspoon a little shorter and is more an inside slot vs mostly outside that Gonzalez has been.

But, Seattle did use Witherspoon all over. See if Barron offers the same versatility or not.
 
Goalie_Bob said:
Kordell was a far better QB than Milroe. And he was drafted, I think, in the 3rd round.
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Completely different league and assuredly wouldn’t happen today. That’s 30 years ago.

We’ve gone through 3 to 4 full iterations of leaguewide change in approach to the QB position. In the spring of ‘95, the league was still a pocket passer based structure. Even the guys that could run like Steve Young didn’t do it to nearly the same degree as basically every org expects now. Today there’s a level of mobility you need to succeed unless you’re a true outlier.

The other knock against him at the time was that he was too short for the NFL. This is an environment where a guy multiple inches shorter than Stewart did go 1OA (Young) and multiple other 6’1” QBs have as well (Mayfield, Caleb Williams). You might be thinking that many other QBs of Stewart’s era were listed as 6’2” and that couldn’t possibly be so different. History will have proved you right. But that’s how it was.
 
BB88 said:
They’ll go Jeanty
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Not loving that pick for LV if that is how it turns out. Geno is a 2-3 year QB solution. I mean, you need a good QB for their duration of the RB rookie deal and into the first 2 years of an extension, so basically 6 years to make it worth drafting a RB that high. Talented player and probably fits better for another club that has a QB if we are talking about best usage over that 6-7 year period.

Barkley, CMC, Henry need a QB who can force the D to not always play 8 in the box.
 
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