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My3Sons

My3Sons

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Well, 2025 is in full swing and racing is back. I know @NjDevsRR told us that Indy car would be on a main network this season. I'll leave it to him to describe that for us. I will make the effort to watch and learn more about it than just the Indy 500.

As for Formula 1, they got underway this weekend. A rainy race down under. Norris for McLaren took the lead and never looked back. Verstappen in the Red Bull threatened for a bit but could not quote match Norris's pace. The much anticipated start of Hamilton in a Ferrari was anticlimactic as he never got to the leaders.

I enjoy the uncertainty of watching a wet track race so I found this one reasonably fun. I still have an overriding concern that the cars are too good and essentially each race in good conditions will boil down to a one stop race where the only real lead change at the top is based on the timing of the pit stop but we will see.
 
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OH MY YEAH

Great start to the F1 calendar with a wild race weekend.

IndyCar had a fantastic start on Fox a few weeks ago, record viewership. Next race is this weekend.

Nascar is nascar, some excellent racing to start the season there
 
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NjDevsRR said:
OH MY YEAH

Great start to the F1 calendar with a wild race weekend.

IndyCar had a fantastic start on Fox a few weeks ago, record viewership. Next race is this weekend.

Nascar is nascar, some excellent racing to start the season there
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Please chime in with an Indy car reminder late this week and tell us what to watch for. I'm excited to pick that up. I miss the old World Rally Championship racing from the early 2000s when the Mitsubishi Lancer Evo and the Subaru WRX went head to head.
 
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My3Sons said:
Please chime in with an Indy car reminder late this week and tell us what to watch for. I'm excited to pick that up. I miss the old World Rally Championship racing from the early 2000s when the Mitsubishi Lancer Evo and the Subaru WRX went head to head.
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Supercars also had an incredible race a few weeks ago. Go to the 11:30 min mark and watch from there

 
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Clam Jensen said:
I was so bummed for Piastri, but he did a great job of still getting p9. Norris is just so off putting to me.
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Norris is awkward but seems sincere. Let's face it, most of these guys are from very privileged backgrounds and on some level needed huge resources along the way to have any chance to succeed. I'm not surprised the personalities are a mixed bag. I don't particularly like Verstappen's attitude at times but listening to him rip the car and the rest of the team during the race when he's in the top three is always fun.
 
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Norris is awkward but seems sincere. Let's face it, most of these guys are from very privileged backgrounds and on some level needed huge resources along the way to have any chance to succeed. I'm not surprised the personalities are a mixed bag. I don't particularly like Verstappen's attitude at times but listening to him rip the car and the rest of the team during the race when he's in the top three is always fun.
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Max can be spicy for sure, but for whatever reason he never bothered me. Norris was sincere initially and super charismatic with the press and added levity, but I think the journalists tried to match his light hearted energy too much and it rubbed him the wrong way, and now he just comes across as a knob.
 
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I watched Dirt racing, Nascar Xfinity and even stayed up for the F1 race past Saturday. I had to move on quickly from a shitty performance by the Devils in Pittsburgh. Thanks for posting the Supercars! IMSA's spec Mazda Miata division is wildly entertaining too!
 
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So the rolling side show landed in China this week. The most exciting part of thr race was after it ended when both Ferraris were disqualified. The race itself was ho hum. Props to Piastri who has arrived. Props to Norris for managing that brakes at the end. Russell drove his usual smart composed race as did Verstappen.
 
The cars are too good. Every race is a one stop affair and there is so little passing and none at the top of the field. The announcers are trying to blame McLaren for not setting up some sort of slingshot to pass Verstappen but that wasn’t thr issue as I see it. You had three fast cars that were all close and then everyone else. If Norris or Piastri had scored the pole I think they win as well. No car dropped out. Hopefully the tegulation changes for next year create some drama
 
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My3Sons said:
The cars are too good. Every race is a one stop affair and there is so little passing and none at the top of the field. The announcers are trying to blame McLaren for not setting up some sort of slingshot to pass Verstappen but that wasn’t thr issue as I see it. You had three fast cars that were all close and then everyone else. If Norris or Piastri had scored the pole I think they win as well. No car dropped out. Hopefully the tegulation changes for next year create some drama
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Mainly, they are too heavy, wide and long. These once great tracks now suffer from the size of these tractor trailers.

Monaco is a farce now because of it

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Mainly, they are too heavy, wide and long. These once great tracks now suffer from the size of these tractor trailers.

Monaco is a farce now because of it

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They shoukd try find some way to make the cars closer that 1960 size but I’m guessing the modern safety equipment is a big part of the size requirements. The cars now are just so reliable and the computer simulations have allowed them to manage the tires. They have to do something. It’s bordering on tedious.
 
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They shoukd try find some way to make the cars closer that 1960 size but I’m guessing the modern safety equipment is a big part of the size requirements. The cars now are just so reliable and the computer simulations have allowed them to manage the tires. They have to do something. It’s bordering on tedious.
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Biggest issue is the hybrid unit. That takes up a ton of space. Also the massive fuel tank.

Bring back refueling you cowards
 
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Biggest issue is the hybrid unit. That takes up a ton of space. Also the massive fuel tank.

Bring back refueling you cowards
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I j on now that the 2026 refs were allegedly going reduce the footprint of the cars but I doubt it’s by that much. Right now the margins are so slim that track position is dictating all the races and with only one pit stop there just isn’t any excitement. Really disappointing. Now how about a heads up before the next Indy race.
 
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My3Sons said:
I j on now that the 2026 refs were allegedly going reduce the footprint of the cars but I doubt it’s by that much. Right now the margins are so slim that track position is dictating all the races and with only one pit stop there just isn’t any excitement. Really disappointing. Now how about a heads up before the next Indy race.
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Next weekend! GP of Long Beach. A legendary race
 
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The Formula one media really seems to love bashing McLaren. The article I read on the official F1 website about winners and losers for the weekend lists McLaren as their first losers. They finished second and third. That's now losing. I guess if you aren't first you are last? How about some credit to Verstappen? He ran a great race. Nobody was passing anyone at the top and the nonsense about an undercut or overcoat wasn't going to change the outcome of that race. I'd say the only mistake was when Norris tried to sneak around Verstappen after the pit stop. Had he just stayed on Verstappen's tail maybe he's close enough to try to pass him but according to the McLaren principal the McLaren only had a bit more pace than the Red Bull and it wasn't enough to pass. The race was over after qualifying. That's starting to become a theme with all of this season's races decided by qualifying. I guess the media has to create drama but maybe focus on the reality of the racing becoming dull.
 
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