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Fiziev will probably smoke Gaethje, I hate that rematch. Hoping I'm wrong but he doesn't have much time left in the sport and can't take another bad loss. Wish he would have held out for a more impactful matchup at this stage of his career.
 
Isn't Poirier already planning his retirement fight? I don't see a quick turnaround for Gaethje win or lose. Pretty sure they already have a plan for Poirier, could even be Topuria or Colby.
 
Yeah I’ve seen speculation they’re making Topuria-Poirier, that would be a hell of a retirement fight
 
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Isn't Poirier already planning his retirement fight? I don't see a quick turnaround for Gaethje win or lose. Pretty sure they already have a plan for Poirier, could even be Topuria or Colby.
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Poirier said it's likely July or August in New Orleans. 5 month turn around is pretty standard unless it's a war and/or he gets KO'ed again. Funny enough, Geathje fought Fiziev in March 2023 and then fought Poirier late July 2023.

No chance on Colby for Poirier. He's said numerous times he doesn't want anything to do with Colby and he's not going to want to taint his retirement fight with bad blood and the clown show that Colby brings.

Topuria would check a lot of the boxes. It would be pretty ballsy to fight a prime aged Topuria, though. I was thinking Poirier would be angling for a similar aged legend like Gaethje, Charlie Olives, maybe Max again, and I'm sure his dream would be Nate.

Whatever it ends up being, I hope it's actually his final fight. I hate when these guys retire just to come out a year later for 1 more. Something tells me we'll see him in a boxing ring, though.
 
CDJ said:
Yeah I’ve seen speculation they’re making Topuria-Poirier, that would be a hell of a retirement fight
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Seems very WWE, an all time worker is going out, use him to put over an up and comer or established guy still trying to increase his name.

I don't like Topuria at 155 for previously discussed reasons but I think Poirer is the best case scenario for him. Smallish 155er (former 145), top 5 ranked, should run right through him and be next in line for a title shot.
 
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Saw an article that said Dariush let it slip they are trying to make Poirier-Max 3. Obviously not official, but Poirier-Max 3 for the BMF belt as the main event in New Orleans is more what I had in mind. Great send off for a real one like Poirier if that's what happens. Fun, action packed, either guy can reasonably win, etc.
 
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Wow didn’t see that coming. He was getting f***ed up by Clay Collard and going life and death with Myles Price (who? Exactly) last time we saw him in MMA. I imagine Mason Jones is going to f*** him up

I wonder if it’s a one-off. I honestly thought he was perfect for BKFC

Iowa has a pretty interesting card
 
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I know Stephens was a free agent and there was a bit of a contract dispute before his BKFC fight against Eddie but this is a weird move. I figured he'd try and cash in whether it be boxing or re-upping in BKFC. Maybe one last ufc fight in his hometown was more important to him.
 


Cards are low quality, not worth the money given such unknowns. Too many fighters are boring. Ignore fans at your own peril. Far too many in MMA community will criticize this opinion, but they are just protecting their business. No integrity.
 
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Makes sense, TKO/endeavor already sold RAW over there and it’s off to a good start for them.

I think the ppv f***up was the final straw for the ufc

I’m not certain a Netflix deal will come with a reduced # of cards
 
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Ppl talk about this crop of champs being boring- that only really applies to Belal and Big Ank and even then Ank has had some violent knockouts. It’s an incredibly talented, well-rounded group. Probably the most well-rounded group we’ve ever seen.
 
CDJ said:
Ppl talk about this crop of champs being boring- that only really applies to Belal and Big Ank and even then Ank has had some violent knockouts. It’s an incredibly talented, well-rounded group. Probably the most well-rounded group we’ve ever seen.
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I don't think it's about the champs being incredibly talented but more about the divisions being incredibly talented and the UFC making some of these 'boring' guys go unbeaten for like 7-10 fights before giving them a chance in some of the deeper divisions.

UFC is also starting to learn to stop using gatekeepers to block new talent from title fights. Topuria and Diego Lopes didn't have to fight Max BEFORE the title shot, giving these guys a chance to do something special and try to stop them from accumulating losses.

Also regarding the boring thing, I think it's more so personality because a lot of these guys put on some fun flights but there's no outlandish characters as champions right now. There's not a ton of drama or super draws with a belt. Which is fine but it does change perception.
 
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I know the last PPV had some issues, but what other technical issues are there with ESPN? I think their UI kinda sucks, but I haven't had many issues with it. Didn't Netflix have major issues with the Tyson-Paul fight? They could be jumping from the frying pan into the fire there.

And what's this mean for PPV? Are they going to start a new PPV model on Netflix? And expect no issues? Or would it be a new subscription tier? I can't imagine everything would be available on a standard Netflix sub.

Lastly, I don't feel sorry for ESPN one bit about the PPV numbers being down. Sure, they got a bit unlucky with not having a Conor, Ronda, Nate, Masvidal, etc. during their run, but it's largely their own doing. The content requirement has watered down cards which is the biggest issue with the product.
 
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I know the last PPV had some issues, but what other technical issues are there with ESPN? I think their UI kinda sucks, but I haven't had many issues with it. Didn't Netflix have major issues with the Tyson-Paul fight? They could be jumping from the frying pan into the fire there.

And what's this mean for PPV? Are they going to start a new PPV model on Netflix? And expect no issues? Or would it be a new subscription tier? I can't imagine everything would be available on a standard Netflix sub.

Lastly, I don't feel sorry for ESPN one bit about the PPV numbers being down. Sure, they got a bit unlucky with not having a Conor, Ronda, Nate, Masvidal, etc. during their run, but it's largely their own doing. The content requirement has watered down cards which is the biggest issue with the product.
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I’ve never really had issues with ESPN+ myself but i know a bunch of people have had issues with it glitching over the years, I know Luke Thomas has complained about them in the past even before the most recent ppv f***up
 
CDJ said:
I’ve never really had issues with ESPN+ myself but i know a bunch of people have had issues with it glitching over the years, I know Luke Thomas has complained about them in the past even before the most recent ppv f***up
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I'm sure there's been some glitches, but I've had glitches with Netflix, too. Just last night I was watching on my laptop, it started playing, buffered, I reloaded, and then I couldn't even get the Netflix homepage to load. Wasn't my internet connection because Hulu loaded and played immediately. And that's a prerecorded show, not live sports.

And again, Netflix had a pretty huge, public issue when they tried broadcasting a live sports event themselves.

So I don't know what issue they think they would be solving. Streaming is just not perfect yet, particularly for live events.

But whatever. I'm not against moving to Netflix, but it's going to depend on the rest of the structure. I just pray they get rid of having 40 events a year.
 
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