Red Sox/MLB 2025 Hot Stove - Mets land Juan Soto on 15-year, $765M deal

ON3M4N

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Impressive pitching development program? How many high end pitchers have the Red Sox developed in the last 10 years? If we had such an amazing pitching development program we wouldn't need to trade for top of the rotation pitchers and be in on guys like Roki & Burnes.

"Hey Roki, you remember Matsuzaka? Well he played for us 14yrs ago. We also had Uehara & Tazawa on our team about 9 years ago. We even had this guy named Okajima on our team back in 2011."

The only real "selling point" they could make is that the 4 Japanese pitchers mentioned above, all won a world series with the Red Sox.
 

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Impressive pitching development program? How many high end pitchers have the Red Sox developed in the last 10 years? If we had such an amazing pitching development program we wouldn't need to trade for top of the rotation pitchers and be in on guys like Roki & Burnes.

"Hey Roki, you remember Matsuzaka? Well he played for us 14yrs ago. We also had Uehara & Tazawa on our team about 9 years ago. We even had this guy named Okajima on our team back in 2011."

The only real "selling point" they could make is that the 4 Japanese pitchers mentioned above, all won a world series with the Red Sox.
3/5 of their rotation are homegrown talents and they’ve invested a ton into a pitching development engine this last year or two (basically going full driveline), they aren’t selling him on what happened 10 years ago they’re selling him on what is happening with their pitching development now


I bet he picks the Padres or something personally though. It’s not gonna come down to money since he’s technically an IFA and not an UFA
 
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3/5 of their rotation are homegrown talents and they’ve invested a ton into a pitching development engine this last year or two (basically going full driveline), they aren’t selling him on what happened 10 years ago they’re selling him on what is happening with their pitching development now


I bet he picks the Padres or something personally though. It’s not gonna come down to money since he’s technically an IFA and not an UFA

Correct, their 3,4,5 starters are homegrown talents. Not much to hang your hat on when you're talking about pitching development. Its not like they've develop 1's and 2's recently. Bello was rushed up to the team as a 23yr old (started the season in AA when he made his MLB debut), that's how bad the pitching staff was here. Houck & Crawford both came in as relivers, but again because Boston had no decent arms, they were converted to starters.
 

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I need Sasaki to sign with the Rockies to continue the theme of making terrible decisions. First, he passes up millions by refusing to wait a couple years to come to the MLB. And now he has the opportunity to sign with the team that's the worst park for pitchers.
 

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Correct, their 3,4,5 starters are homegrown talents. Not much to hang your hat on when you're talking about pitching development. Its not like they've develop 1's and 2's recently. Bello was rushed up to the team as a 23yr old (started the season in AA when he made his MLB debut), that's how bad the pitching staff was here. Houck & Crawford both came in as relivers, but again because Boston had no decent arms, they were converted to starters.
Tanner Houck was an all-star last year.
 
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FSG actually fooled Red Sox fans again hahahahaha when will you people learn? I said there was no chance Soto signs the minute it was rumored. Now FSG just not spending again after supposedly being willing to pay $700M to Soto? It's a f***ing joke.
 

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FSG actually fooled Red Sox fans again hahahahaha when will you people learn? I said there was no chance Soto signs the minute it was rumored. Now FSG just not spending again after supposedly being willing to pay $700M to Soto? It's a f***ing joke.

Who else is left that you want them to sign?

I wanted Fried, I'll pass on overpaying Burnes or Bregman (Story 2.0).

I'd take Teoscar and Buehler on a short term deals.
 

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Correct, their 3,4,5 starters are homegrown talents. Not much to hang your hat on when you're talking about pitching development. Its not like they've develop 1's and 2's recently. Bello was rushed up to the team as a 23yr old (started the season in AA when he made his MLB debut), that's how bad the pitching staff was here. Houck & Crawford both came in as relivers, but again because Boston had no decent arms, they were converted to starters.
Houck and Crawford (and Bello) were starters their entire time coming up in the org, they were developed as SP. What on earth are you talking about?

Tanner Houck literally developed into an all star starting pitcher and you’re not even going to give credit for that apparently so what’s even the point of this discussion lmao

They’ve invested a ton into this pitching apparatus since Breslow has gotten here and people find it to be impressive. A ton of major league pitchers seek out one of our consultants (Kyle Boddy) facilities in the offseason to improve their game. We’ve added other highly regarded pitching minds outside of Breslow in Bailey and Willard. In the unlikely event Sasaki does come here the new pitching development machine will probably play a factor. It was the primary reason why Giolito signed here to try and rebuild his value.
 
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