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Red Sox/MLB 2025 Hot Stove - Mets land Juan Soto on 15-year, $765M deal

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Smitty93 said:
This is the part that I have trouble getting over. If they had signed a top starter and a RH bat first, while maxing out payroll, I could understand this move. At that point, you'd have done everything else you could and a trade would be necessary to complete the roster.

As things stand, their period of contention isn't today. It's probably in 2-3 years when Anthony, Mayer, and Campbell are hopefully settled in (similar to how the timing of contention worked with Bogaerts, Betts, Devers, & Benintendi). Unless they were concerned about Teel and Montgomery losing significant value in the next year, I don't understand the need to make a move like this today (besides panic and desperation because Plan A, Plan B, etc failed firs).
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Teel struggled defensively this past season (though scouting think he'll clean that up). He blew through the lower levels offensively but struggled a bit in AAA. I still think he's going to be an everyday guy that has a good average and hits 15-20 homers while being a locker room leader. He's basically the least risky piece that CHI got. Montgomery is a wild card. I think many had him as a top 5 pick before his injury. There's questions around his contact and ability to remain as a switch hitter in pro ball. Of the pieces going to CHI, he has the biggest "boom" potential.

Chrochet gives you a 25yr old top of the rotation guy with 2yrs left of arbitration.
 
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Dennis Bonvie said:
Are Teel & Montgomery sure things?

Baseball is my 4th sport so I'm just askin'.
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I'm not a fan of arguments like this. It's the same mindset that's used to review all of Dombrowski's prospects and say how none of the prospects he moved turned out to be great. The point isn't that these prospects should be untouchable, it's how they're being utilized as assets. Maybe Ken Rosenthal is right and every Red Sox prospect is overrated and other teams are aware of that, so we overestimate the value of these packages.

But here's how I tend to view things. If you trade something that's been valued at $10 for something that's valued at $5, it shouldn't become a good deal because five years later what you traded is only worth $1. You still lost out on $5 of value on the original trade and that $5 of value could have gotten you something else.
 
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Smitty93 said:
I'm not a fan of arguments like this. It's the same mindset that's used to review all of Dombrowski's prospects and say how none of the prospects he moved turned out to be great. The point isn't that these prospects should be untouchable, it's how they're being utilized as assets. Maybe Ken Rosenthal is right and every Red Sox prospect is overrated and other teams are aware of that, so we overestimate the value of these packages.

But here's how I tend to view things. If you trade something that's been valued at $10 for something that's valued at $5, it shouldn't become a good deal because five years later what you traded is only worth $1. You still lost out on $5 of value on the original trade and that $5 of value could have gotten you something else.
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There was no argument.

Just a question.
 
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