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Prospect Info: 2025 DRAFT Thread

tunnelvision said:
If the draft was held today my final top-21 would be pretty close to this:
  1. Schaefer
  2. Misa
  3. Mrtka
  4. Martone
  5. Martin
  6. Hagens
  7. McQueen
  8. Smith
  9. Hensler
  10. Desnoyers
  11. Eklund
  12. O'Brien
  13. Frondell
  14. Bear
  15. Lakovic
  16. Boumedienne
  17. Carbonneau
  18. Spence
  19. Aitcheson
  20. Zonnon
  21. Potter

It's likely going to change a bit as I'll watch more shift-by-shifts next month. I need to get more viewings at least of Misa, Hagens, Eklund and Ryabkin.
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Why Frondell so low?
 
majormajor said:
So you think we should aggressively try and move up if Mrtka makes it to the 8-10 range? Where do you see Mrtka topping out in his prime?

Cam Robinson was saying that team scouts suggested to him that McQueen could be a big big faller, in which case, we seem well placed to take a swing. We have so many young players already, I'm more interested in a 25% chance of getting an all-star than a 100% chance of a getting a mid-lineup player.

Brady Martin I would love but that feeling about him appears to be universal, it doesn't seem like he'll make it anywhere close to our pick.
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Boring, all-situations D that plays 20+ minutes and can complement a more aggressive LD partner on 1st or 2nd pair, or form a good shut-down pair with defensive D. Regular on PK1 and could quarterback PP2.

Depends on the proposal but yes, I'd be very interested to trade up for Mrtka.

I'd be curious to see Cam's mock if he ever does those. McQueen is the most gifted forward of the class and I agree he has all-star upside but the % of his development not being set back by injuries might be lower than 25.

GoJackets1 said:
Why Frondell so low?
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I haven't seen many of his games in Sweden, but in U18s he was rather invisible most of the time. Puck skills, skating, playmaking and intensity level didn't indicate he's a high-end offensive talent. Most impressive quality for me was defensive positioning, he looked good at breaking up zone entries and being defensive support player in corner battles. He's got intelligence and strength to make right plays in those type of situations in offensive zone too. You can tell he's played against men.

But in terms of overall skillset and hockey sense, I don't know if he'll be more than a low-event middle-6 forward who may help at keeping pucks out of the net but doesn't get under the opponent's skin or contribute much offensively, especially if he isn't playing someone actually capable of carrying a line.
 
Pronman’s first mock has CBJ taking:

#14: LHD Cameron Reid (also sees Jackson Smith who is available at this point in his mock, so agree with Wheels).

#20: G Joshua Ravensbergen. Says with two first rounders the CBJ can afford to take a swing at big goalie with high upside.
 
tunnelvision said:
If the draft was held today my final top-21 would be pretty close to this:
  1. Schaefer
  2. Misa
  3. Mrtka
  4. Martone
  5. Martin
  6. Hagens
  7. McQueen
  8. Smith
  9. Hensler
  10. Desnoyers
  11. Eklund
  12. O'Brien
  13. Frondell
  14. Bear
  15. Lakovic
  16. Boumedienne
  17. Carbonneau
  18. Spence
  19. Aitcheson
  20. Zonnon
  21. Potter

It's likely going to change a bit as I'll watch more shift-by-shifts next month. I need to get more viewings at least of Misa, Hagens, Eklund and Ryabkin.
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Wheels and Pronman both have Frondell at 3 to Chicago. That’s a huge difference.
 
Doggy said:
Wheels and Pronman both have Frondell at 3 to Chicago. That’s a huge difference.
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Yeah but that's my own ranking whereas they're doing mocks. And whether they're personal lists or mock drafts, lists are going to look different as long as history keeps repeating itself. Below are three top-10 rankings for 2022 (row A) and 2023 (row B) draft, you can try and guess which 2022 and 2023 list are mine, which Wheeler's and which Pronman's:

123
A1. Wright
2. Nemec
3. Cooley
4. Savoie
5. Slafkovsky
6. Jiricek
7. Kemell
8. Lambert
9. Lekkerimaki
10. Howard		1. Nemec
2. Slafkovsky
3. Wright
4. Cooley
5. Jiricek
6. Mateychuk
7. Gauthier
8. Nazar
9. Mintyukov
10. Kasper		1. Slafkovsky
2. Wright
3. Cooley
4. Jiricek
5. Nemec
6. Gauthier
7. Kemell
8. Savoie
9. Kasper
10. Yurov
B1. Bedard
2. Carlsson
3. Fantilli
4. Honzek
5. Benson
6. Willander
7. But
8. Michkov
9. Reinbacher
10. Smith		1. Bedard
2. Fantilli
3. Michkov
4. Carlsson
5. Smith
6. Reinbacher
7. Danielson
8. Dvorsky
9. But
10. Simashev		1. Bedard
2. Michkov
3. Fantilli
4. Carlsson
5. Smith
6. Benson
7. Perreault
8. Dvorsky
9. Moore
10. Wood

Mine: A2 and B1
Wheeler: A1 and B3
Pronman: A3 and B2
 
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tunnelvision said:
Yeah but that's my own ranking whereas they're doing mocks. And whether they're personal lists or mock drafts, lists are going to look different as long as history keeps repeating itself. Below are three top-10 rankings for 2022 (row A) and 2023 (row B) draft, you can try and guess which 2022 and 2023 list are mine, which Wheeler's and which Pronman's:

123
A1. Wright
2. Nemec
3. Cooley
4. Savoie
5. Slafkovsky
6. Jiricek
7. Kemell
8. Lambert
9. Lekkerimaki
10. Howard		1. Nemec
2. Slafkovsky
3. Wright
4. Cooley
5. Jiricek
6. Mateychuk
7. Gauthier
8. Nazar
9. Mintyukov
10. Kasper		1. Slafkovsky
2. Wright
3. Cooley
4. Jiricek
5. Nemec
6. Gauthier
7. Kemell
8. Savoie
9. Kasper
10. Yurov
B1. Bedard
2. Carlsson
3. Fantilli
4. Honzek
5. Benson
6. Willander
7. But
8. Michkov
9. Reinbacher
10. Smith		1. Bedard
2. Fantilli
3. Michkov
4. Carlsson
5. Smith
6. Reinbacher
7. Danielson
8. Dvorsky
9. But
10. Simashev		1. Bedard
2. Michkov
3. Fantilli
4. Carlsson
5. Smith
6. Benson
7. Perreault
8. Dvorsky
9. Moore
10. Wood

Mine: A2 and B1
Wheeler: A1 and B3
Pronman: A3 and B2
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Ha, I guessed both of yours. You damn Mateychuk homer. I also remembered a couple folks here being pretty high on Honzek so assumed that was you as well.
 
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tunnelvision said:
Yeah but that's my own ranking whereas they're doing mocks. And whether they're personal lists or mock drafts, lists are going to look different as long as history keeps repeating itself. Below are three top-10 rankings for 2022 (row A) and 2023 (row B) draft, you can try and guess which 2022 and 2023 list are mine, which Wheeler's and which Pronman's:

123
A1. Wright
2. Nemec
3. Cooley
4. Savoie
5. Slafkovsky
6. Jiricek
7. Kemell
8. Lambert
9. Lekkerimaki
10. Howard		1. Nemec
2. Slafkovsky
3. Wright
4. Cooley
5. Jiricek
6. Mateychuk
7. Gauthier
8. Nazar
9. Mintyukov
10. Kasper		1. Slafkovsky
2. Wright
3. Cooley
4. Jiricek
5. Nemec
6. Gauthier
7. Kemell
8. Savoie
9. Kasper
10. Yurov
B1. Bedard
2. Carlsson
3. Fantilli
4. Honzek
5. Benson
6. Willander
7. But
8. Michkov
9. Reinbacher
10. Smith		1. Bedard
2. Fantilli
3. Michkov
4. Carlsson
5. Smith
6. Reinbacher
7. Danielson
8. Dvorsky
9. But
10. Simashev		1. Bedard
2. Michkov
3. Fantilli
4. Carlsson
5. Smith
6. Benson
7. Perreault
8. Dvorsky
9. Moore
10. Wood

Mine: A2 and B1
Wheeler: A1 and B3
Pronman: A3 and B2
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There's no need for a spoiler on Wheeler, just look for whoever puts small players like Savoie, Kemell, Lekkerimaki, and Howard far higher than they should be.
 
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