NHL Entry Draft: 2025 Draft Pick Watch

The Rangers can’t do anything right so they’ll find a way to not only screw up their draft position this year by winning meaningless games against playoff teams, but they’ll likely make the wrong decision to retain or move the pick to Pittsburgh after the lottery.

This franchise is an uninspiring sack of greasy trash.
 
The lottery is typically 2 weeks before the draft. I was holding out hope that the Rangers could muster enough heart to preserve their 2026 pick but now it's full tank. We are 10th OA currently and it's possible for us to go up 1-3 more spots. We're going to have to trade players away to get some 2026 draft capital back (pleasepleaseplease)
This isnt correct. The lottery occurs during the playoffs. Last year it was May 8th.
 
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"With the 8th overall pick, the New York Rangers are proud to select from the Brandon Wheat Kings, Roger McQueen."

1 year later...

"With the first overall pick, the Pittsburgh Penguins are proud to select..."

1 year later...

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NYR draft pick, Roger McQueen has retired from professional hockey due to recurring back issues.

Can't f***ing wait. :rolleyes:

The Rangers should do due diligence when looking at potential top draft picks with injury issues. An NHL GM can't operate just with assumptions regarding worse case scenarios. There is a worse case scenario for every living being on this planet---shit can happen to anyone at any time. Some guys in this draft did not play a lot last year. Not just McQueen but the potential #1 Matthew Schaefer. He had injury issues too.

Anyway the Rangers like other teams will have people at the NHL combine. They'll interview the players, their agents and they'll go over injury histories. A thing that might concern me more are any players with concussion histories.
 
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The Rangers should do due diligence when looking at potential top draft picks with injury issues. An NHL GM can't operate just with assumptions regarding worse case scenarios. There is a worse case scenario for every living being on this planet---shit can happen to anyone at any time. Some guys in this draft did not play a lot last year. Not just McQueen but the potential #1 Matthew Schaefer. He had injury issues too.

Anyway the Rangers like other teams will have people at the NHL combine. They'll interview the players, their agents and they'll go over injury histories. A thing that might concern me more are any players with concussion histories.

Schaefer broke a collar bone. McQueen has had significant back problems 2 years in a row now. They aren't really comparable and the reoccuring back stuff is a massive red flag in any player, let alone one this young.

I think people freaking out over the prospect of taking him are just doing what Ranger fans always do. I don't think he goes in the top half of this draft because of the issues+not looking all that great since returning.
 
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Schaefer broke a collar bone. McQueen has had significant back problems 2 years in a row now. They aren't really comparable and the reoccuring back stuff is a massive red flag in any player, let alone one this young.

I think people freaking out over the prospect of taking him are just doing what Ranger fans always do. I don't think he goes in the top half of this draft because of the issues+not looking all that great since returning.

If he can get over that issue he's probably the best power center in the draft which is a big deal. Pretty much Byfield size. For us it would be a fingers crossed pick and maybe not the best idea because you can get burned. OTOH pass him by----he could be the one we shake our heads about 4/5 years down the road as in---how did we not draft him.

It is early---when we really do know our draft position it should be easier to break down who and what. If we're picking 8/9 I'd be hoping Desnoyers falls a little and also thinking about Jackson Smith.
 
Unless there is a center prospect that has legit 1st line potential, I'm shipping this pick out regardless of where it lands, except top 3.

Struggles (scoring in NCAA was down) and all, if Hagens is there you take it and run, and you probably tell him to go back to school for one more year, unless you are fully committed to getting him the minutes he needs and being put in all the right spots. No more half assed ways with top prospects. PP1 time right away. We need to give roles to players that are under the age of 25 and let them grow in those roles.
 
The Rangers should do due diligence when looking at potential top draft picks with injury issues. An NHL GM can't operate just with assumptions regarding worse case scenarios. There is a worse case scenario for every living being on this planet---shit can happen to anyone at any time. Some guys in this draft did not play a lot last year. Not just McQueen but the potential #1 Matthew Schaefer. He had injury issues too.

Anyway the Rangers like other teams will have people at the NHL combine. They'll interview the players, their agents and they'll go over injury histories. A thing that might concern me more are any players with concussion histories.
Given this team’s history with top ten picks, you’re a lot more optimistic than I am.
 
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Unless there is a center prospect that has legit 1st line potential, I'm shipping this pick out regardless of where it lands, except top 3.

Struggles (scoring in NCAA was down) and all, if Hagens is there you take it and run, and you probably tell him to go back to school for one more year, unless you are fully committed to getting him the minutes he needs and being put in all the right spots. No more half assed ways with top prospects. PP1 time right away. We need to give roles to players that are under the age of 25 and let them grow in those roles.
He will not get past the Bruins.
 
This team can't develop shit

Teams don’t “develop” picks better or worse. It’s about the picks they make. If they have the talent/iq and put in the work required, they make it…that’s it.

Having an organizational identity and culture can help identify the right skillsets and instill a certain mindset/commitment in prospects as they’re exposed to the org…but no amount of lipstick on a pig will see it confused for anything but a pig. Perfect timing/fits for roster needs/system compatibility combined with talent/physical readiness are the biggest reasons young players thrive early - and usually great skating ability for offensive players. The inverse of any or any combo of those exacerbates. Teams offer feedback and provide nutrition/workout regimens…but that’s pretty standardized around the league…no team is providing groundbreaking insights there.

You either have, commit to doing what it takes, and you make it…or you don’t and you won’t. Timelines to reach ceilings vary wildly for a ton of reasons, both inside and outside players control, and there can be a fair amount of luck or lack of it involved in how a career plays out. At the end of the day though, its basically 99% scouting/drafting and 1% how much the org impacts development post-draft.
 
Given this team’s history with top ten picks, you’re a lot more optimistic than I am.

Well we don't have a lot of history with top 10 picks. Pavel Brendl and Jamie Lundmark in a draft full of busts. Lias in another draft full of busts. Kakko and Lafreniere---disappointing but both legit NHL players.

Speaking of the last two---Kakko's play bumped up after being moved to Seattle and has leveled off in the latter part of the year. But anyway it's not like they're not good players. I think sometimes things come too easy to top tier prospects. You look at guys like Cuylle and Rempe for instance. They're both 100% committed to getting better. They were never guaranteed anything and that helped motivate both to work harder to make it. Lafreniere and Kakko---things were given to them---maybe not power play time but neither of them has ever spent a moment in the AHL.....never really has even come up. They walked onto a NYC area team and everything that goes with that and never had to work that hard for their spots.

Looking at Rempe--I think he's still got a lot of improving he can do but from where he was when he was drafted to where he is now it's like light years. The guy is putting in the time and he's motivated. He doesn't need to be pushed. My sense is that neither Alexis or Kaapo are anywhere near as motivated. Part of development is also the player. The more a player wants the more he'll work for it.
 

This young Lad looks interesting....anyone know his play?
After the Ryan epoch, Jackson Dorrington and this guy will be the beginning of the Jackson epoch.
 
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if NYR lose out, they might get as high/low as 5th worst record/5th best lottery odds

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Best case Rangers win the lottery and have no qualms about keeping the ‘25 pick and moving the ‘26 pick to Pittsburgh.

Unfortunately the more and more I think about the Rangers needs and issues it’s going to take a LOT to go right to be a contender again next year:

- Front office stability: Is Dolan committed to Drury? Does Drury know how to build a contender? I think Dolan is willing to give Drury at least 1 more season to prove himself but it’s going to be a short leash after going thru 3 coaches and showing inability to get over the hump.

I question Drury’s competence in building a contender and more importantly creating a winning culture. His antics this past year have to have ruined the vibes and lost him some credibility with the team. He needs to settle down and not put the team on blast publicly. Also, his evaluation of defenseman is piss poor.

- Coaching. I think everyone knows Laviolette is on his last days. Do we replace him with a win-now coach (Quennville, Tortorella) or a younger, unproven coach that may better develop the youth? I would love to see the Rangers go a different direction than the same old retreads but I can’t see it. Honestly it would almost be too perfect for Rangers to go with Quennville and bring even more unnecessary distractions to the team.

- Goaltending: Igor is a proud guy and I have faith he can rebound with a better defensive structure in front oh him. I have a little less faith in Quick as he’s getting up there in age. Hopefully the team signs another depth netminder and gives Garand some rope if he continues improving.

- Defense: Fox is a lock to stay. I think Schneider and Miller probably are worth keeping around but we need a coaching staff to help them simplify their decision making. They have the wheels and offensive toolkit to contribute more but need to be encouraged to rush the puck and simplify the game defensively.

Borgen and Jones: May be a solid bottom pair defensemen. Jones might blossom now that he’s gotten an extended run but again he needs a coaching staff that believes in him. Borgen adds physicality that the FO loves.

Vaikkaneinen, Soucy, De Haan, other vets: Move on. They aren’t part of a winning team.

Prospects: Emery is not a long term solution due to his nonextistant offense. If we can move him we should.

We need at least 1 more top pair/ top 4 defenseman. If we can sign a Provovov, Schmidt, Gavrikov or someone at that level that would go a long way towards solidifying the defense.

- Forwards:
Panarin: Keeper. I think FO is committed to making a run ASAP and he’s currently our most dangerous offensive weapon. If we start to falter again next year and are looking at a full rebuild then we should consider moving him out to restock the farm but I would love to see him lead the team on deep playoff runs.

Kreider: Goner. Hes had his share of memorable moments but he’s been checked out for too long and we need the cap space. At his best he was one of a kind - big, strong, fast, great shot, amazing hands in front of the net but his inconsistency in asserting himself always left me wanting more.

Zibanejad: Goner (if we can find a taker). His lack of physical engagement / involvement and passiveness when it comes to shooting are pathetic. He used to want to dominate games but he’s become a passenger and again we need the cap space. If we can move him without taking on any toxic contracts or retaining too much we have to do it. Otherwise shift him to the wing.


Miller / Trocheck: Both of them must know we need more from them and I can see them coming in next year to set a no nonsense environment. Hopefully they are able to command the room and deliver. They are Drury’s boys so I can’t see him moving on from either.


Lafreniere: So disappointed in him. He has been riding off a few great shifts when he shows off his offensive talent. Signed his extension Oct 25th. 70 games, 35 points, and -18 since 10/26.

Too many shifts he does a fly by forecheck, coasts back to the defensive zone and then goes for a lackadaisical change. Even in the offensive zone I rarely see him try to beat a defender one on one or do anything more than just swing the puck around. He rarely displays the puck skills, skating or talent to make a difference on the scoresheet. Yes he scores at 5v5 but more so he’s the benefactor of his line setting him up rather than creating opportunities for himself.

I am really really really hoping he gets a spring in his step and some of Miller’s tenacity rubs off on him. At his best he carries the puck with ease and drives to the net consistently and engages physically. Otherwise I think this contract can become an albatross quickly and wouldn’t be opposed to moving him for a young cost controlled center if we have a chance.

Perrault/ Berard/ Rempe / Edstrom / Cuylle / Othmann: Need to put them in a spot to develop and get more and more reps.

Carrick / Brodzinski: Move on from them. They aren’t long term solutions and while they provide some veteran cover for the youngsters in the bottom 6 if we can recoup any assets at all we should do so. Carrick is great but for a 4C he’s undersized and Brodzinski doesn’t do enough to move the needle.

Sign an impact UFA to strengthen and bolster the top 6. I wouldn’t be opposed to Marner, Ehlers, Bennett, or Marchand (at the right price).

Overall Rangers need more impact players, allow the youth time to learn and grow, and move on from the vets that aren’t living up their roles and cap hits. This is going to be a HUGE summer. With draft lottery luck, the right coaching hire, and shrewd trades and signings we can go back to being a contender but unfortunately I don’t have too much faith in this team. Let’s hope they prove me wrong.
 
Schneider is not really a problem. Schneider's made both Jones and Vaakanainen look better than they really are. K'Andre's play this year has been really bad. I don't know if the Trouba shit played a part in his psychology this year but he's made so many mental mistakes. He's a young D and he has talent and he should be playing better than he is. I've heard it mentioned that he doesn't look like he's having fun. I think Drury or whoever replaces Drury needs to sit down with him and talk things over before sticking a long term contract in his face. Find out if he even really wants to be here.....because if he doesn't you have to move him. If he wants to stay then judging off this season he's going to need to compromise on his numbers because he just didn't play well.

For me looking at this draft---Jackson Smith is considered the second best D and it's not really a debate. There's a good chance he's around at 10/11. If we're picking even earlier if he's there you have to seriously consider him. In time he might not be the best pick for where we take him but I think he's going to be a really good pick anyway.
 
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The Rangers should do due diligence when looking at potential top draft picks with injury issues. An NHL GM can't operate just with assumptions regarding worse case scenarios. There is a worse case scenario for every living being on this planet---shit can happen to anyone at any time. Some guys in this draft did not play a lot last year. Not just McQueen but the potential #1 Matthew Schaefer. He had injury issues too.

Anyway the Rangers like other teams will have people at the NHL combine. They'll interview the players, their agents and they'll go over injury histories. A thing that might concern me more are any players with concussion histories.
See also Cherepanov.
 
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He will not get past the Bruins.
Well of course, they need a franchise center too. But if the Rangers leapfrog them and go in the top 3, it has to be done. You forfeit the pick next season and don't look back.

There also has to be a point where they fall to that the value of this year's pick is much better than the chance of a high pick next season. I don't think it is 10th as it currently sits, but if you have the 5th or 6th pick (lose out with help), it makes sense to defer this out, even if you don't anticipate being a postseason team next year.
 
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Unless we pick in the top-8, transfer the pick. This team may be picking in the top-5 next year. It's fundamentally broken.
I’d be doing things to this roster in the offseason to clear out most of the vets, so… probably a wise idea.
 
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Getting rid of the country club vets will make us better, not worse. We will also be replacing them with hopefully, better players who care.
Not sure free agency is gonna get you better players. It’s gonna get you players who have major flaws in other ways.

And even if it could you’d just be patching holes, you’re not gonna build a contender with a few Will Borgen or Eric Gustafson additions. You need to find foundational pieces and that probably means draft or trade.
 
After last night, we are in the 12th spot. It's looking like we will end up somewhere between 10th and 13th.

Hopefully we won't get any more points and will fall to at least 11th so we have a shot at the 1st overall pick.
 
Well we don't have a lot of history with top 10 picks. Pavel Brendl and Jamie Lundmark in a draft full of busts. Lias in another draft full of busts. Kakko and Lafreniere---disappointing but both legit NHL players.

Speaking of the last two---Kakko's play bumped up after being moved to Seattle and has leveled off in the latter part of the year. But anyway it's not like they're not good players. I think sometimes things come too easy to top tier prospects. You look at guys like Cuylle and Rempe for instance. They're both 100% committed to getting better. They were never guaranteed anything and that helped motivate both to work harder to make it. Lafreniere and Kakko---things were given to them---maybe not power play time but neither of them has ever spent a moment in the AHL.....never really has even come up. They walked onto a NYC area team and everything that goes with that and never had to work that hard for their spots.

Looking at Rempe--I think he's still got a lot of improving he can do but from where he was when he was drafted to where he is now it's like light years. The guy is putting in the time and he's motivated. He doesn't need to be pushed. My sense is that neither Alexis or Kaapo are anywhere near as motivated. Part of development is also the player. The more a player wants the more he'll work for it.

I just want to point out on thing you wrote and its not what you wrote, but something ive been chewing on since day one that we saw red flags with Lias.

NYR obviously scouted Chytil hard. Proof in the pudding that we traded for Hajek later. One of our scouts was hounding that Czech squad.

The fact we chose Lias with Necas still available, who was tied to Chytils hip is an Epic gaffe that just goes hand in hand with other gaffes our Scouting Dept or whoever over-rides them at the draft table commits almost religiously.

We could have had Necas and Chytil. But chose the brat that threw his Medal and pouted non-stop from day one. Because his father was a high motor swiss army knife player who is highly respected in the pro hockey community and somehow that projected onto Lias character which eventually proved to be the polar opposite. Confusing competitiveness with ego.
 

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