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Larkin. That would be hilarious on Yzerman's part.
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2025 NHL Draft prospects: Corey Pronman updates his ranking ahead of the lottery
How did Corey Pronman's 2025 NHL Draft big board change ahead of the lottery and with the 2025 IIHF U18 World Championships concluded?
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I know lots of people hate Mrtka, but I can see a case for him if all of the gritty guys and all the skilled guys in what is expected to be a shallow draft pool are gone by the time we pick. We don't need Mrtka to be a top pairing guy since we have Mo and Ed. He would be perfectly fine as a second pairing guy who can eat up lots of time 5v5 and on the PK.Martin at 10 and Smith at 20 , but what do I know2025 NHL Draft prospects: Corey Pronman updates his ranking ahead of the lottery
How did Corey Pronman's 2025 NHL Draft big board change ahead of the lottery and with the 2025 IIHF U18 World Championships concluded?
Our right side would be a real strength with Mo, Mrtka and ASP.
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Martin at 10 and Smith at 20 , but what do I know2025 NHL Draft prospects: Corey Pronman updates his ranking ahead of the lottery
How did Corey Pronman's 2025 NHL Draft big board change ahead of the lottery and with the 2025 IIHF U18 World Championships concluded?
Smith has a lot of tools but looks like a super project to me.
If he hits his high end you might get Chabot.
If he misses we have another Haydn Fleury.
I’m not sure what I would project his middle ground to be.
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No thanks. He doesn’t seem to have very high hockey sense, is not as good offensively as his numbers suggest, and is not very physical at all. 5’11” ASP is way more physical.
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I think Larkin becomes a top 6 LW as they get older in this scenario
imagine this center depth chart :
LARKIN
MISA
KASPER
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I like him a lot and I just think he is less physical Edvinsson. It's big guy who could skate and I don't care if he is rd . All those defansman always switched their sides . If he is the best player we st take him
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I'm kind of burned out from the Ken Holland era where we drafted loads of defensemen who weren't good in their own end, so I can't really feel that great about Smith.
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Send him to Europe for a season or two and let him learn the ways of the Kronwall. He's from Czechia.
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I don’t think it’ll be enough. Aggression and isn’t really learned or improved much as a skill. A player either has that killer instinct or not.
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To be honest I haven't seen a single second of his play. Reading a bit on him, he's very mobile for his size and if we can get Kronwall to iron out his defensive play we could have a really strong defense. We're not getting 90+ point forwards with loads of skill, we've spent decent draft capital on Cossa and Augustine, so I think building a strong defense is going to be our ticket.
I think this is pretty fair. In this class I think it is also fair to take him at 12OA
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Ed and Mo are plenty physical. I can see the case for Mrtka as 6'6" highly mobile defensive defenseman. We've had lots of success drafting defenders, so if our staff like Mrtka I'm fine with that.
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We are blast to have Kronwall and whoever we take Martin, Atchison, Smith, Mrtka or someone else I hope next season they are in SHL.
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This team needs MOAR HITZ!!
Jokes aside, I’m not a fan of picking a big guy that’s ‘a good skater for a big guy’. Or picking a big guy that doesn’t use his size. Mrtka is my absolute least favorite prospect ranked in the top 15.
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Mrtka would be easy because he's from Czechia and the only reason he went to the WHL was because he wasn't getting playing time. That wouldn't be a problem if we draft him.
Again, I've never seen him play, just looking at where he's projected to go and that's 12 according to Pronman and 11 according to Bob. We've also had lots of success drafting Euro defenders so if Hakan and his crew like Mrtka that's good enough for me.
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I get that. I'm not pounding the table for him or anything like that, just putting 2+2 together based on his prospect rankings from two sources. I'm just saying if our scouts like him I'd be fine with the pick.
The upside of taking him, is that right handed defensemen with good mobility are always in demand in the trade market. He doesn't put wind in my sails but I am not going to act like this prototype isn't in high demand.
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He’s one I’d be supremely disappointed in our scouts for picking. His size is a great advantage over 17 year olds in the WHL. That will diminish without any plus level tools has he moves up in levels.
His skating is not a weakness but nearly as high end as Edvinsson, and I don’t think it’s even at Seider’s level at the same age. Good mobility for his size =/= good mobility.
Mrtka’s handling gives me ‘junior scoring D’ vibes. It’s slightly above average at junior. I don’t think this skill is a plus level when he moves up.
Shot? I have mixed feelings on. From the point it’s Hard but not accurate. Doesn’t use it enough.
Passing is above average but he’s not going to be used as your ppqb unless your team is tank level.
Hockey sense: average. I like his poise and his panic threshold is relatively high. I haven’t him developing advanced plays with the puck and I haven’t seen him read a play and shut it down before it happens.
Physicality? I’m sure he’s thrown a hit, though I’ve never seen it.
TLDR: I think Mrtka is going to play games because his size and draft pedigree. I also think he’s a major project with huge bust potential and no real player identity. Everyone loves big defensemen which is going to push his stock higher. I’m hoping someone like the Buffalo, Rags or NYI gamble on him.
Also, the athletic hockey podcast talked about this draft and how thin it is on D. Mrtka was discussed as the 2nd best D this year but would have been lucky to be the 6th off the board last year.
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I feel reasonably confident Mrtka will be gone so it won't be an issue, but agree with others that I'm not very interested.
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I’d be so cool with Mrtka and McQueen going one the board before we pick. I am shocked McQueen came in at #8 with how his season has gone.
I would be totally good with picking Bear or Aitcheson at our pick. Would be lovely if Eklund could slide a few spots and be there.
I think in a draft like this one it’s pretty silly not to have Carbonneau in the top 16, but to each their own. Would be very happy if Detroit picks him.
I’d be so cool with Mrtka and McQueen going one the board before we pick. I am shocked McQueen came in at #8 with how his season has gone.
I would be totally good with picking Bear or Aitcheson at our pick. Would be lovely if Eklund could slide a few spots and be there.
I think in a draft like this one it’s pretty silly not to have Carbonneau in the top 16, but to each their own. Would be very happy if Detroit picks him.
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