2025 DRAFT Discussion

[lilidk]

o'brien, is my number 1 choice if draft around 10, I think he will progress big as his skating improve. Will not complain Someone between Smith , Mrtka. Also tough guys Aitcheson, Bear and Martin .

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[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

RFA signings:

Soderbolm, 3 years, 9 million total
Jonatan Berggren, 2 years, 4 million total
Albert Johansson, 2 years, 7 million total
Alexander Romanov, 7 years, 42 million total
Nicolas Hague, 5 years, 20 million total

EDIT 3:

ELC signings:

Dimitri Buchelnikov
Trey Augustine
Jesse Kiiskinen
Anton Johansson

Elmer Söderblom(3.0)​	Dylan Larkin [C](8.7)​	Lucas Raymond(8.08)​
Alex DeBrincat(7.88)​	Evgeni Malkin(6.1)​	Vladimir Tarasenko(4.75)​
Dimitri Buchelnikov(950k)​	Marco Kasper(887k)​	Carter Mazur(906k)​
Andrew Copp(5.63)​	Austin Watson(775k)​	Dominik Shine(775k)​

Injured/Unavailable:
Scratched: ​

LD​	RD​
Ben Chiarot(4.75)​	Moritz Seider(8.55)​
Simon Edvinsson(894k)​	Albert Johansson(4.5)​
Alexander Romanov(6.0)​	Justin Holl(3.4)​

Injured/Unavailable:
Scratched: Nicolas Hague(4.0)​

G​
Cam Talbot(2.5)​
Petr Mrázek(4.25)​

Injured/Unavailable:
Scratched:

Trades:
Berggren for Hague
Malkin, 71, for Compher, Rasmussen, Plante, 43
Carter Bear, Antti Tuomisto for Alexander Romanov
Gustafsson, James for 79
2025 5th Utah (#141) for Detroit 2026 4th
#203, #207 for #180.

Draft picks:
71. Tommy Lafreniere
75. Melvin Novotny
76. Dakota Rheaume-Mullen
79. Lucas Funck
118. Owen Martin
139. Mads Kongsbak Klyvo
141. Sam Laurila
154. Graham Jones
171. Carson Cameron
180.Luke Vlooswyk


Cap:
87.88(anyone under a million got a million in the calculation)​

Also got an offer to re-sign Kane.


So that's the end of my draft this time.

EDIT: I didn't move the lines around.

 

[lilidk]

RFA signings:

Soderbolm, 3 years, 9 million total
Jonatan Berggren, 2 years, 4 million total
Albert Johansson, 2 years, 7 million total
Alexander Romanov, 7 years, 42 million total
Nicolas Hague, 5 years, 20 million total

EDIT 3:

ELC signings:

Dimitri Buchelnikov
Trey Augustine
Jesse Kiiskinen
Anton Johansson

Elmer Söderblom(3.0)​	Dylan Larkin [C](8.7)​	Lucas Raymond(8.08)​
Alex DeBrincat(7.88)​	Evgeni Malkin(6.1)​	Vladimir Tarasenko(4.75)​
Dimitri Buchelnikov(950k)​	Marco Kasper(887k)​	Carter Mazur(906k)​
Andrew Copp(5.63)​	Austin Watson(775k)​	Dominik Shine(775k)​

Injured/Unavailable:
Scratched: ​

LD​	RD​
Ben Chiarot(4.75)​	Moritz Seider(8.55)​
Simon Edvinsson(894k)​	Albert Johansson(4.5)​
Alexander Romanov(6.0)​	Justin Holl(3.4)​

Injured/Unavailable:
Scratched: Nicolas Hague(4.0)​

G​
Cam Talbot(2.5)​
Petr Mrázek(4.25)​

Injured/Unavailable:
Scratched:

Trades:
Berggren for Hague
Malkin, 71, for Compher, Rasmussen, Plante, 43
Carter Bear, Antti Tuomisto for Alexander Romanov
Gustafsson, James for 79
2025 5th Utah (#141) for Detroit 2026 4th
#203, #207 for #180.

Draft picks:
71. Tommy Lafreniere
75. Melvin Novotny
76. Dakota Rheaume-Mullen
79. Lucas Funck
118. Owen Martin
139. Mads Kongsbak Klyvo
141. Sam Laurila
154. Graham Jones
171. Carson Cameron
180.Luke Vlooswyk


Cap:
87.88(anyone under a million got a million in the calculation)​

Also got an offer to re-sign Kane.


So that's the end of my draft this time.

EDIT: I didn't move the lines around.

ASP.?

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

ASP.?

Good call.

Turns out, he just got signed.

 

[Oddbob]

Why do people like Hague so much? He has bad stats on a good team with limited minutes. Imagine how bad they would get on our team.

 

[JohanFranzenstein]

Why do people like Hague so much? He has bad stats on a good team with limited minutes. Imagine how bad they would get on our team.

Fits the window. He's big. Hard to play against. Possible untapped potential in a different system.

My gut says younger Chiarot though.

 

[Frk It]

some datsyuk thievery from desnoyers to win it in OT

I’m not sure what to think of this guy, I watched a decent amount of clips on him this weekend.

I wish he skated a little better and I thought he was bigger? (EP has him listed at 6’2, but central scouting has him at 6’0). I like the IQ and skill though, and he is not a perimeter player at all.

I’m fine with taking him high if you think he can continue to make gains with the skating.

 

[lilidk]

I’m not sure what to think of this guy, I watched a decent amount of clips on him this weekend.

I wish he skated a little better and I thought he was bigger? (EP has him listed at 6’2, but central scouting has him at 6’0). I like the IQ and skill though, and he is not a perimeter player at all.

I’m fine with taking him high if you think he can continue to make gains with the skating.

He will not be available for Red Wings

 

[wingerdinger]

Why do people like Hague so much? He has bad stats on a good team with limited minutes. Imagine how bad they would get on our team.

What do you mean by bad stats?

 

[Oddbob]

What do you mean by bad stats?

Only regular minus player among their blueliners. He doesn't have any stats that look great. Not saying he is terrible, but people keep mentioning him like he is really good. He would play higher minutes here, and if he can't handle 16-17 a game all that well with them, how will he handle 1-3 more a game with us?

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

I’m not sure what to think of this guy, I watched a decent amount of clips on him this weekend.

I wish he skated a little better and I thought he was bigger? (EP has him listed at 6’2, but central scouting has him at 6’0). I like the IQ and skill though, and he is not a perimeter player at all.

I’m fine with taking him high if you think he can continue to make gains with the skating.

I’ve been like warm on him but I can see the appeal of a player like him in a pretty mid draft. He might become an ideal 2C. PLD minus being a headcase or maybe Braydon Schenn type of impact. I get a feeling he’s gone by 5 or 6. I don’t imagine he’s a bust but I don’t expect him to become a true 1st line talent.

 

[Frk It]

I’ve been like warm on him but I can see the appeal of a player like him in a pretty mid draft. He might become an ideal 2C. PLD minus being a headcase or maybe Braydon Schenn type of impact. I get a feeling he’s gone by 5 or 6. I don’t imagine he’s a bust but I don’t expect him to become a true 1st line talent.

He kind of reminds me of Barrett Hayton.

 

[steezwing]

1.Misa

2.Scaefer
Frondell
Hagens
Desnoyers
Eklund
Martone

3.O'Brien
McQueen

Tier list super hopeful we could get a forward but Schaefer is sick. Been loving Frondell lately and could see some big upside. His current Allsvenskan numbers are comparable to Pettersson in his draft year
his got decent size, amazing shot/hands and his iq looks great. he will prob be gone before the wings get a chance realistically

 

[wingerdinger]

Only regular minus player among their blueliners. He doesn't have any stats that look great. Not saying he is terrible, but people keep mentioning him like he is really good. He would play higher minutes here, and if he can't handle 16-17 a game all that well with them, how will he handle 1-3 more a game with us?

No I just wanted a broader context. Ive watched a lot of Vegas since I think Im going to pick them as my stanley cup team for my playoff pool.

I really struggle when evaluating Hague. He does seem very inconsistent at best. He seems to lose concentration too frequently to be a top top defender. Maybe if he had a bigger role that allowed him to be more engaged in games he'd be able to maintain focus. But it's correct to be cautious about Hague.

 

[Rzombo4 prez]

I’m not sure what to think of this guy, I watched a decent amount of clips on him this weekend.

I wish he skated a little better and I thought he was bigger? (EP has him listed at 6’2, but central scouting has him at 6’0). I like the IQ and skill though, and he is not a perimeter player at all.

I’m fine with taking him high if you think he can continue to make gains with the skating.

I absolutely love him. I think he reads the play really, really well and makes plays at pro speed, which I really value (and think also bodes well for playing center long-term). Personally I think there is more puck skill than advertised but the skating is slightly overrated as you mention (though still fine).

If you take him around 5 or 6, I don't think you are passing on significantly more skilled forward options. Like others I think he is long-gone before we pick.

 

[Rzombo4 prez]

He kind of reminds me of Barrett Hayton.

Hayton played a heavier, more physical game at that age though. Similar skill level perhaps.

 

[MBauer]

Only regular minus player among their blueliners. He doesn't have any stats that look great. Not saying he is terrible, but people keep mentioning him like he is really good. He would play higher minutes here, and if he can't handle 16-17 a game all that well with them, how will he handle 1-3 more a game with us?

He's actually terrible, one of the worst D in the league.

Like you said, can't handle bottom pairing on a great team, he would get eaten alive here. I guess he can be the future Chiarot replacement, but he's somehow worse.


Seems like we will most likely be locked in at 9 or 10 this draft, just hoping we somehow don't get jumped by a team behind us with our lotto luck.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

He kind of reminds me of Barrett Hayton.

Also a top 5 pick. I can see it. I’d be very disappointed if that was how our top 10 pick turned out though.

 

[deca guard]

hensler has moved up into my top two with jackson . yes i realize hes a righty but im all for BPA = sort things out later if need be . carbonneau makes my current top 3 in whats predictably our pick area

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[Rolo Tomassi]

This is going to be the year we finally win the draft lottery.

 

[ShanahanMan]

Can already tell you right now, it’s gonna be Milton Gastrin.

Euro, “two way center who back checks well, good leadership and character qualities and high hockey iq”.

This literally has Steve and Draper’s MO all over it.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

Can already tell you right now, it’s gonna be Milton Gastrin.

Euro, “two way center who back checks well, good leadership and character qualities and high hockey iq”.

This literally has Steve and Draper’s MO all over it.

Nope.

 

[ShanahanMan]

Nope.

Book it on draft day.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

Book it on draft day.

Ok, call the stakes.

I say, Detroit doesn't take Gastrin on day one of the draft with their 1st pick.

 

[ShanahanMan]

Ok, call the stakes.

I say, Detroit doesn't take Gastrin on day one of the draft with their 1st pick.

Who do you think they’re taking at 12-15?