goldenblack
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This gap from #4 to #7 really doesn't seem THAT bad
I don't think it's terrible either but it does get a little questionable after 5 imo.This gap from #4 to #7 really doesn't seem THAT bad
Eichel, not leaving Vegas, .........lockI can’t see Eichel having anything left to prove in Vegas
Donskov was his assistant coach, time to return to where it all started
Geekie - Eichel- Pastrnak
Lock
I salute your optimism.This gap from #4 to #7 really doesn't seem THAT bad
I don't think it's terrible either but it does get a little questionable after 5 imo.
The thing about this draft is after Schaefer and Misa (who almost everyone has as 1, 2) there's a whole bunch of guys that are arguably equal and they all have skills in one area and flaws in another so while they still have potential high ceilings they also have lower floors. There is a potential negative argument for every single one of them. Anybody who can claim definitively that this guy is better than that guy in this draft is full of it.
I personally still want Desnoyers. He might be there, he might not. There's a bunch of other options I'd be fine with. The only top guy that concerns me (and so I'd stay away) is McQueen. I liked him earlier, but I think that's a huge gamble, and when you pick at 7 you don't gamble. You need to get this pick right.
Again, just don't get cute and overthink things. That is a Sweeney characteristic.I’m not trading to move up it’s not worth it. But If Eklund and/or one of the D goes before we are up and you have more than one of Desnoyers, O’Brien, Martin left, I would absolutely consider trading back a spot or so if you know you could still get one of those centers at #8 if you could also get Seattles 38thOA even if you have to swap it with your late 2nd.
Made me think of Gord Klusak"Evaluating...'
Per Perplexity AI,
Anton Frondell, a top prospect for the 2025 NHL Draft, has experienced notable injury setbacks during the 2024-25 season, primarily involving his knee. These injuries impacted his early-season performance and draft stock but did not prevent him from returning to form in the latter part of the year.
Detailed Injury Timeline
Knee Surgery (September 2024): Frondell underwent knee surgery in September 2024, which was expected to sideline him for 3–4 weeks. Reports at the time indicated that the injury was not expected to significantly impact his season, but it did delay his start and affected his early-season performance.
Multiple Knee Issues (2024-25 Season): There are references to Frondell having "multiple knee injuries and a knee surgery" during the 2024-25 campaign, leading to concerns about his long-term durability and prompting teams to seek a clear medical assessment before making significant commitments.
General Injury Struggles (Early 2024-25): Injuries and a packed schedule were cited as factors that disrupted his consistency and production during the first half of the season. These issues led to his omission from Sweden’s World Junior Championship roster in late 2024.
Recent Status and Recovery
Current Health
By the second half of the 2024-25 season, Frondell was reported to be fully healthy and performing at a high level. He himself stated, “I’ve honestly forgotten about the injuries for a while now, and it feels like I’m settling into the game and am fully back. The injuries are behind me, and my body is 110 percent now”. This sentiment was echoed by his coaches and in media coverage, noting his strong return to form and increased productivity as the season progressed.
Performance Post-Injury
After recovering, Frondell became a key player for Djurgårdens IF in the HockeyAllsvenskan, finishing the season with impressive statistics and helping his team secure promotion to the SHL.
He also returned to Sweden’s U18 national team, participating in the Under-18 World Junior Championship and contributing to a silver medal performance.
Summary Table: Anton Frondell’s Recent Injury Timeline
DateInjury/EventImpact/Outcome
September 2024Knee surgeryMissed 3–4 weeks, delayed start to season
Fall 2024Ongoing knee issuesMissed WJC roster, inconsistent early performance
Early 2025Full recovery reportedReturned to form, strong finish to season
Conclusion
Anton Frondell’s injury history centers on knee problems, including surgery in September 2024 and additional issues that hampered his early 2024-25 season. However, he has since made a full recovery, with no reported lingering effects or recent injuries as of May 2025. Frondell has emphasized that he feels fully healthy, and his late-season performance supports this claim.
I think most of the high scoring JR players who don't become good NHL players is less about situation or development and more about the differences in levels. There are things that work in the junior leagues that don't work in the NHL.... or if they work in the NHL it's because you have elite physical gifts (strength/size/speed).I don't know that I'd say it doesn't mean much. Does it hold more weight than it should? maybe. I've always wondered how much of a prospect not reaching their potential is on them and how much on the team that drafted them. I feel there are guys that, if put in a different situation would thrive. How many offensive minded prospects have we seen the Bruins draft and then tell them to focus on their defensive game for 3-4 years. In the midst of doing that, their offense starts to struggle and they lose confidence in their game. Next thing you know, they don't live up to their potential and we have another wasted pick.
Knee surgery is never a good thing at any age, obviously.Made me think of Gord Klusak
Going off this I would go Eklund then Martin. Compete is great, Eklund with the edge with his skating. I feel better about 7oa, still fear SweengeniusPronman released an article titled "A case for (and against) picking the top forward prospects in 2025 NHL Draft" which I thought might be relevant to this discussion.
At the bottom, he includes a chart ranking five different skills which I replicated below.
Link: A case for (and against) picking the top forward prospects in 2025 NHL Draft
Player Skating Puck Skills Hockey Sense Compete ShotMichael Misa 4 4 4 4 4Porter Martone 2 5 3 4 4Caleb Desnoyers 3 4 4 4 3James Hagens 4 5 4 3 3Anton Frondell 3 4 3 4 5Jake O'Brien 3 4 4 4 2Victor Eklund 4 4 3 5 4Roger McQueen 3 4 3 4 3Brady Martin 3 4 3 5 4
Oh buddy, I’ll get super freakin cute:Again, just don't get cute and overthink things. That is a Sweeney characteristic.
Select the guy with the most elite talent, regardless of position. Obviously, I strongly prefer a center.
I can see Frondell's injuries giving some teams pause for thought. Bruins can't screw this draft up. I'm sure they have a handle on the health of the top prospects and hopefully make the right choice.Knee surgery is never a good thing at any age, obviously.
Frondell turned 18 on 7 May. He apparently sustained significant knee injuries previously, and then underwent knee surgery at age 17.
That is a flag. I doubt he will be available after selection seven. If he falls past the Bruins pick, perhaps they can select him with their second pick.
Depending on how the board shakes out, I would not select Frondell at #7.
Donny cant miss a high pick like this . Hopefully.What a Fup that pick was.
What the heck did the Bruins see in Hamill?
I surely hope we hit on this pick, we need it.
you stole my listMy Bruins ranking (who I would pick in order) is this, subject to change:
Schaefer
Misa
Hagens
Desnoyers
Frondell
O’Brien
Martone
If you watch the limited tape this season on McQueen you would swear he would be at worst 3rd overall without the back thing. If his medicals check out he may go before the Bruins pick pushing someone down.
Martone seems to be more playmaker / opportunist to sniper right now. He's behind Carbonneau in that department IMO who is just lethal. Def can see him in the top 10
I'll believe it when I see it.I can see Frondell's injuries giving some teams pause for thought. Bruins can't screw this draft up. I'm sure they have a handle on the health of the top prospects and hopefully make the right choice.
I think most of the high scoring JR players who don't become good NHL players is less about situation or development and more about the differences in levels. There are things that work in the junior leagues that don't work in the NHL.... or if they work in the NHL it's because you have elite physical gifts (strength/size/speed).
I think of a guy like Kyle Wellwood 118 pts in 65 games in the OHL in his draft year. But he was 5'10, slow, and not naturally athletic. He had great vision and passing, but when you are in the NHL players are bigger, stronger and faster and there just isn't the time you have in JR. All it takes is that fraction of a second less time to make the difference in a player making a play and getting knocked off the puck.
Me too! Hopefully there are no surprises with that 7th pick.I'll believe it when I see it.
There might well be a surprise.Me too! Hopefully there are no surprises with that 7th pick.
Oh boy. Not sure that’s a good omen.you stole my list
Wait what? A knee surgery isn’t a huge deal. You think he’s getting anywhere outside the top 9 much less the second round you’re seeing things that aren’t there.Knee surgery is never a good thing at any age, obviously.
Frondell turned 18 on 7 May. He apparently sustained significant knee injuries previously, and then underwent knee surgery at age 17.
That is a flag. I doubt he will be available after selection seven. If he falls past the Bruins pick, perhaps they can select him with their second pick.
Depending on how the board shakes out, I would not select Frondell at #7.