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Well, if you are talking about 5 years down the line the defenseman who is the second best defenseman , then yes I agree.

If you mean whoever is the second defenseman drafted , then no guarantees
I mean the first thing. But id say that im more confident the 2nd best defensemen is 1 of 3 players and the 2nd best forward is 1 of 10 players. And a few of those 10 will be bad and im not sure any of those 3 defenders will be truly bad. I think they might all be pretty firmly nhl players
 
What style is that? What is the basis for that style? To me, it's a reputation that doesn't exist in reality. It's like those who think the Bruins are a big, slow defensively sound team no matter what the makeup of the roster is. Or who's behind the bench (looking at you Dave Lewis). And the Habs will always be fast, soft, and skilled...

There is no unique style to the Q. Our local team is run by a someone who spent 10 years head coaching in the OHL, some time in the USHL, and a few years as an assistant in the NHL. He's been here for 10 years. He didn't have to adopt a new "style" to be successful. When it comes to Desnoyers and Moncton, Gardiner MacDougall isn't instilling a "Q style" in his game.

We're at the point where they all mimic one another. Following all the latest trends and tactics. Whether it be analytics, nutrition, training etc. There is no regional pockets that play a completely different brand of hockey IMO. That is something of the past when things weren't nearly as accessible. When coaching/systems weren't as universal. A time when the "Q" was probably 99% French speaking Quebecers. Before the expansion into Atlantic Canada.

I don't have the numbers, but I'd be willing to bet the OHL has been more wide open high scoring the past few years. If not, its close.

Desnoyers falling into their lap would be wonderful.
Great post, there should never be stereotypes when they are not supported by numbers. I guess I can't speak to this with authority as I don't keep up with the minors much now. I will say that the Q being wide open was a thing through about the mid 90s. Then i imagine, as you say, coaching homogenized the junior leagues.

i used to like when the Bruins drafted from the Q because the open style helped players work on their skating and other skills.
 
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The big problem is the Bruins should not give up a future 1st of their own right now. The Florida and Toronto picks are fine to deal but the Bruins own firsts should be untouchable until they prove this isn't an extended swoon. You simply cannot guarantee Hampus and McAvoy will play full seasons, or Swayman won't suck, and the team is absolutely one David Pastrnak injury away from a death spiral of a season.
The only reason to get precious about a Bruins 2027 for example is if you think and bet they are not improving over the next two years from where they are now. They could easily have 15th pick next year, and Leafs at 17. If you don’t have confidence in the D or Sway then nobody can help your sentiment but the evidence of the future. Offer sheet ability is the other great reason to keep own picks.

That said, I’d be weary of banking on the leafs or panthers being that great in the coming years. The Leafs are about to lose a big piece (or two) of their core for nothing. Panthers might be no different. If they choose to re-tool faster than Sweeney did with the Bruins, you’re looking at improved standings for Boston by default of completion, and the reverse for the former. Picks can be protected too, just like the 2026 from the leafs is. Players are more precious than picks imo. I’d rather have a balance of giving up firsts for top 6 players that are guaranteed and that management targets for team building rather than fearing trading 1sts that nobody can project success with certainty. We have 5 1sts in the next 3 drafts currently, and can still acquire more. I say make this pick for the most bonafide forward, and know they will be on an ELC in a few years as you use half of the other futures at a minimum to beef up your roster for them if a short rebuild is your motif.
 
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Just did a deep dive on brady martin (watched 3 youtube videos). My scouting report: If vatrano could set up goals almost as well as he finshed goals.

Whoever that guy is. Thats who i see as a ceiling. Vatrano..but he can pass too! Top 6 ceiling.
 
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Having more knowledge on Desnoyers than any other prospect. Simply have watched more of his game and read more on him. If he was available at 7 the Bruins should certainly take him . I am afraid he will be gone before that, but after the first 2 ,the draft could go in many different directions. Seldom would I say this about any prospect , but the odds of Desnoyers having a solid 12 to 15 year NHL career are very high IMO . Not ready to give up hope on him being a Bruin.
 
Not sure if it was already in here, but here is the order in this year's edition of the Hockey News Draft Preview.
1. Schaefer
2. Misa
3. Martone
4. Hagens
5. Frondell
6. Desnoyer
7. Eklund
8. McQueen
9. Aitcheson
10. Smith
11..O"Brian
12. Martin

Interesting they have both O'Brian and Martin outside the top 10. Eklund slotted for our pick. McQueen right behind him.
 
Not sure if it was already in here, but here is the order in this year's edition of the Hockey News Draft Preview.
1. Schaefer
2. Misa
3. Martone
4. Hagens
5. Frondell
6. Desnoyer
7. Eklund
8. McQueen
9. Aitcheson
10. Smith
11..O"Brian
12. Martin

Interesting they have both O'Brian and Martin outside the top 10. Eklund slotted for our pick. McQueen right behind him.
It won't go like that book it.
 
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Having more knowledge on Desnoyers than any other prospect. Simply have watched more of his game and read more on him. If he was available at 7 the Bruins should certainly take him . I am afraid he will be gone before that, but after the first 2 ,the draft could go in many different directions. Seldom would I say this about any prospect , but the odds of Desnoyers having a solid 12 to 15 year NHL career are very high IMO . Not ready to give up hope on him being a Bruin.
They said last night he had an injury, and they said what I said that he hadn't done much the first two games. They further said that he had gone 9 games without a goal.

He looked good last night; he had a goal and an assist, both on the PP, and he nearly scored at even strength just before London got the winner. Good skater, excellent passer, good shot; competes hard, but I thought he was knocked off the puck too easily last night. He needs to get stronger. He's not a soft player, he is a finesse player. Excellent on the PP from the left wing half boards.

Loke Johansson is an excellent pick for da Broons in the 6th round. Not saying that he'll be an NHLer or even an AHLer for certain, but he looked very good in the 3 games I watched. Excellent size, skates well, defends very well.
 
I think there is 0 chance cam neely or sweeney trades #7 for a 5-9 player.

2016- frederic-BIG (borderline bust)
2017- vaakananien-bIG (asset managed)
2019- beecher- BIG (bust)
2020- lohrei- HUGE (maybe not a bust!)
2021- (we hear you we need speed and skill size isnt everything) lysell- small (BUST! NEVER AGAIN WITH SMALL, ALWAYS MUST GO BIG)
2024- letourneau- GIANT (i mean..its too early to say but..)

Clearly they want their team to be big ideally. Not small. Just because everyone they take usually doesnt work doesnt mean they dont have an idea for what they want. And it isnt 5-9
Another way to look at those picks...

2016- frederic- good skater (hit)
2017- vaakananien-great skater (hit)
2019- beecher- great skater (hit)
2020- lohrei- skilled (hit)
2021- lysell- skilled and great skater (was on track but had a setback last yr)
2022- poitras- skilled (hit)
2023- no 1st or 2nd
2024- letourneau- skilled and great skater (too early)
 
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“ Martin employs an intimidating physical presence to put his adversaries off-balance, strip them of possession, and punish them for having HIS puck- he's a force, with an ultra-competitive nature. There is no such thing as a bodycheck that he didn't finish, and many of the hits he throws are of the devastating, hard-and-heavy variety, making a huge impact on the game- he dominates down-low and along the boards, and launches himself into puck-battles. He is violent and resolute on the forecheck, hunting down puck-carriers like a heat-seeking missile to cause turnovers and uncontrolled play- opposing players look over their shoulders when he's on the ice.”

From this article
The last guy we heard someone describe as “violent” ended his season in the ECHL and went minus 3 in 7 games. I can’t begin to list the amount of players I’ve seen described as “having a mean streak” “aggressive” “plays the body”…..bullshit. They make pro and you’d swear they were the second coming of Mahatma Gandhi.

I would LOVE a big, mean, dirty player that could also contribute offensively, but that’s rarer than a hen’s tooth. Let’s get a guy that we’re confident can put up some points and leave the fantasy for another time.
 
I mean the first thing. But id say that im more confident the 2nd best defensemen is 1 of 3 players and the 2nd best forward is 1 of 10 players. And a few of those 10 will be bad and im not sure any of those 3 defenders will be truly bad. I think they might all be pretty firmly nhl players

Who do you have as your top 3 defenders, I see various people list Mrtka, Smith, Aitcheson all listed as 2 in some mocks. And i know some people like Hensler a lot
 
I think there is 0 chance cam neely or sweeney trades #7 for a 5-9 player.

2016- frederic-BIG (borderline bust)
2017- vaakananien-bIG (asset managed)
2019- beecher- BIG (bust)
2020- lohrei- HUGE (maybe not a bust!)
2021- (we hear you we need speed and skill size isnt everything) lysell- small (BUST! NEVER AGAIN WITH SMALL, ALWAYS MUST GO BIG)
2024- letourneau- GIANT (i mean..its too early to say but..)

Clearly they want their team to be big ideally. Not small. Just because everyone they take usually doesnt work doesnt mean they dont have an idea for what they want. And it isnt 5-9
I watched too many Rangers games this year with sick pops and I'll tell you Vaak was a ray of sunshine for that crappy team. He earned a nice little extendion with them, I was pretty impressed after not seeing him basically at all on Anaheim due to the late starts and me being old and tired
 
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I agree with your post . My two concerns :

Is he (Martin) going to be able to play this way in the NHL against men ?

Will his playing style at his size result in him being frequently injured ?
valid question but I worry less about Martin who is listed as 6 ft , 178 lbs already, likely able to pack a few more lbs onto that frame and not slow down so I think he`ll be ok
 
Just to let you both know, i would be fine with Mrtka at 7. He does not seem to have the skill for a slapper but huge, fast right handed d are tough to find.
Same as Martin I’d be on board but these aren’t the guys in my top 7. I also wonder about this Atchieson kid that had some hype for a bit. I’ve not seen much talk about him around here but it looks like his skill is elite.
 
Funny how people say « all pick is a risk » yes for sure but as a risk i prefer take the one with 50% chance than the one with 5% ))))
No way you can explain a second round projection choice in early first.
Can one time every 10 years sweeny choose a player projected at the order he choose ???? Just one time every 10 years please ???
 
Funny how people say « all pick is a risk » yes for sure but as a risk i prefer take the one with 50% chance than the one with 5% ))))
No way you can explain a second round projection choice in early first.
Can one time every 10 years sweeny choose a player projected at the order he choose ???? Just one time every 10 years please ???
Huh?
 

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