Speculation: 2025-26 Ducks Forwards (Overview)

[CrazyDuck4u]

Im gonna laugh when Q keeps Z at wing and the board has a meltdown

I wont laught. I'm already expecting that to happen lol

 

[DavidBL]

If we bridge him, he’ll cost a whole lot more, me thinks.

I'd rather give him an 8 year deal at 25 then at 28

 

[Hockey Duckie]

All of our forward youths improved their offense after the 4 Nations break. What is surprising is they also improved their +/- rating, which scoring more does help improve.

The thing with McTavish is he's usually playing 3C and 3C minutes. That makes his production impressive because he's always reviving a LW that gets sent to his line like Cutter or Zegras.

 

[TheDarkWingThatDucks]

All of our forward youths improved their offense after the 4 Nations break. What is surprising is they also improved their +/- rating, which scoring more does help improve.

The thing with McTavish is he's usually playing 3C and 3C minutes. That makes his production impressive because he's always reviving a LW that gets sent to his line like Cutter or Zegras.

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I think you should add time on ice to this.

Pre 4 nations / post 4 nations / season

Leo - 16.04 16.31. 16.14
McT - 16.31. 17.29. 16.53
Cutter - 14.17. 13.53. 14.09
Zegras - 17.02. 17.03. 17.02
Sam - 11.21. 13.10. 12.29

If I did math right, which is highly likely I didn’t.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

I think you should add time on ice to this.

Pre 4 nations / post 4 nations / season

Leo - 16.04 16.31. 16.14
McT - 16.31. 17.29. 16.53
Cutter - 14.17. 13.53. 14.09
Zegras - 17.02. 17.03. 17.02
Sam - 11.21. 13.10. 12.29

If I did math right, which is highly likely I didn’t.

If you use Hockey-Reference, you can highlight the area and the pop-up window will give you all the stats. Just use 60 seconds x ATOI decimal number to figure out the seconds for the average TOI. Example: 15.9 is 15 minutes and 9/10. 60 sec x 0.9 = 54 seconds. Thus 15.9 is translated as 15:54 TOI. The TOI doesn't do the breakdown of ES TOI, PP TOI, PK TOI, or 6v5 TOI.

Leo's ATOI
Pre 4N: 15.9 or (15:54)
Post 4N: 16.8 (or 16:48)

Mac's ATOI
Pre 4N: 16.4 or (16:24)
Post 4N: 17.7 (or 17:42)

We should add the quality of talent around them. Leo is often surrounded by better talent than Mac. Mac helped to bring up Cutter's play and then Cutter gets promoted once Cutter started getting hot. And then Mac had to revive Zegras as well. Hell, Mac was brought up to Leo's line to help jumpstart Leo. Colangelo was a 4th liner for most of the pre 4N, but a 3rd liner post 4N and sometimes Lundy centering him.

 

[anezthes]

I'd rather give him an 8 year deal at 25 then at 28

How’d you end up at 28? He’s 22 now — eight years puts him at 30. We all know nothing good happens after 30… or is it 40? I forget.

 

[DavidBL]

How’d you end up at 28? He’s 22 now — eight years puts him at 30. We all know nothing good happens after 30… or is it 40? I forget.

After 30 is typical decline but still young enough guys are asking for big term still. 28 is the average ufa age. I still prefer 25 vs 30. At 25-33 his next contrwct after that would likely be shorter and more representative of his decline where as resigning again at 28-30 you're looking prime age production numbers still.

 

[TheDarkWingThatDucks]

If you use Hockey-Reference, you can highlight the area and the pop-up window will give you all the stats. Just use 60 seconds x ATOI decimal number to figure out the seconds for the average TOI. Example: 15.9 is 15 minutes and 9/10. 60 sec x 0.9 = 54 seconds. Thus 15.9 is translated as 15:54 TOI. The TOI doesn't do the breakdown of ES TOI, PP TOI, PK TOI, or 6v5 TOI.

Leo's ATOI
Pre 4N: 15.9 or (15:54)
Post 4N: 16.8 (or 16:48)

Mac's ATOI
Pre 4N: 16.4 or (16:24)
Post 4N: 17.7 (or 17:42)

We should add the quality of talent around them. Leo is often surrounded by better talent than Mac. Mac helped to bring up Cutter's play and then Cutter gets promoted once Cutter started getting hot. And then Mac had to revive Zegras as well. Hell, Mac was brought up to Leo's line to help jumpstart Leo. Colangelo was a 4th liner for most of the pre 4N, but a 3rd liner post 4N and sometimes Lundy centering him.

Ahhh thank you!!! I realized the error of my way math wise once I got to cutter, I was like hey ? You can’t just add up these numbers, they equal 100 not 60 ….. then just tried multiply by .60 at some point to offshoot my stupidity. But I was already pot committed and not going to stop. I also added up every f***ing number because I forgot (you e told me this before) that you can pick you games on hockey reference and it does all the work for you. I’ll just say it was late and I was tired.

Also I just checked Strome was playing 16:10 aToi (thank you again that was so easy haha) so really McT after the 4 nations was getting the most minutes out of any center.

Quality of teammates definitely matters, Just Zegras missed a lot of time pre 4 nations, Colangelo was on the gulls most of pre 4 nations (besides terry and his child situation and the terrible roadtrip, plus another short stint). Doesn’t lead to having a very good top 9 for Leo or McT …. With Terry / Strome / Vats stapled to a line.