Speculation: 2025-2026 Offseason Thread 4 - all these trades and all we got was this lousy thread!

[Flat Ronnie]

I'd still pay for ROR if he'd be willing to leave. And his contract is so good we could still make another move or two.

Are we going to start fixating on a player thats had no indication of being available?

 

[HagelsBagels25]

We are cooked and it’s two more years of first round exits then the big sell off. Only way that doesn’t happen is if somehow out of nowhere like our 3 best prospects all become top 6 level plus we find a dman plus Vasy stays decent plus plus.

It’s so over. Rebuild time, get out Hagel you can still win somewhere.

 

[Stammertime91]

Day of 2 everybody's favorite little clown saying this;

If Florida gets Hellebuyck I am going to LOSE my f***ing mind

 

[Stammertime91]

Even though Tuch went for a lot, those are a couple solid moves for Washington. Landing top six forwards aren't easy and Washington just landed two in like a 48hr time frame. Solid for them.

 

[HoseEmDown]

So....are people finally coming around to where me and Sky have been at for a while? Like you all see this shit right? Basically make us a playoff team for the short term and hope we get lucky or start to try to move players and start the re-tool/rebuild.

We are more than a playoff team. Problem is Vasilevskiy and Kucherov haven't been good enough playoff time. Let alone others like Point, Cirelli and this year Hedman who also didn't show. If you cant get even average goaltending you aint gonna win. If your top 3 player in the league doesn't score any goals, you ain't gonna win. You can blame BriseBois for things but playoff failure isnt on him, it's on the players and then Cooper.

 

[aylib]

Marchment, Johnston, Duhaime. Sign them, JBB

 

[Todd1a]

Marchment, Johnston, Duhaime. Sign them, JBB

Carlson for 10 AAV for two years watch lol

 

[aylib]

Carlson for 10 AAV for two years watch lol

I’d rather have Burns

 

[RSchmitz]

We're in a bad spot with the market, but not completely cooked yet.

If we don't have an extension to announce for Kucherov at 12:01 pm on July 1st, we are cooked though

 

[DFC]

Are we going to start fixating on a player thats had no indication of being available?

I'm not. It's just, if we ate making a wish list, that player would make sense for us.

 

[Stammertime91]

Has JBB circled back to re-signing Bjorkstrand yet? Maybe hes checking the value of Luke Evangelista and trying to acquire him via trade. Lest we forget, we are two middle six options away from contending.

 

[JTBF81]

Im definitely now in the camp of retool/rebuild if we're not adding high end, impact players. It doesn't seem like we are. I'm not in favor of adding more "depth" like JTBF is mentioning above. I think forward depth and Carlson are wastes of time at this point. Just start cutting bait now. The teams around us are adding TOP END talent.

There is ZERO indication that either Point or Hedman will/can produce at the level we need them to in order for us to go on a run. When we Have most of our team as untradeable, and no 1st round picks, we're left with little choices on the trade market.

We might just be un a position to patch a couple holes and sell jerseys for the next year or two.

Improving the middle 6 with better depth and/or having a couple of younger guys take a step is certainly a path. Carolina just won a cup with not so much a roster with any real superstars, but a very well rounded F group. Tampa already has the big name players who are going nowhere, so yes, adding better pieces around them is a way to go. JBB was never paying these exorbitant aav numbers or trade prices, but it doesn't mean that players who can definitely help, both at F and D, aren't available via trade or ufa. He may also still make a splash move, as it's still a week until ufa. Either way, the team isn't at a point where it appears anyone in leadership feels some massive re-tool or re-build is imminent.

 

[JTBF81]

Marchment, Johnston, Duhaime. Sign them, JBB

Both Marchment and Duhaime seem interesting, one as a top 6/middle 6 type, and Duhaime for the bottom 6. Another Jacket, Jenner, could be an option for a C add as well, although I'd put him below a few other options.

 

[Flat Ronnie]

Either way, the team isn't at a point where it appears anyone in leadership feels some massive re-tool or re-build is imminent.

You dont know this. They could very well think that. We just might have our hands tied with all the NMCs. They also might be extremely hesitant to sign long term deals at this point - opting for high AAV, short term like Carlson.

I'm not buying the Carolina comparison. They're a bit younger than us and their guys were still extremely hungry for their first cup. Way different situation than guys like Kuch, Point, Hedman, McD, etc.

 

[Antiramie]

Lol at you dinguses saying Tuch was a lock to Tampa.

You'll get 3 bottom 6 forwards and you'll like it!

 

[Flat Ronnie]

We're saved...

 

[Stammertime91]

Improving the middle 6 with better depth and/or having a couple of younger guys take a step is certainly a path.

Lmao.

"Dear ChatGpt, how many different ways can i say grab two middle sixers?"

We're saved...

All LHD + Cernak lol.

 

[Stammertime91]

I swear to God that guy is a chat bot

 

[atlanticobserver]

We're saved...

I’m sure everyone will react reasonably

 

[Stammertime91]

Okay so

Evangelista - Cirelli - Kucherov
Guentzel - Point - Groshev
Hagel - McDavid - Brazeau
Girgensons - Gourde - Holmberg
Bjorkstrand/James

Werenski - Lilleberg
Hedman - Crozier
McD - Cernak
Moser

 

[Stelio Kontos]

We are more than a playoff team. Problem is Vasilevskiy and Kucherov haven't been good enough playoff time. Let alone others like Point, Cirelli and this year Hedman who also didn't show. If you cant get even average goaltending you aint gonna win. If your top 3 player in the league doesn't score any goals, you ain't gonna win. You can blame BriseBois for things but playoff failure isnt on him, it's on the players and then Cooper.

LMAO last 4 years say otherwise.. going to the Death against the Habs who got demolished in the ECF.

The only thing this team is is riding its reputation from 5 years ago and regular season metrics.

 

[DistantThunderRep]

We're saved...

Everyone and their momma knows that he will end up in either Vegas or Florida and then @HagelsBagels25 will promise again that he's done with posting and fail at following through, again...and again.

 

[atlanticobserver]

Everyone and their momma knows that he will end up in either Vegas or Florida and then @HagelsBagels25 will promise again that he's done with posting and fail at following through, again...and again.

Here’s hoping Guentzel was really nice to him in Milan

 

[JTBF81]

You dont know this. They could very well think that. We just might have our hands tied with all the NMCs. They also might be extremely hesitant to sign long term deals at this point - opting for high AAV, short term like Carlson.

I'm not buying the Carolina comparison. They're a bit younger than us and their guys were still extremely hungry for their first cup. Way different situation than guys like Kuch, Point, Hedman, McD, etc.

Regardless of a couple of rough playoff series, the improvement this year was very clear. You don't finish top 4 in both offense and defense and have your management then say, yep, blow it up because game 7 was a fluke loss.

 

[CupsOverCash]

We're saved...

I like him a lot but doesn't really make sense with having moser, hedman and mcdonagh.