Speculation: 2025-2026 Offseason Thread 3 -subtitle traded for a 5th round pick

[Major4Boarding]

No clue why Nashville is adding. They should be stripping down from the studs. They’re nowhere near being serious contenders and have some valuable trade pieces that could net some big returns that could make a rebuild pretty quick.

Unless the plan is to try and flip him for more at the deadline.

I think the subtractions will come after a few additions.



So Magnus ends up back in Denver. Weird twist

 

[atlanticobserver]

I get the vibes that at least one of Lilleberg/Crozier/Carlile are not going to be on the team next year. Couldn't even get them all regular ice time with all the injuries last year. Someone is bound to toss up a third or another prospect of some sort in return. Or could be part of a larger package

 

[Major4Boarding]

I get the vibes that at least one of Lilleberg/Crozier/Carlile are not going to be on the team next year. Couldn't even get them all regular ice time with all the injuries last year. Someone is bound to toss up a third or another prospect of some sort in return. Or could be part of a larger package

Carlile's a Group 6 UFA so if he's not re-signed, and Raddysh heads out elsewhere, I don't see Lilleberg or Crozier going anywhere as you're at 6 Rostered D right there. Unless there's a significnt upgrade on D forthcoming. Which brings it back to the Why-let-Raddysh-go crowd

 

[bov]

If Raddysh is set on hitting the market I have to imagine a team would be willing to trade something for his rights to get the extra year, if that's still a thing.

 

[Five Alarm Fire]

Did I miss something on Raddysh?

 

[JTBF81]

Did I miss something on Raddysh?

Nah, nothing concrete has been reported. One Toronto media person said Tampa's.offer was 5x5.75, so despite the report being dubious at best, now it's generating new Raddysh speculation

 

[RSchmitz]

I don't even know if he's that great defensively, but him and Moser together as a pairing just works. Even if the PP magic fades, that's a great defensive pair. I feel like it's probably worth it to see it play out, but who knows if JBB agrees.

Do you remember when Andrew Zyuzin and Paul Mara seemed to work too, until it didn’t? Remember when we were worried about Stralman leaving? Chemistry is great but it isn’t irreplaceable

 

[Todd1a]

Did I miss something on Raddysh?

Yes if JBB doesn’t increase his 5.75 AAV offer he won’t be playing here

 

[Zwui21]

If Raddysh is set on hitting the market I have to imagine a team would be willing to trade something for his rights to get the extra year, if that's still a thing.

Can't do that anymore, the extra year can be given if you trade for a player by the TDL I think.
But still, if we don't plan on re-signing him I could see a team giving us a 3rd to get his rights at the draft and work a deal with him before he hits UFA (just like we did for Guentzel)

 

[PucksInTooDeep]

Can't do that anymore, the extra year can be given if you trade for a player by the TDL I think.
But still, if we don't plan on re-signing him I could see a team giving us a 3rd to get his rights at the draft and work a deal with him before he hits UFA (just like we did for Guentzel)

You can still do sign and trades, Marner did one last year.

 

[Stammertime91]

We are so out of draft picks we cant even afford a clever thread title for this one.

 

[Bozo Nicholson]

I get the vibes that at least one of Lilleberg/Crozier/Carlile are not going to be on the team next year. Couldn't even get them all regular ice time with all the injuries last year. Someone is bound to toss up a third or another prospect of some sort in return. Or could be part of a larger package

They will surely be missed here aboard the Titanic!

 

[RSchmitz]

You can still do sign and trades, Marner did one last year.

I wonder if the league considers this a loophole

 

[atlanticobserver]

They will surely be missed here aboard the Titanic!

I wouldn't give us Titanic status yet because even if we stink we can probably trade away lots of good players for lots of assets. But yes

 

[Felonious Python]

I wonder if the league considers this a loophole

The league seems most concerned about an absolute worst case scenario. Maybe there could be some shenanigans with salary retention, but it'd be on the lower end for a contract that length.

50% retention is well known, but I don't know if there's a minimum. Could a team sign-and-trade, but retain like $1.5m a year for 8 years while they retool? Maybe. They'd need good enough players to deserve a max length deal.

I'd probably want draft picks over the length of the contract, but teams don't trade that far out. You're trading for kids still in elementary school.

 

[The Gongshow]

It will be us two years 9.5 AAV

Don't you put that evil on me, Ricky Bobby!

 

[atlanticobserver]

Looks like someone is building a new house in Ontario

 

[Doctor Congo]

Looks like someone is building a new house in Ontario

It's actually crazy we live in a world where we can just snoop people's private dealings like this.

Idk. I'm just waiting for the JBB "Aw geez we really tried" speech he's given for all the other dudes he let walk away

 

[Doctor Congo]

And I am firmly under the impression that if JBB wanted the Raddysh deal done, he'd have gotten it done by now. This is the dude who spent a whole damn draft class on Tanner Jeannot. If he wants to get something done, he gets it done. And he doesn't care if he cuts his own hand off to do it. And it's not like we don't have cap space.


Notice how the Hedman deal came together seamlessly without a damn word while the whole time Stamkos was a fiasco.

 

[The Gongshow]

And I am firmly under the impression that if JBB wanted the Raddysh deal done, he'd have gotten it done by now. This is the dude who spent a whole damn draft class on Tanner Jeannot. If he wants to get something done, he gets it done. And he doesn't care if he cuts his own hand off to do it. And it's not like we don't have cap space.

Raddysh is also the first domino that needs to fall before he can either move on or spend the remaining cap. This should have been done by now, or we should be getting the "Raddysh will explore FA" tweet from an insider today/tomorrow

 

[Doctor Congo]

Raddysh is also the first domino that needs to fall before he can either move on or spend the remaining cap. This should have been done by now, or we should be getting the "Raddysh will explore FA" tweet from an insider today/tomorrow

I got the edit in late but I'll say it here. Notice how signing Hedman came with absolutely zero issues. But Stamkos? Total fiasco from start to finish. I've basically given up hope in ever seeing Raddysh again.

 

[atlanticobserver]

I got the edit in late but I'll say it here. Notice how signing Hedman came with absolutely zero issues. But Stamkos? Total fiasco from start to finish. I've basically given up hope in ever seeing Raddysh again.

Unfortunately, I think you're right. We know Brisebois was evaluating this situation all year. We know there aren't really any other decisions to be made for 26-27 among the players we currently have on the roster. And you're pretty spot on about Brisebois getting deals done when he really wants a guy. I will say, this is probably a much more unique set of negotiations considering the vast majority of the players JBB has extended have been easier to project and pay, like the Hagels, Cernaks, Cirellis, Sergachevs of the world. This is a really risky contract, and I could imagine this being more of a back-and-forth.

 

[SaucerpassfromKuch]

I don't know who it will be running the PP1 quarterback but I damn sure hope it's not Hedman because he has looked cooked for a while offensively. I'm sure he can still be serviceable top 4D.

So is it D'astous turn next year?

 

[Doctor Congo]

Plot twist: we're gonna sign Ovechkin and be a 2nd round exit instead

 

[atlanticobserver]

I don't know who it will be running the PP1 quarterback but I damn sure hope it's not Hedman because he has looked cooked for a while offensively. I'm sure he can still be serviceable top 4D.

So is it D'astous turn next year?

John Carlson would be great. Better puck mover than Raddysh, can rip it pretty good as well. 60 points last year on 2 different teams, 14 goals. Also probably doesn't need a really long term deal which is convenient for a temporary solution. Not sure about how he would do at 5v5 but you could shelter him with D'Astous and put Moser and Hedman back together maybe? Or run him with Moser and see how it clicks.

In house? It's probably Hedman. He had a bad elbow last year that needed surgery, so I think his ability to at least QB the power play should be better next year. D'Astous would be my second choice. Probably not Moser, but I wouldn't be totally averse to giving him a shot and seeing what he can unlock. I really don't mind his shot and he passes the puck well enough.