OT: 2024 Washington Commanders thread: change we can believe in!

[kicksavedave]

No jail time = big disappointment. Daddy's money saved his ass again.

 

[ynotcaps]

I mean, lets be reality, there were a few seasons when they batted .000 on personnel. It brings up a good question, what is a reasonable expectation for a great FO to hit on? .750 overall (draft and FA). 500? We all know that not every draft pick will make it, not everyone will become a stud starter, some are destined to be mediocre starters or backups, journeymen types. But what is a really good hit rate for a Super Bowl hopeful FO to actually hit on? Obviously as well the expectations for a 1st or 2nd are different than a 7th or UDFA.

Would take more energy than I have these days to cycle through the Chiefs, Ravens and Eagles drafts/transactions over 10 years to compare them to say, Ron Rivera's but it would be entertaining to see the results.

Some outlet did that very thing a year or so ago, and it was not remotely entertaining to see the results still under Ron at the time, so it was depressingly hopeless reality, not 'wow, shit" rearview-mirror stuff.

Might have been SF in place of one of PHI or BAL. Will see if I can find it, but set your expectation low -- like, Ron Rivera-draft low...

No jail time = big disappointment. Daddy's money saved his ass again.

huh. Wonder if he's been able to find a job yet.

 

[ynotcaps]

Oh, shit. Wait. I think I did comparison like a year or two ago. Bottom line, KC, SF and BAL were all much better than us.

Jeezus, getting old sucks.

 

[Chokingdogs]

No jail time = big disappointment. Daddy's money saved his ass again.

While that particular behavior, and all his prior transgressions, certainly warranted slammer time in the immediacy…

5 years on probation is a LONG time. He strikes me as the when, not if, another event takes place kind of person.

Not knowing the details of the probation makes for speculation, but I have to believe there’s quite a bit in there that, being done, would be considered a violation.

 

[g00n]

While that particular behavior, and all his prior transgressions, certainly warranted slammer time in the immediacy…

5 years on probation is a LONG time. He strikes me as the when, not if, another event takes place kind of person.

Not knowing the details of the probation makes for speculation, but I have to believe there’s quite a bit in there that, being done, would be considered a violation.

If he's ordered to attend "treatment programs" he's likely going to AA/NA and counseling and submitting to testing and is either going to get his shit together in 5yrs or fail a test and end up in the pokey.

 

[g00n]

Rivera namedropping Belichick to make his descent seem "cool"

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Rivera the coach is a fraud. He’s just trying to get any job at this point.

 

[Ovechkins Wodka]

JD doing a tour of super bowl media today. To many clips to post.
I wouldnt want to be at the SB after losing the NFC champ game. That must sting seeing all the Eagles trash

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Commanders brass had ‘screaming match’ on draft day over controversial 1st rounder who they cut — Sporting News

The Washington Commanders had an unprecedented turnaround in 2024, but there were some bizarre football decisions before the new regime took over. According to one insider, there was a heated argument with the decision to draft Emmanuel Forbes in the first round.

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“I don’t want to give away state secrets but during the Ron era there was real dissension over some of the philosophical decision as it related to size,” Finlay said.. “The easiest thing to point to, and I know there was a screaming match on draft day, about the Forbes decision when Gonzalez was there. They were like yo, this dude has prototype size, speed, and every measurable you have. And you look at a lot of the decisions in the Ron era, and they were not scared of what you would want with size and speed.’

 

[ynotcaps]

Commanders brass had ‘screaming match’ on draft day over controversial 1st rounder who they cut — Sporting News

The Washington Commanders had an unprecedented turnaround in 2024, but there were some bizarre football decisions before the new regime took over. According to one insider, there was a heated argument with the decision to draft Emmanuel Forbes in the first round.

apple.news

“I don’t want to give away state secrets but during the Ron era there was real dissension over some of the philosophical decision as it related to size,” Finlay said.. “The easiest thing to point to, and I know there was a screaming match on draft day, about the Forbes decision when Gonzalez was there. They were like yo, this dude has prototype size, speed, and every measurable you have. And you look at a lot of the decisions in the Ron era, and they were not scared of what you would want with size and speed.’

Sean Labar needs to do his research. Forbes was not 180 lbs when we drafted him -- his measured weight was 166, and that was probably after his training team held him down and shoved cheeseburgers down his gullet until he was on the verge of exploding.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Sean Labar needs to do his research. Forbes was not 180 lbs when we drafted him -- his measured weight was 166, and that was probably after his training team held him down and shoved cheeseburgers down his gullet until he was on the verge of exploding.

Yep, but it just makes the point look even worse for Rivera…

Actually after digging more, I saw it reported that he was 166 at the combine, at Pro day he was 170. Who knows on Draft Day? Probably all inflated either way…