Blue Jays GDT: 2024 v6 | Fri, Sept 13 | vs StL | 7pm ET/4pm PT | TBA vs TBA Ohtanis Makes History

[MK78]

I dunno about Springer. This is the 2nd year that he's been fully healthy, and he's been bad offensively, this year worse than previous.

I just dont know if he can be league average again. I think if he keeps playing good RF defense, which he has, i'm fine with it just as long as he's down the lineup.

 

[aingefan]

One reason to be optimistic: The Tigers only had one player with an OPS over .735 this season (*minimum 90 games played), and they are in the playoffs. Carpenter was good for them but only played half the season.

K.C. only had four players with an OPS of at least .743, and their second, third, and fourth best hitters had OPSs of .743, .760, and .786.

This shows that offense is down league-wide, and just landing one big bat to pair with Vlad could help the Jays get back to the playoffs quickly.

We also have some big bounce-back candidates in Bichette, Springer, Kirk, etc., and Horwitz looks promising, all being .750 OPS+ candidates.

League average OPS was ~700.
It’s not unreasonable to think that the Jays will get that from 7 positions if they add a bat, and possible they field a full lineup over that mark.

 

[dredeye]

Mattingly has to be next.

He really can’t skirt being removed from this team. I don’t know how they could justify him remaining with the team.

 

[dredeye]

Firing a guy two years too late isn't really any action and the fact that Shapiro and Atkins are doing the season ending presser means both are getting out unscathed.

Toronto sports, man, they really hate making the changes that are necessary in a front office, don't they?

Last year of Shapiro contract and two left on Atkins. They will let them walk this team into potential ruin. Do we want desperate gm and president in charge when you have Bo, Vlad, Gausman and Basset on the final year of their deals? They all walk together and we are left with potentially a couple comp picks. It’s setting up to look real ugly after this season. I’d prefer at least a new gm in place to start planning for it

I dunno about Springer. This is the 2nd year that he's been fully healthy, and he's been bad offensively, this year worse than previous.

I just dont know if he can be league average again. I think if he keeps playing good RF defense, which he has, i'm fine with it just as long as he's down the lineup.

You need to get use to Springer being an anchor at this point.

 

[Nineteen67]

How in the actual f*** can Rogers justify bringing Shapiro and Atkins back?

I guess it’s because they have a year left on their contract? Maybe they get lucky and Shapiro moves on.

 

[canucksfan]

How in the actual f*** can Rogers justify bringing Shapiro and Atkins back?

Prior to this shitty season, the team has made the playoffs 3 out of 4 years. The other year they missed it by one game. Shapiro has been successful with the Dunedin complex and the renovations.

I can understand keeping Shapiro but I think Atkins should be gone. The team has got worse since 2022.

 

[dredeye]

Prior to this shitty season, the team has made the playoffs 3 out of 4 years. The other year they missed it by one game. Shapiro has been successful with the Dunedin complex and the renovations.

I can understand keeping Shapiro but I think Atkins should be gone. The team has got worse since 2022.

How many post season games did we win?

 

[canucksfan]

How many post season games did we win?

Zero. Baseball playoffs are weird. Last year, two wild-card teams went to the World Series. Look at the Orioles. Despite their talent, they haven't won yet.

I still think Atkins needs to go; however, I get why Shapiro is still here. The other problem is who is going to replace him. There is always a chance they bring in someone worse.

 

[dredeye]

Zero. Baseball playoffs are weird. Last year, two wild-card teams went to the World Series. Look at the Orioles. Despite their talent, they haven't won yet.

I still think Atkins needs to go; however, I get why Shapiro is still here. The other problem is who is going to replace him. There is always a chance they bring in someone worse.

Of course there’s a chance they bring in Simone worse. That can never be a reason to sit on your hands though. My problem is Shapiro is he’s given Atkins way longer a leash than he should have. If he’s also meddling with baseball decisions far below his role that’s a huge problem for me. If he’s not he’s fine. Atkins needs to go.

 

[henryasteroidlionnet]

Zero. Baseball playoffs are weird. Last year, two wild-card teams went to the World Series. Look at the Orioles. Despite their talent, they haven't won yet.

I still think Atkins needs to go; however, I get why Shapiro is still here. The other problem is who is going to replace him. There is always a chance they bring in someone worse.

James Click.

 

[henryasteroidlionnet]

Of course there’s a chance they bring in Simone worse. That can never be a reason to sit on your hands though. My problem is Shapiro is he’s given Atkins way longer a leash than he should have. If he’s also meddling with baseball decisions far below his role that’s a huge problem for me. If he’s not he’s fine. Atkins needs to go.

Atkins and Shapiro are connected to the hip. Of course, he's meddling with baseball decisions. He's the president and CEO. You think Atkins is being given complete autonomy to do what he wants?